Michigan-Indiana open thread
How was there no game thread up yet?
Anyhow, I think we can agree that a win here more than justifies a court-storming.
It bugs me that Indiana reached bonus before we did. What home bias? Refs forgot they aren't at Assembly Hall.
Other than a few reffing critiques, both teams have looked good, the game is good, very entertaining to watch.
It could be better, but let's not forget that IU missed shots the should've made as well.
In the end, I'd say 33-30 is about right. The biggest issue to me is the fouls called when people guard Zeller. THAT is a joke.
In the end, it was our defensive intensity that carried us to the lead. We have to maintain that. We played with it for about 14 minutes of the 1st half. If we can get a full 20 minutes in the 2nd half with that intensity, we win.
Anyone know the foul situation right now?
Who's got 2?
For IU, Hulls 2, all other starters 1.
Thanks.
THJ 1, Burke 1, McGary 2, Morgan 2
If we can get 10+ minutes out of Morgan in the second half, I think we'll win. He's been huge on the defensive end. Without him our interior D is brutal.
Damnit, I looked askance at Cody Zeller from my monitor at home, and I got whistled for a foul
should really have held it at about 6-7 points into half. I think keeping hulls from shooting the 3 is the key for second half. Zeller gonna get some down low but keep the 3's from raining down and i think we got it.
Oladipo gets waaay too much credit for being allowed to hand-check the hell out of whoever they are playing. He is a great player, but the replay of Zeller's block was after he mugged Burke going up for the shot.
Also, Zeller is being treated like he is made out of glass.....as long as they call it even up, fine, but a few ticky tack bs calls.
who won the Creighton game?
MEET ME AT THE FAIR!
Burke needs to be a PG the second half and quit forcing things. Let others get involved and take what is given to him.
It will be interesting to see how the second half is called.
Ehh. Oladipo is pwn'ing Trey right now. Not sure we can survive with Tim "running the point". Trey's gonna have to figure him out, ASAP. Good stuff otherwise, very good stuff. I love the defense and physicality being displayed, by literally everyone. Everyone is battling. 2nd half will be interesting, especially down the stretch, regarding how the officials call the game. They're letting a lot go, on both sides.
Hey look, Doug Gottlieb not giving Michigan credit and generally being an ass. /shockedface
LOL you are correct. He's one of the most annoying people on TV.
Creen is a douche and thinks he's smarter than he actually is.
It's a tossup in a fight between the 2.
The guy's an ass. I hate to judge people but I can totally see him stealing credit cards or whatever the hell he did back in college.
Gottlieb refused to do chats when he was employed by ESPN because, according to a friend who works at espn.com, half the questions he got on his first and only chat asked how a thief got such a plum job. He was such a jerk to all off-air talent that the staff saved a bunch of those questions and randomly put them in his mailbox.
Not bad at all overall in the first half. Here are the shooting stats:
| FG% | 3FG% | FT% | EFF. FG% | |
| MICHIGAN | 40.00% | 30.00% | 66.67% | 45.00% |
| INDIANA | 35.14% | 50.00% | 25.00% | 39.19% |
Some other points of interest - Indiana has 10 offensive rebounds to our 4, and nine more total rebounds. We have more blocks, but almost every other box score stat is the same (both teams have six turnovers, and both teams have 9 PFs, and so on). Very competitive, as it should be.
Hopefully, we get a little momentum back and get another nice run going. A win earns us a 3-seed and a bye in the BTT and a needed extra break, I would think.
Also, shouldn't Zeller have two fouls. I swore they called one on their end of the floor (after a miss or soemthing) but then when the called him for "blocking" on Burke a few minuts later they said it was his first.
Still not sure why we thought McLimans would be a good idea on Zeller for a few minutes there. Otherwise good half even if Burke played a little out of control.
Who else are you going to put on him? I wouldn't take a chance getting a 3rd foul on anyone late in the first half.
as far as the refs go. reminds me of the 2nd round ncaa game against oklahoma.
College basketball has got to do something about the way two things are refereed.
1. Hand checking on the perimeter. A defensive player can't be allowed to extend an arm and impede the dribbler. That's what killed the NBA in the mid 90s and it's killing the ability of people to drive. If refs allow Jordan Hulls to effectively check the best point guard in the country by simply pushing him every time he tries to procede with the ball, all skill on the bounce is effectively taken out of the game.
2. The block-charge call. Jay Bilas has it right. Charges should be rare occurences from out of control players. The type of "charge" that Hulls drew on Burke on the break is awful for basketball. Falling over is not contesting the basket.
I would agree however if the block-charge is limited I would have to say that inside play in general needs to draw less fouls. As it is the only way teams can play post D is by taking charges because breathing on a player like zellar draws fouls calls.
Agree. But I think where the dispute comes in is during plays where a path to the basket was made and taken and a defender sliding in to "take the charge". One on one situations like a point-defender of post player defenders is a bit of a different story where the charge call definitely is warranted many times. It's the bad defense where a guy "steals" a charge out of no where that irks people and to me is ruining the game.
He had at least 1 or 2 drives to the basket where he created the play. Good to see both for today and going forward into next year
"Crisler Center"
edit: He was right
Indiana didn't put a whole lot of effort into that university commercial.
Forgive the probable bad question...I was late to the game due to Witchit St. not giving up....Where has Mitch been/what's wrong with Mitch???