"Northwestern fans can be both heartened and disheartened by the loss to Minnesota just like how nineteenth-century resurrectionists were heartened when they pried a heart from a freshly-buried corpse and then disheartened it when they sold it to a disreputable anatomist."
Michigan leads for OT Eric Magnuson
it may have been lost in the hoopula of the goings-on at OSU
than the need to repost. Site Search function ftw.
Sorry. Just saw a new Rivals post and didn't think it had been stated we led. My bad.
Part of the big June that Tom VH hinted at?
Seems like a quality kid, too. With all the crap going down the last couple days, it's good to see a kid like this who truly loves the game and has some academic prowess v.--well, you know.
and a guy that we definately want considering the class is filling up
I don't know if I'm not hinting strong enough, or if you guys missed the Weekly Update.
I think the hint is there, but people have been really wrong on these things before, so best to err on the side of caution...
If I hint at something it usually means I know something. I'll tell you if I'm guessing or I'm not sure. Just for future use.
Gotcha. Still think BKFinest has forever doomed the board to being skeptical even with your hints...Rat bastard....
I'm not asking for specifics, but what is it -- other than personal characteristics -- that has made the current staff so successful on the recruiting trail? It is the switch to a more pro-style system on offense and defense, the good vibes around the Michigan program and a sense that the program is turning itself around, the improved facilities at Michigan, or some magical combination of all of the above? It seems like Hoke and Mattison and Funk and the rest of the staff are just doing amazing jobs. Are you surprised at how successful they have been?
With someone like Magnuson you have Coach Funk to thank. Funk has been recruiting him since he was a sophomore and they have an outstanding relationship.
Part of their success is the relationships they've built previously with players and high school coaches. Add that in to the fact that they're at a big time school like Michigan and they now have a great shot at the top level talent at the schools they've previously recruited and the kids that they've been recruiting.
It's tough to recruit top athletes to a place like San Diego State, but it doesn't mean you can't try and show what kind of person you are for the future. Mattison has been known as a great recruiter, and you combine that with his experience in the NFL and the fact that he has a National Championship ring with Florida, it's a pretty easy sell for him.
I'm surprised more with how fast they're getting kids to commit, and how they've gotten kids to change their timelines to pull the trigger. They've had a little luck and some help with the midwest being loaded, but they haven't whiffed on anyone yet.
Why do you think Hoke has been so much more successful than RR? Was it the Midwest relationships? The lack of a Mattison assistant with success in the NFL? Is it also the approach - going after so many highly rated players? Obviously it's a combination of everything, but it just seemed like RR was recruiting Michigan as if he was still at WV, while Hoke is recruiting like he's at the accomplished and historied university that Michigan is.
**this is in no way bashing rr, just curious as to why recruiting has changed so drastically this year.
The old staff stunk with HS coaches. I have family who coach at prominent, talent producing HS's. Their comment to me in March was...................... haven't seen UM in 3 years under RR but we have seen Michigan 3 times since Hoke took over.
Makes a good bit of difference when the kids see playing time and the national media isn't hammering that RR job is on the line for the last two years.
Hoke has a love for more than just football but for UM.
Tom VH said it pretty well. A number of factors are playing into the coaches hands right now, but the defining characteristic in their success at recruiting is their genuine personalities. They are affable, genuine guys who connect with kids and know what they're looking for so they can build the relationships early. Coach Hoke was recruiting Mike Martin when he was still at Ball State from the start and almost pulled him, interesting that he's coaching him in the end. The kids all say that the coaches just talk to them and ask them how they are, talk about family values, talk to them with their parents involved, and seperate themselves from the coaches touting scheme or trophies or starting time. They just make recruits feel comfortable, and they trust them. It's all the difference in the world when the coaches are the draw over the program instead of coaches just selling the program on its own.
your hints as a Sam Webb gut feeling
do we want STRONGER hints :P
My wife says I miss hints, too. Says it a lot actually.
I blame the Tress stuff. Went back and READ the update and said, "Ohhhhhhhh."
this is a double post. but it at least gives me a chance to get re-excited about this huge road grader.
OMG Really!!!! We must discuss!!
Kind of funny, people over on the 247 blue board are underestimating TomVH. They believe since one of the 247 guys thinks he will stay out west, that he is going to Oregon or Cal. One Cal poster refuses to believe Michigan is a real player. For your enjoyment.
"LOL at Michigan fans. Trying to tell Justin that Michigan leads when he just told you that he thought he'd stay out west."
I will tell you this, I'm 100% positive they're wrong on what they're saying. They can laugh all they want, 100% positive I know what Magnuson is thinking.
Tom, it almost seems like you're not being too subtle about whats going to happen on his visit. Am I in for some good news on the 10th?
for some reason that got me all fired up like a fight in high school
I am thankful for Tom!!
@Braylon Are you the one who is saying that he is a lock for MICHIGAN (June 10th) on 247? I have been reading that site and they do not like us, at all. They do not respect Tom very much on that board. :/
What's a not gay way to ask you to go camping with me?
Things are starting to get interesting. The coaches are pushing hard for Zach Banner, Jordan Diamond seems to favor Michigan, Erik Magnuson is a Michigan lean, and now you throw Kyle Kalis having buckeye misgivings into the mix? Would we take an extra OT and skip out on another position? On top of that we have Jaleel Johnson in the mix at DT, Ondre Pipkins leaning our way, Jarron Jones will visit and says he's up for grabs, the coaches are leaning heavily on Aziz Shittu, and now Sheldon Day is back in the game with Columbus in flames. Do we also take an extra DT and skip out on another position or take on the extra DE's in the mix? If we pass on a kid who was considering tUOS do they then go to ND or MSU? How big is this class going to get? I'm fired up about this. This is awesome.
I've been thinking about this too. Don't forget Stanford and Washington. I know we're supposed to take a QB every class, but with Morris already signed up and spots diminishing it'll be interesting to see what the coaches do.
Don't care if this topic was on before, it got tomVH to post 4 times.
Also I think "something to keep an eye on" is something to keep an eye out for. Amirite?
I downvoted the OP at first because it was a repost, but after TomVH replied so many times, I switched to an upvote.
Exactly what I was thinking. Very happy I posted this either way. Got some good info out of it regardless.
cancelled his ND OV for the USC game....