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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6902
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When was our last big play,

When was our last big play, like 30+ yard play? Indiana?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6903
1 percent
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Tell me that dude stepped our

Tell me that dude stepped our of bounds

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6904
LongLiveBo
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Wow.  Just wow.

Wow.  Just wow.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6905
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Damn, DG

Damn, DG

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6906
Huma
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Ok. I have had it. Bench

Ok. I have had it. Bench Gardner. He is just terrible

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6907
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you have to expect that kind

you have to expect that kind of thing

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6908
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Gardener still fucking sucks

Gardener still fucking sucks

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6909
Uper73
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Unbelievable

I am crying now

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6910
MGoManBall
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THROW THE BALL

THROW THE BALL

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:07 PM
#6911
gwkrlghl
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This is stupid

Im almost glad we're going to lose so people will stop giving Borges a bunch of free passes. If we win, no one is going to remember we have like 50 yards of offense this half and this crap is going to continue for another year or two

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
(Reply to #1368) #6912
Huma
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This is not all Borges.

This is not all Borges. Gardner is playing the worst game of his career today. Slightly better than the other 3 worst of his career, which were the last 3 weeks

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
(Reply to #1387) #6913
Huma
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Worse, not better

Worse, not better

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
(Reply to #1368) #6914
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And it's not just the half.

And it's not just the half. We have no offensive yards

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:06 PM
#6915
snowcrash
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and

we get into FG range

and

we can't hold on to the freaking ball.

 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:07 PM
#6916
KAYSHIN15
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Ive had it with Devin...

Give the job to Shane and make Devin a WR next year...

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:07 PM
(Reply to #1371) #6917
dcmaizeandblue
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Idiot

Idiot

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
(Reply to #1378) #6918
KAYSHIN15
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Well the jury is out in DG.

What do we have to lose at this point?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:08 PM
(Reply to #1371) #6919
snowcrash
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Morris could be worse

As bad as Gardner has been, we have no evidence that Morris can play at all.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
(Reply to #1371) #6920
Perkis-Size Me
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Yes, because I'd love to ruin

Yes, because I'd love to ruin a true freshman QB's confidence forever by allowing him to get manhandled and humiliated by OSU next week.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:07 PM
#6921
Blue in Yarmouth
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AB...

The guy who runs the cafeteria at the hospital I work at really reminds me of big AL B. It doesn't matter what he makes he always uses the same two spices. He's affectionately known as "tony two spice".



Borges and his three plays a game remind me a lot of tony, and though I won't call Al anything affectionately, I will call him Al three spice from now on. Please DB, leave Al in Iowa after this game.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:30 PM
(Reply to #1373) #6922
Princetonwolverine
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Ohio State fans may actually

Ohio State fans may actually give Gardner a standing ovation next week if he doesn't improve.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:07 PM
#6923
macdaddy
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Wow, Hoke is pretty fired up.

Wow, Hoke is pretty fired up. NOT!

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:07 PM
#6924
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Something is very wrong with

Something is very wrong with Michigan. #InDepthAnalysis.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:07 PM
#6925
1 percent
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Dang

Dang

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:08 PM
#6926
ppudge
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Please tell me that we will

Please tell me that we will indeed fire people after the season? That's the only solace I take.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:08 PM
#6927
Cold War
Joined: 01/15/2012
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Three time outs left. Cmon D.

Three time outs left. Cmon D.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:08 PM
#6928
mgoknight
Joined: 08/27/2012
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Gardner sucks so badly

Gardner sucks so badly

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:08 PM
#6929
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Our D deserves better than

Our D deserves better than this O.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:08 PM
#6930
1 percent
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Well stop em here and get the

Well stop em here and get the ball back

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:08 PM
#6931
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3 and out boys

3 and out boys

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6932
IPFW_Wolverines
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Gardner made a mistake, no

Gardner made a mistake, no doubt about it. Yet why was Michigan in a position that they needed a game winning drive in the final few minutes? Because up until that point the Borges offense managed six yards total offense...

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
(Reply to #1388) #6933
Huma
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Dude Gardner has played

Dude Gardner has played really really bad today. This game is not on Borges

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:12 PM
(Reply to #1388) #6934
Coldwater
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Because Michigan sucks this

Because Michigan sucks this year.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6935
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Dave Brandon should just meet

Dave Brandon should just meet Al Borges and Darrell Funk when they get off the bus in A2 and give them their pink slips. Well earned today

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
(Reply to #1389) #6936
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I'd love this

Fuck them. They suck at their jobs and deserve to be fired. No excuse for the regression that has resulted from their tenures.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
(Reply to #1389) #6937
Blue in Yarmouth
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If only...

That is all

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6938
Perkis-Size Me
Joined: 11/30/2011
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So Iowa has 2 missed field

So Iowa has 2 missed field goals, 4 turnovers, and they still are going to, in all likelihood, win the game?



Why does that sound about right?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
(Reply to #1390) #6939
Huma
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Missed 1 fg. One of the

Missed 1 fg. One of the turnovers was on the botched fg snap

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6940
skurnie
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I hate

Everything. Especially Borges

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6941
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There is no defense

There is no defense Michigan's offense can't make look spectacular.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6942
Cold War
Joined: 01/15/2012
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My God Mason hates Michigan.

My God Mason hates Michigan.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6943
ppudge
Joined: 10/19/2008
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I can't tell if our defense

I can't tell if our defense sucks. I think they do. I KNOW our offense sucks.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
(Reply to #1394) #6944
dcmaizeandblue
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You've got to be kidding me?

You've got to be kidding me? The defense played great this game. The offense and al Borges lost this game

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 PM
(Reply to #1394) #6945
Soulfire21
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Our defense does not suck,

Our defense does not suck, our offense and special teams do and and puts our defense in bad places consistently.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6946
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Without Ross and Morgan

Without Ross and Morgan filling gaps we're getting killed up front, Gedeon looks lost out there.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6947
Roy G. Biv
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There is no defense

There is no defense Michigan's offense can't make look spectacular.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
(Reply to #1397) #6948
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Ain't that the truth.

Ain't that the truth.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:09 PM
#6949
htownwolverine
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I'm going to stab me eyeballs

I'm going to stab me eyeballs now.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
#6950
MGoManBall
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Iowa doesn't deserve the

Iowa doesn't deserve the hardest working players. Borges does.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
#6951
umichjenks
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Glen Mason

Is just mad bc Navarre scored against him on a 40 td reception Hahha.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
#6952
snowcrash
Joined: 07/22/2008
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defense

They always deflate as soon as the offense blows the game. Now they're giving up 20 yard runs to that fat slow RB.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
#6953
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Enough of Gardiner Already!

I can't defend him any longer!  Time to move on!  There is no excuse for that fumble.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
#6954
M-Dog
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Gardner is a shell of his

Gardner is a shell of his former self.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:13 PM
(Reply to #1404) #6955
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What is his former self?

What is his former self?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:10 PM
#6956
UMxWolverines
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Who's excited to see 30,000

Who's excited to see 30,000 osu fans in Michigan Stadium next week?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:12 PM
(Reply to #1406) #6957
Cold War
Joined: 01/15/2012
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Honestly I hope it's not

Honestly I hope it's not more.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#6958
Coldwater
Joined: 12/14/2008
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Hoke

I just don't get him. He preaches toughness and physical play. But after three seasons, his team is the exact opposite of that. Whatever he is doing at practice, it's Fucking wrong!!!!!

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#6959
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Random media guy: "coach

Random media guy: "coach Hoke-your offense gained all of 32 yards in the second half with 26 of them coming on the last drive where Garner fjumbled.  Does that change your feeliing about the offensie at alll"

Hoke: "Absolutely NOT.  Matter of fact I gave Big Al a contract extension at the end of the game.  He's ithe BEST."

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#6960
YoOoBoMoLloRoHo
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D is exhausted

We need a better S&C program for the D if they have to play the whole game.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#6961
Tator Salad
Joined: 12/13/2012
MGoPoints: 1031
Taylor likes to run along

Taylor likes to run along with tailbacks... TACKLE THEM!!!!

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#6962
Wee-Bey Brice
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Hilarious, first TO of the

Hilarious, first TO of the day and all of a sudden all the blame is placed on DG. You guys forget how we got 21 pts? 7 from the defense, 14 from DG bailing out Borges' ass. 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:13 PM
(Reply to #1415) #6963
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I have been blaming Gardner

I have been blaming Gardner all game. He has been terrible. The fumble was just the most recent. Terrible decisions, tentative running, and errant throws.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
(Reply to #1429) #6964
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Yes, you have been blaming

Yes, you have been blaming him all game. Your biases have been made clear which is why I haven't addressed you. There's been PLENTY of blame to go around. 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:18 PM
(Reply to #1429) #6965
Gameboy
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That is because you are a

That is because you are a fucking idiot.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#6966
gutnedawg
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I feel bad for Devin. Borges

I feel bad for Devin. Borges puts him into such a tough position with his shitty play calling and Devin has been trying to compensate by making big plays and probably trying too hard to make it happen.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#6967
umichjenks
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Explain to me why

Morris can't get a series? How is a 3 and out or a sack any worse than the garbage Gardner is producing?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:11 PM
#6968
BlueGoM
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Pathetic.  Worst offense I've

Pathetic.  Worst offense I've ever seen this team have.  Been watching for 20+ years.  Can't run the ball, can't throw the ball.

Get ready for a 45-0 beatdown next week.

 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:13 PM
(Reply to #1421) #6969
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The only way we lose 45-0...

Is if Ohio calls off the dogs, otherwise I would expect some kind of rilvary record in points by Ohio

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:12 PM
#6970
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Defense has not been good!

They had a 14 point lead in the second and have already given up 17.  Unacceptable!  We knew going in that we were going to need the defense.  

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 PM
(Reply to #1425) #6971
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You can't be serious

They were on the field pretty much the ENTIRE half and scored 7 of the 21 points we have. 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 PM
(Reply to #1425) #6972
bighouse22
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Borges

This does not in any way change the fact that Borges needs to take a hike!

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:17 PM
(Reply to #1435) #6973
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I don't disagree with that,

I don't disagree with that, but your post didn't mention Borges at all. You attacked the defense. 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 PM
(Reply to #1425) #6974
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Tired

They've been on the field the majority of the second half. They looked tired on the last two drives. Iowa's Oline been bossing then around

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:13 PM
#6975
Wee-Bey Brice
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Everybody wants Shane Morris

Everybody wants Shane Morris to play until he actually does and plays like a freshman. Then it's going to be "Shane sucks! Get rid of this guy. Whose idea was it to play him anyway?" 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 PM
(Reply to #1428) #6976
Uper73
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Yep

He would get murdered- this offense has no identity, attitude and barely a pulse

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
(Reply to #1428) #6977
bighouse22
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Can't be worse!

No really, he can't be worse than the regression we have seen with Gardiner.  He is just plain bad right now!  

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
(Reply to #1428) #6978
bighouse22
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Can't be worse!

No really, he can't be worse than the regression we have seen with Gardiner.  He is just plain bad right now!  

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:22 PM
(Reply to #1458) #6979
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You've misspelled it like 5

You've misspelled it like 5 times now, it's Gardner, no "I"

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:13 PM
#6980
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We have had 3 extra possessions

Yes Gardner has made a few plays but his bad overshadows his good. He hesitates on throws, never checks to other receivers, refused to run north and get the easy yards, etc, etc.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
(Reply to #1431) #6981
IPFW_Wolverines
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Ya? You try being led by

Ya? You try being led by Borges. You would be in the fetal position begging for mercy too.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 PM
#6982
rbgoblue
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Which offense was worse?

Which offense was worse? Michigan 2013 or Michigan 2008 (RR year 1)?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
(Reply to #1434) #6983
umichjenks
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Guaranteed if we were

in Iowa's position there, Borges calls a run

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
(Reply to #1434) #6984
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This one.  In 2008 the

This one.  In 2008 the offense was at least able to generate positive yards.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
(Reply to #1434) #6985
IPFW_Wolverines
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2013 because in 2008 there

2013 because in 2008 there was a good reason for the offense. Michigan had just lost every skill position from 2007.

 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:14 PM
#6986
ppudge
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We will be 7-4 after this

We will be 7-4 after this game. 7-5 after next week. If we had won all of the close games, we could be 10-2 (assuming OSU game is not close). If we had lost all the close games (ND, Akron, UConn, Northwestern), we could have been 3-9. So 7-5 is about right for this team. Which, by the way, is pathetic for a coach in his 3rd year in this bad conference.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#6987
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Great coaching by Iowa...

Great call

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#6988
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The offensive staff can't be

The offensive staff can't be let go soon enough

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#6989
samdrussBLUE
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Fuck. Fire. Borges. Damn.

Fuck. Fire. Borges. Damn. Suck

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#6990
JayMo4
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When we lose next week, we'll

When we lose next week, we'll have lost four of our last five.  We're an OT win over a terrible team away from a very Rodriguez like five straight losses to close out the season.  We've utterly collapsed.

This is a team that has thrown in the towel completely.  No defending coaches that allow this to happen.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#6991
snowcrash
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the final indignity

Giving up a 3rd and 12. That said, the defense played well enough to win (given Iowa's propensity to self-destruct) if the offense had done anything whatsoever.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#6992
samdrussBLUE
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+ all the points to the first

+ all the points to the first person to create the Fire Borges thread

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:15 PM
#6993
jdon
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wow

commence meltdown

 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
#6994
bluebyyou
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Game over 11-2, 8-5 and

Game over

11-2, 8-5 and probably 7-6 this year.  I can only imagine how our O will be when Borges gets all his guys in here.

Program is going in a bad direction.  Wonder how many seats will be available at Michigan Stadium next year.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
#6995
Soulfire21
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My faith in this coaching

My faith in this coaching staff, particularly the offensive staff, is waning by the week.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
#6996
Perkis-Size Me
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Hey guys, remember when we

Hey guys, remember when we used to make fun of MSU's offense?



Yikes....

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
#6997
the Glove
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Blow this

Blow this one

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
#6998
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Michigan...officially a basketball school...

...

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:45 PM
(Reply to #1491) #6999
vwolverine7239
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All in the past

Great records when you live in the past. Put up the records of the last 6  to 10 years. We are now one of the bottom teams in the Big Ten with no light at the end of the tunnel until we get the right coach. 9 years without a Big Ten title and we are years away from competing for one.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
#7000
macdaddy
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Well not as bad as the 1 v 2

Well not as bad as the 1 v 2 Chuck Long loss in '85 but very very bad nonetheless.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
#7001
ppudge
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Losing to Iowa sucks because

Losing to Iowa sucks because Iowa is not very good. But neither is Michigan.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:20 PM
(Reply to #1459) #7002
M-Dog
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This one does not mean

This one does not mean anything.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:16 PM
#7003
Uper73
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I cannot believe I am saying this

Entire staff needs to be fired after OSU, this team embarrassed themselves today and are very poorly prepared in all phases. We would be third tier MAC team.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:39 PM
(Reply to #1465) #7004
samdrussBLUE
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And ND just went to NCG

And ND just went to NCG

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:17 PM
#7005
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Iowa celebrating as if they

Iowa celebrating as if they just beat a good team.  Might as well go nuts after beating Iowa State.

 

 

What?  They did that, too?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:17 PM
#7006
jonvalk
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If Borges isn't fired, I have

If Borges isn't fired, I have lost faith in Hoke.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:26 PM
(Reply to #1467) #7007
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True

Very true dude. Borges needs to go.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:17 PM
#7008
Princetonwolverine
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This is all the fault of not

This is all the fault of not having a separate second half thread.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:18 PM
#7009
Bluemaizeaukee
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So we have an outsider (RRod)

So we have an outsider (RRod) a shot at the coaching job and now a "Michigan Man" a shot as well.  Don't know where Michigan goes from here.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:19 PM
(Reply to #1469) #7010
Uper73
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RR

Like it or not RR had much better offenses, maybe they should have just hired Mattison.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:23 PM
(Reply to #1480) #7011
Uper73
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Not any more

I would have agreed up to today, this team shows nothing and is getting beat up, no emotion, poorly prepared. Out coached yet again in all phases. That's on Hoke.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:33 PM
(Reply to #1469) #7012
wolpherine2000
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We haven't tried...

...billboards in the stadium.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:18 PM
#7013
thereverend
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next week should be

next week should be fun.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:18 PM
#7014
Coldwater
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It's Ohio State week

Might as well bend over now and get ready for it. It's going to hurt reeeeeaaaaal bad.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:18 PM
#7015
M-Dog
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17 - 0 in the 2nd half.  4

17 - 0 in the 2nd half.  4 Iowa tunovers did not hurt them.  1 Michigan turnover killed us.

 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:20 PM
(Reply to #1473) #7016
snowcrash
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uh

what killed us was getting outgained by 250 yards. Without those TOs Iowa wins 27-7 or so and the 4th quarter is garbage time.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:18 PM
#7017
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Ferentz tells Leman "You know

Ferentz tells Leman "You know football better than I do."  That's the guy that just outcoached our guy.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:24 PM
(Reply to #1474) #7018
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He knows

Mullets

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:25 PM
(Reply to #1474) #7019
samdrussBLUE
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I chucked when he said that

I chucked when he said that

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:19 PM
#7020
SDCran
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Where's the flag

Lots of players on the field with their helmets off. /s

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:19 PM
#7021
Millen69
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I feel bad for the players

I feel bad for the players

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:20 PM
(Reply to #1478) #7022
Uper73
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Why

They are not playing it is not all coaching, got to show something they are rolling over

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:21 PM
(Reply to #1478) #7023
M-Dog
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on D.

on D.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:20 PM
#7024
jonvalk
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I was going to get tickets to

I was going to get tickets to The Game, but I decided to save the money and save myself the punch in the nuts.



Good lord, I have no faith we'll even score a point next week.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:21 PM
#7025
BigT
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Never

Never have I called for Hoke to be fired. But rationally thinking, how is he in any way outperforming Rich Rod? Sure, he had the 11-2 debut, but he has regressed to equal RR's output, where at least RR progressed to that point.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:23 PM
(Reply to #1485) #7026
samdrussBLUE
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Same?

Hoke: 26 wins

Rich: 15 wins

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:31 PM
(Reply to #1494) #7027
umichjenks
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Don't forget that

11-2 season was with all RR players.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:44 PM
(Reply to #1505) #7028
samdrussBLUE
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Yup. He realized what he

Yup. He realized what he had. Ran a good system for Denard et al and Put them in a position to win. Something we know rich rod could not do. I'm not real happy with Hoke right now either, but to say they are now at the same point is not something I agree with. This is assuming of course, Hoke can assess the offense in the off season objectively

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:30 PM
(Reply to #1485) #7029
SDCran
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No

UM got blown out in all of their losses his final season. I'm not happy about this team but if you start making those comparisons, you won't be making the point you think you are making

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:36 PM
(Reply to #1504) #7030
Uper73
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Not a RR thing

This team is not well prepared or playing well in any phase. 11-2 to 6-7/7-7. There is talent and it is not performing in any phase to the degree necessary to win in this conference? The teen and body of work is in the wrong direction.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:38 PM
(Reply to #1507) #7031
Uper73
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Trend

Sorry, the trend of this staff is not encouraging

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:43 PM
(Reply to #1485) #7032
Millen69
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Thay are both very avg.  

Thay are both very avg.

 

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:21 PM
#7033
Blue in Yarmouth
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I am speechless

I just don't know if I can keep doing this to myself. If the powers that be don't care enough about this football team to make tough decisions and hire competent coaches than why should I care this much about this team.



I just feel terrible for the players. They put their faith and careers in the hands of this staff and those on offense couldn't have been let down more if they had been coached by my grandmothers lawn bowling team. I just don't know what to say anymore.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:23 PM
#7034
JayMo4
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Assuming a loss next week

Assuming a loss next week (and I think that's safe to do,) we're two plays away from being 5-7 with losses to UConn and Akron.

 

This hasn't just been a bad season, this has been one of the worst seasons in modern Michigan football history.  The only reason that isn't jumping out at people more is because the Rodriguez era distorted our perception of success and failure.  This has been a disaster. 

 

Can a coaching staff rebound, not from a disappointing season but a disatrous season?  I don't think that happens too often.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:59 PM
(Reply to #1493) #7035
vwolverine7239
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You Nailed Jay

Except we should have lost to Northwestern to and could easily been 4-8. Gardner is Horrible. Before anybody defends him some of the sacks are his fault because of poor judgement. Turn overs, poor decisions. He just is not the answer. Our two best offensive lineman are gone after this year. If the recruits now start falling we are in a tailspin unti you start over with another coach and he has a few years again. Many top programs such as Alabama, USC etc have gone through this same thing until finally finding the righ coach. 9 years without winning the big ten with no end in sight. 1-5 against MSU and worse against Ohio. We are a bottom program in the Big Ten for the last 6 years now. With the recruiting we have had this is ALL COACHING. My hopes were high for Hoke but he now seems in over his head. I would say unfortunately one more year and if we do not turn this around with beating our rivals and getting to the BIg ten Championship game he should go. 4 years and they are then all his players. He needs to fire Borges and the offensive line coach after the year or all but Mattison need to go after next year. He will not make the tough decisions he needs to. Cannot wait for the day this program is back. It will be someday but I am afraid we have a few more years to wait.  

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:24 PM
#7036
Bluemaizeaukee
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I'm not saying they should

I'm not saying they should fire Hoke; okay maybe I am, but hire a frikin' coach who's going to bring Michigan back to glory.  I don't care who it is, just pay the man.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:24 PM
#7037
GMHW
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I think the people hating on

I think the people hating on Gardner are a bunch of shitheads and I hope they defect to OSU. Yes DG should have gone out of bounds, it was a good play by the D.

I still think he can be a very good player, but the guys running the show aren't up for the job.

It was an improved game for Borges but that isn't saying much. Greg Davis probably called a better game, maybe, I don't know, its a toss-up.

At the end of the year DB needs to have a sit-down with Hoke, heart-to-heart and if he doesn't like what he hears i.e. the offensive coaches are doing a great job... it may be time to fire Brady Hoke. Part of it depends on what's available right now.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 5:03 PM
(Reply to #1496) #7038
vwolverine7239
Joined: 11/02/2013
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Sorry you feel that way

Gardner is a good young man. Just a very poor quarterback. Count the turnovers this year. He makes poor decisions and to many times takes to long to make decisions. Yes he has a chance to be average with an offensive line and a beeter game plan but he will never be good. Hoke needs to make tough decisions to fire Borges and the offensive line coach or he needs to go.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:28 PM
#7039
Candor for Sale
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Joined: 01/13/2010
MGoPoints: 13731
Are you saying "Boo" or

Are you saying "Boo" or "Boo-orges"?

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November 23rd, 2013 at 4:28 PM
#7040
MGoBlue24
Joined: 08/22/2013
MGoPoints: 9252
Discouraging.

We needed the win for our psyche, the players' foremost. And maybe a few hundred MGoFollowers.

Urban will do anything possible to run up the score next week to impress voters and win recruits. Not good.

By and large, the Michigan I grew up with made half-time adjustments and owned the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

Just discouraging.

The bowl game match up should be interesting.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 5:57 PM
#7041
Jimmyisgod
Joined: 01/24/2012
MGoPoints: 4000
So sick of

So sick of hearing about Hoke being a great recruiter.  It's not showing up on the field, in fact I see RR's guys still doing most of the heavy lifting on this team and I fear for next year when our only 2 functional O linemen are gone, our #1 WR is gone, and the Gordons are not making plays on defense anymore.

This is Michigan, I expect top 10 classes every year, and Hoke has delivered, but we have the 15th ranked class so far for 2014, and it's not likely to improve all that much, that's not GREAT recruiting.

Hoke has to be held responsible.

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November 23rd, 2013 at 9:30 PM
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BlueGoM
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MGoPoints: 6063
That's because the seniors ,

That's because the seniors , the relatively few that are on the team, are RR's guys.  Of course they're doing the 'heavy lifting', they're seniors.

Go back and look at the 2010 class, see how few kids are on the roster now.  RR didn't do well recruiting here. But then of course he had people undermining him, to their everlasting shame.

Most of Hoke's players are RS freshmen or sophomores, and they're playing, including a lot of freshmen.

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