Michigan Leads All Schools With Most Talent In 2017 NFL Draft

Submitted by MichiganStan on

This story was just published by NFL.com writer Chad Reuter. Here is where he thinks they will get drafted:

Early rounds: EDGE Taco Charlton, CB Jourdan Lewis, S Jabrill Peppers, DE Chris Wormley
Middle rounds: TE Jake Butt (injury), WR Amara Darboh, OT Erik Magnuson, RB De'Veon Smith
Late rounds: OG Ben Braden, WR Jehu Chesson, LB Ben Gedeon, DT Ryan Glasgow, S Delano Hill, OG Kyle Kalis, CB Channing Stribling, S Dymonte Thomas

Alabama, LSU, Clemson and Ohio State rounded out the Top 5.

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Hard-Baughlls

January 18th, 2017 at 6:44 PM ^

and would have lost to NC State if not for a short missed FG....They went on to win the National Title if I recall correctly.

OSU lost to PSU in a flukiest of fluke game.

We got screwed against OSU.

Shit happens, upsets happen.  That's why it takes having a great team, great staff and luck to win a national title.

Luck this year...we had none...sucks, that's life.  3 losses by 5 points....sucks.

The Bama dynasty, despite having the most talent year in and year out, has lost to lesser teams like Auburn (the absurd kick 6 return), Ole Miss (twice), Texas AM when Manziel went nuts, and others.  

Point is to have the best team possible and best coached players every year, and then hope you get the breaks.  

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

January 18th, 2017 at 6:58 PM ^

We had a special teams unit that had a bunch of blocks.

Block the kick, make the tackle on the kickoff, don't fumble the ball on the kickoff, do something.

Its become a disturbing theme in the last two years of choking away wins.

I don't even count the 2015 Minnesota and Indiana debacles as clutch wins because those were embarassing Akron level performances. 

Its not always bad luck.  The only one I could say was bad luck was the joke of officiating performance against 2016 Ohio State.

2015 msu - complete chokejob by probably a top 3 moronic play in program history.  I see teams able to run out the clock week after week without doing something that stupid.  Tell the fucking Aussie kicker you can't roll out like a fucking moron and catch the fucking ball.

2015 ohio state - unpreapred and unmotivated team, a disgraceful performance.  Harbaugh signed off on that defensive gameplan - its his team, its not the Hoke CEO bullshit.

2016 iowa- complete chokejob. Unmotivated, undisciplined, unprepared.

2016 florida state - team spent days laughing at Florida State for riding jet skis and jerking off on the beach to bikinis.  Then our team comes out completely uninterested, then decides to actually play late in the game and then has everyone's walk on hero miss a tackle a pee wee football player could make.  

Its not always about getting breaks.  We got screwed against 2016 Ohio State.  The rest were complete chokejobs and avoidable with any semblance of proper preparation.   

 

 

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

January 18th, 2017 at 7:39 PM ^

A lot people like to root for and cherish Indiana football here (which is extremely stupid), but they are basically a MAC team.

I don't value those wins much.

Sorry, but its very frustrating to finish 4th place in the conference when we have the Number 1 defense in the country.

Stringer Bell

January 18th, 2017 at 7:40 PM ^

A 6 win Indiana team is basically a MAC team?  Uh, no.  They played a close game against OSU that year too, with their backup QB no less.  They're called chaos team for a reason.  I get it's frustrating, but an elite defense can only do so much when you have a mediocre offense unfortunately.  Losing 3 games by a total of 5 points is a combination of bad luck and the players spending the first half of their careers being coached by a guy who didn't know how to win football games.  There's only so much Harbaugh can do to fix Hoke's mess, the fact that we won 20 games in 2 seasons following a 5-7 season tells me he did a damn good job of that.

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

January 18th, 2017 at 7:59 PM ^

The choking away of wins is completely accurate in my prior post.

I think the baseline for the talent was more 7-8 wins pre-Harbaugh.  2014 was absolutely ridiculous in that we were clearly coached down to 5 wins.

There was a lot of progress, but I don't view it as being as big as some.

The offense wasn't that mediocre.  It became mediocre after it went into a shell after we were rolling msu.  The whole season changed after that Speight Int.  We were steamrolling them and then basically shut things down and never really recovered.   

Though, I am guessing that Harbaugh may have been secretly waiting to absolutely humilate them in 2017 on our field, which I fully expect.  

I guess the fewer Hoke players the better.  I don't really have a problem with guys graduating in 3 years and seeking transfers.  We need this team to be all Harbaugh players as soon as possible so we don't have that Hoke loser mentality in any of our players.

Stringer Bell

January 18th, 2017 at 8:17 PM ^

Our offense was pretty mediocre.  They lit up bad teams like Maryland and Rutgers, but against any quality defense they weren't very productive.  14 points against Wisconsin, 13 points against Iowa, 17 points against OSU.  We didn't have the OL or the QB to finish off close games.  It sucks, but there's only so much Harbaugh can do about that.  One fewer turnover by a typically careful QB and we beat OSU, one more tackle by a very good special teams player and we beat FSU.  There was definitely a degree of bad luck involved, it's why we finished 3rd in S&P despite finishing 3rd in our own division.

Squash34

January 18th, 2017 at 11:54 PM ^

The one thing I agree with over reaction John is the offense was not mediocre. I'll give you Iowa, everyone was off. But everyone that watched that Wisconsin game knows they were moving the ball consistently then 3 missed fg makes it look like they got shutdown.
They also moved the ball against osu until it was time for bleeding the clock out. That part of the offense was poor. That is why harbaugh started passing more in those situations than running.

TrueBlue2003

January 19th, 2017 at 1:00 AM ^

Yes, we had the most talent.  That's what this thread is about.  But we didn't win the games necessary to finish higher than tied for third in the conference.  At some point being the "best" i.e. most NFL draft picks, high rankings in advanced stats, etc. doesn't really matter unless you win the games.  We underacheived this year relative to our talent. 

OwenGoBlue

January 18th, 2017 at 7:24 PM ^

Your take is absurd in whole but I'll address Iowa specifically. That game was a "Speight hits just one wide open guy downfield" away from a win and two of those away from an easy win. Plenty of opportunities there from good play calling against a loaded box.

Oh and the defense played well which you're totally ignoring.

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

January 18th, 2017 at 7:31 PM ^

At the end of the game, they gave up a bunch of yards on a screen pass and then let a leadfooted QB run for a first down to make the field goal a chip shot as opposed to a iffy 40+ yarder (in which there kicker was hit or miss in that range).

That wasn't Clemson we were facing.  Defense was supposedely Number 1.  Not very elite to allow that.

Also, how many more years are we gonna hear the excuse "it would have been a win/easy win if the QB could hit an open downfield pass."

We lost a playoff berth because we got outcoached by a coach everyone laughs about all the time here.  

OwenGoBlue

January 18th, 2017 at 7:57 PM ^

Not an excuse, Michigan lost that game because they didn't make enough of the plays that they needed to make. Those passes are a few obvious examples of that; if the other team loads the box you need to be able to punish them one on one and the inability to make those plays was the story of the game to me.

The team didn't look undisciplined, unmotivated or unprepared they just didn't execute within the broader game context due to a combination of inaccuracy, pass protection and Desmond King/Josey Jewell being damned good in coverage.

My comment wasn't to make an excuse but to disagree with your broad indictments of players/coaches while ignoring that the other guy gets a say in these results, too.

I didn't like the last offensive and defensive possessions of the game but two drives aren't ever an entire football game.

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

January 18th, 2017 at 8:15 PM ^

We had a facemask called (even if it was the wrong call on that punt return).  We allowed it to be called because a poor tackle attempt was made and we allowed the ref to have the impression that it was a facemask.

We stupidly ran into their punter multiple times.

We fumbled a kickoff.

Even though it was very questionable call, Devin Bush did not need to add that extra hit to allow the refs to call him on targeting (he was already being watched closely thanks to our joke of a local media making it a story because their precious team's player got his ass lit up).  

Those are discipline problems and not being prepared for the environment. 

At some point, you have to have a QB that is able to complete a downfield pass.  

Also drives at the end of the game always decide a game and can change your entire perception of a team and season.

We could have been 7-5 in 2015 if a couple didn't go our way.  We could have lost to Wisconsin and Indiana this year as well without two drives going our way.

OwenGoBlue

January 18th, 2017 at 8:22 PM ^

I agree end of game drives matter a lot and that Michigan didn't play well. Probably the game with the most preventable mistakes throughout this season, on balance I just disagree with the broader indictments and think downfield QB accuracy was the largest share.

Can you imagine trying to list every mistake of that caliber in the worst game of, say, 2014? Or 2010? Not to say Harbaugh and co aren't subject to criticism but I've never watched this team and questioned their motivation or the staff's commitment to discipline and preparedness.

Local media may have played a role but Bush had that one coming even if it was terrible timing for us; he murdered a lot of people this year on hits that were close. Here's hoping he can retain the murder streak while involving his head and shoulders less often.

Squash34

January 19th, 2017 at 12:14 AM ^

My god. Herstreet even called the first kick a blatent flop. The second one was against a rugby punt that was outside the tackle box. In other words they both were bad calls.
Bush is a freshman that was going back to try to pick up a legal block and went to high.
It is laughable that you are trying to say this is evidence of " discipline problems and not being prepared for the environment."

Squash34

January 19th, 2017 at 12:06 AM ^

Did you forget the Wisconsin game? Wilton hit a deep fade to win the game. And he hit many diwnfield passes throughout the year. Not to mention rodduck hit deep ball the entire second half of the year.. You are just focusing on the ones missed, then using it to act like deep pass is a distant memory.
Also, it is delusional to say the Iowa coach out coached harbaugh and that that game cost us a shot at the playoffs. Firstly, getting screwed in the shoe lost them a playoff birth. Secondly, it was not the coaches that cost them the game. The offense was all out of sync. People remember the deep ball that were missed. However, the 3rd down pass that Wilton put on chesson number, but the freshman DB pulled it out of his hands,was all that was needed to win that game.
It was not being out coached the team just did not exucute. Your reviews of what happened in games is simplistic and extremely elementary.

Squash34

January 18th, 2017 at 11:37 PM ^

Luck is something it often talked about, but is a big part of things. Michigan was very unlucky when it came to bounces and tipped balls. It seemed the rare times a Michigan player fumbled it bounced right to the player. Conversely, when they caused a fumble it often bounced right to the only player looking for the ball on the offense. Moreover, it felt like the same happened on a lesser scale with tipped balls that turned into picks. Whereas,when a lineman for Michigan tipped a ball at the Los it caused us a pick because a backer or DB had jumped the route.
This happened so much all year that when the kick returned for fsu mugged the punt at the one I thought "that's the first real good bounce I could remember all year."
Then there are teams like bama who had like a millionty-billion defensive TDS. Sure some where because of one of there studs jumping a route and making a very good play. However, many, if not most came in situations where they would cause a fumble or there was a bad snap, or a tipped pass would lead to the ball in the hands of a defender with a clear shot to the endzone with no one around him.
I, for, one think Michigan is do for a season like that.

Wolfman

January 18th, 2017 at 7:10 PM ^

and it says, "There is talent there and when everyone did everthing correctly during the same play, we got a glimpse of what might be if this were the rule and not the exception."  It is actually true that taken separately, most have the skill to dominate at their position. It also says for some reason this was never the case and that is why against lesser D lines, they looked fantastic and against those who forced them into thinking, along with executing, chances for success went down accordingly. 

ChiCityWolverine

January 18th, 2017 at 6:47 PM ^

The only changes I'd make if I were an NFL exec would be moving Glasgow up to Middle Rounds, and maybe dumping Smith and Magnuson down a level. Otherwise a pretty accurate grouping of our prospects to me though it's too early to know before the combine has even taken place. 

JOHNNAVARREISMYHERO

January 18th, 2017 at 6:47 PM ^

I want death by firing squad for the moron who signed off on a November night game @ Iowa.

Harbaugh hates night games and yet somehow that still got approved.

I still can't get over the fact how unprepared, unmotivated, and how pathetic a performance that was.

We got outcoached by a braindead moron.

The fact that our "Number 1" defense then allowed their QB to run free for a first down was just the last proof that the team wasn't close to ready to taking the next step.

Our defense ended up falling for a similar, late 4 quarter screen pass in the Florida State game to top things off.

 

 

BigBlue02

January 18th, 2017 at 9:51 PM ^

I agree. The defense needs to play perfect for every minute of every game or ese the team is unmotivated and under performs. I can't believe our number one defense didn't let up zero first downs via QB scramble. I heard the 2-10 defenses didn't let up a QB scramble first down all year. Harbaugh needs to go. Cancel the football team. I'm anger

The Fan in Fargo

January 18th, 2017 at 7:12 PM ^

Was thinking exact same thing. Some team will get a steal there. Another kid that won't have to focus on school anymore and should be able to hone his craft and excel. I wanted to somehow jump through my tv when he got hit from the side on that cheap hit and take a full sprint at that punk. I bet the thought has crossed his mind that he's going to get even with that little buckeye bastard in the NFL. No cheap shot though. Straight up man taking on a bitch.