Michigan has an edge on Bri'onte Dunn
Derek Jeter? Oh yeah, he definitely has an Edge.
i think that commercial only runs locally...so for those downvoting this, he's just repeating a line from a commercial that runs in NYC.
Seen that commercial many times. It's very easy to remember it because Derek Jeter driving a Ford Edge in real life is about as likely as Eric from Entourage dating Sloan in real life.
Easy bro, dreams are no joke... Sloan gives hope to all of us average guys.
See also: Courtney Stodden
commericial you guys are referencing?
Love seeing him tool around with his Ford Edge on the streets of Manhattan.
That would be Dunn and... Reeves? Wright?
Grant and Kozan
Not gonna lie, kinda want Garnett over Kozan. Also still miss Brown at TE...
Kozan is a Rivals 250 tackle with offers from Oregon, LSU, Oklahoma State, Ohio State, among many, many other elite programs. I would be more than happy to welcome him to this class.
Sam Grant: tight end recruit and Kyle Kalis's teammate at St. Edward.
We need a blocking TE with Williams moving to OT. Funchess is the pass catching guy so a 6'6 blocking TE is never a bad thing. He almost paved the way for THREE 1,000 yard rushers his junior year.
This move MIGHT have just as much to do with Williams as it does with Brown. Either way, I'd welcome Grant with open arms. Can't wait to see him MAULING Buckeyes in 2-3 years. Then faking the MAUL and catching TEs over defenseless safties.
Why would he be catching other Tight Ends? I just hope he can catch TDs as well as he does TEs!
Borges is saving that play for either ND, MSU or OSU next season. Suffice it to say, you haven't seen football like this before.
I see that play going like this:
Brandon Moore or Funchess is lifted up cheerleader style by a beastly Sam Grant and then the lifted TE catches the ball and drops down into the arms of Grant. TD MICHIGAN! Michigan beats Notre Dame bye 4 points in the last 30 seconds for the 4th year in a row!
I read yesterday on WolverineNation that AJ was told by staff they want him as a TE...which he was happy about.
I'm assuming that means for now he stays at TE?
Yeah Williams is the at the perfect weight they want for him to be right now. He has a very good shot of seeing the field next year.
TE that goes to high school with Kyle Kalis. He recently received an offer but is currently committed to Boston College.
Tight end from Kyle Kalis's school, St. Edwards. (Boston College Commit)
Michigan's Grant! (Sorry, can't pass up a whose vs. who's mistake.)
97.1 The Fan in Columbus just reported that Dunn will be getting an in home visit from Meyer next Tuesday. I guess Meyer has laid out how he plans to use Dunn in his offense. This recruitment is getting wierder and weirder. It's to the point where it is fairly obvious how important this is to both schools.
is getting to the point where it seems less and less about actually using him on the field (although no doubt we could definitely use a big back with his skills) but it seems more and more like a pissing contest between us and Ohio. I think Urban knows that if Dunn goes Blue, it symbolizes much more than just us landing a running back.
Convenient that Meyer can do all of this recruiting while the other OSU coaching staff gets ready for a bowl game.
Wow, it gives me an impression that whoever wins Dunn will win the tide of this decade
So Meyer is going to blatantly break the rules eh? I can just see it now "you see how much I wan you? I'm breaking NCAA rules to come see you again.". If he gets away with that, it's utter bullshit.
all the Brionte Dunns, please. this is shaping up to be an epic Michigan vs. Ohio Arms Race of The Future!
And Dunn's decision bodes well for the future in the broader sense. It is the first sign that Urbie might run into some of the same problems that RR had in terms of trying to recruit elite players from the State of Ohio and throughout the Midwest who do not want to play in a spread offense.
Any idea how him not enrolling early may affect his decision? Somehow I thought that if he was an EE, he could commit to UM and get the heck out of Ohio the next week. The lingering may change things.
His decision process doesn't change at all, just gives him more time. I think him rushing a decision because of EE favoring Michigan was over played. It is literally 55-45 Michigan right now, but the spread offense of Ohio, really slants it in Michigan's direction.
Characterizing Michigan's offense as "Pro / west coast" (Hoke) vs Ohio's offense as "spread" (Meyer) may tilt Dunn's decision toward Michigan--I hope it does.
But is the offensive choice that clear cut? Under Borges, our offense has been described as a hybrid, and as the 2011 season unfolded, our offense evolved more and more toward the spread. Will the 2012 season see more or less of Denard in the spread?
After Denard graduates, Dunn can reasonably expect Borges to "revert" to a pro-style offense. But who knows for sure what the future holds? Borges and Hoke may find that Denard opens up new ways of thinking about a hybrid offense.
What do you think?
I have no intention of debating how much the offense morphed into a spread toward the end of the year. It seemed like it did, but I'm too lazy to research it. However, I think the main point is that, in Borges' offense, we did have a tailback that ran for over 1,000 yards. Meyer has never had that. I think that's the main selling point here.
know how much of a spread it was with Fitz racking up 1000 yds in only 6 games.
Just beause an offense is a spread doesn't mean RB's automatically don't get lots of yards. RichRod had several 1,000 rushing seasons from RBs at WVU. Not all spreads are created equal. The RichRod spread is vastly different from the Meyer spread, which is vastly different from the Okst spread, which is vastly different from the Oregon spread, etc etc.
Point is, Meyer has never had a 1,000 yard rusher because he uses the RB differently from how Michigan has used the RB. And besides, Dunn may not seriously see the field until we have Gardner/Morris as our QB, at which point he'd be used in an offense that is closer to pro-style anyways.
Conversely, who knows what Urban Meyer's offense will look like in a few years? All we have to work with right now are the fact that Meyer's offense favors a running QB and giving the ball to guys that aren't the RB, and Borge's preferred offense will have a featured back. Besides, Dunn needs to consider more than just next year. I'm sure the coaches would love to redshirt him next year anyway, since we have things tied up with Fitz.
Meyer and Borges have long track records. Urban doesn't like a feature back that has a lot of carries. Borges does and they have been very clear they will revert back to that model post Denard. If they were going to stay with this current offense long term, Shane Morris would not be a great fit.
Braxton Miller is going to be there for a few years. He seems very well suited to Meyer's preferred offense.
I don't disagree, but Florida's offense was definitely not reliant on RBs and, perhaps more telling, hasn't sent a "true" RB to the NFL in years. My guess is that kids like Dunn with real pro dreams probably recognize that. Of course, great players can work anywhere, but the stigma with Meyer seems to be that his offensive players look great in college but (outside of Harvin and Tebow, apparently) struggle to translate that success to the pros. I'm not saying UM's track record is that much better, but at least with Borges you see an offense that will try to emulate more "pro-style" formations and gameplans when possible.
I wouldn't be so quick to say Tebow is starring in the NFL yet. Sure DEnver is winning games with him but he hasn't shown that he can be a true QB yet. I mean he was 3 of 16 yesterday until the end of the game when the Bears were playing off and they lost the game, Denver didn't win it. BTW I am not a Bears fan at all.
This is pretty tangent to the point at hand, and I'm not much of a Tebow apologist, but the 3/16 is pretty misleading...there were at least 6 flat drops in there. He might not have been the reason they ultimately won (Marion Barber would like a word), but he wasn't nearly as incompetent as the numbers suggest.
coming in signals pretty strongly more pro-style down the road. Same with Devin in my opinion. He can run, but not with Denard's explosiveness. Maybe some hybrid while DG runs the offense, but not as much read option as we're seeing at the moment.
I don't see any reason Devin Gardner can't do well in a pro-style offense. By the end of the season, it was apparent Denard's biggest problems were inexperience, inconsistent playcalling, and height.
In a couple of years, I would expect DG to be much more in sync with playcalling and expectations, plus he's what 6'4". I expect him to be a very potent weapon when he inherits the starting spot.
that the offensive style will be more Pro than Read Option Zone Blocking. Also from what I can tell of the inverted veer read option, Borges and Hoke have a pulling guard who blocks the guy who is "optioned". On top of that the Tight End selection they are going for is also indicative that they want to hand off to the running back a lot more.
THAT is why Brionte Dunn would want to be at Michigan. And I expect a lot of that O-Line from the 2012 class to be starting in 2013 with Devin Gardner at the helm.
If you're an elite RB looking at Michigan's offense, 2 names come to mind with regard to Borges: Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown.
who was not even a starter through the mid-season. It is how big backs are used. The fact that spread was used throughout the seasons shows how Borges would adapt his scheme to the talents he has.
Good to know...
I'm not sure if I should shoot you in the eye with a bebe gun, or try and respond to an ignorant statement.
Saw a piece of a paywall article on espn that said Yuri Wright thought Colorado was boring and he was ready to go home
Colorado probably had to dull it down after the Gary Barnett years.
Plus, the economy is down, they have to go with ugly strippers now.
Probably have to use the lunch shift girls
True, plus they brought him in on finals weekend, which doesn't seem too bright.
EDIT: take this for what it's worth (probably not much), but I think the reports of Yuri's "terrible" visit to Colorado seem to be a little overblown. Sources close to him have posted on pay CU message boards (so I won't repeat what they said), implying his tweets have more to do with a particularly dull night during finals weekend than the overall feeling towards the school.
Then you saw all of it. It was just a short blurb summing up his social networking updates.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Sam Webb recently say "Dunn will NOT be an early enrollee and may not decide until February." ? And then aren't there some rumors going on about Dunn possibly decommitting from Ohio after his trip to Michigan this weekend? Can someone clear this up for me?
I do recall see a few places stating the Dunn will not be an EE anymore
Last I knew Dunn was still going to be an EE.
Sam Webb said on his recruiting roundup this morning that Dunn will NOT be an early enrollee, wherever he goes. For that reason alone, the Dunn saga may not come to a conclusion as early as folks around here want.
What "pending sanctions on Ohio?" Mark Emmert is giving oral sex to Gordon Gee at this very moment.
Hopefully once Coach Hoke takes his visit he can give Dunn so insight on his offensive plans for next year, possibly getting more into the prostyle a bit more. That could help things tip even more into our favor.
Do you really think Borges and Fred Jackson forgot to mention that on their in home visit with Dunn?
No i'm sure they stressed it, but after his visit to Ohio and seeing their spread it would be a great advantage for Coach Hoke to go and stress it again. Having that be the last thing on his mind be how much of a role he could be at Michigan.
What is the story on Kozan in regards to his ranking? I ask, because he is only a borderline top 250 according to Rivals...but he's got a hell of an offer sheet.
I think the offer sheet speaks for itself. He's got offers from programs around the country, Auburn, LSU, OSU, Oregon. Rivals has him as a 4*, Scout a 3*, which is surprising considering his offers.
I just want to see the Ohio fan base squirm if he ends up being blue. I found this delusional post on bucknuts
Pretty funny considering Joe Bolden is enrolling early, and according to his twitter account he has already scheduled his classes at UM.
That seems legit.
I remember seeing either Tom, Sam or Ace retweeting Joe saying hes already registered.
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but I was talking about the guy that posted on the Rivals board saying that Bolden was visiting OSU.
Wow, you can only read the first 3 comments or so and I exited just shaking my head.
They are reverting to calling Hoke, Jabba the Hoke...Really? He is built like a former lineman! He is no Charlie Weis!
Also, they didnt waste any time jumping that Urban bandwagon and claiming him God of the Universe and of all things red.
I know you are just the messanger, and I am not criticizing just adding my two cents, but Bolden is BLUE for sure. Gosh those sillies from that school down south make me laugh.
...Logic fail from fan base who poop in cooler.
and no one seems to have mentioned that Borges was OC at Auburn when they had both Carnell (Cadillac) Williams and Ronnie Brown in the same backfield. Cadillac went for 1,165 yds and Ronnie went for 900+
Of anything, this would sell me
Bolden is already enrolled.
that your comment will keep him from editing the link.
and we have plenty of Ohio born players with their emails listed on the site. If some nutball buckeye wants to leave their IP address attached to a threat, the directory would be the first place they would check.
I wonder if the football players get emails from crazy starstruck fans.
Or worse, buckeyes.
With Dunn no longer an EE this one is probably going to last even longer
Probably for the best, Electrical Engineering would be a tough major for a football player.
So we have 5 spots left, right? Dunn, Wright, Reeves, Grant, and Kozan? That wouldnt be bad at all.
Isn't UM planning on taking a second WR, likely Jehu Chesson?
will be the 2nd receiver in this class... unless Payton decides to commit before...which is doubtful. nothing more to say on this.
but I can't start my own quite yet. I am curious about Jordan Payton because his official to Cal apparently went bad. His other two top choices were Michigan and ND but ND has plenty of receivers committed already. I could see him committing to Michigan. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
it said the opposite. Not sure where you may have heard otherwise. It said it went well and he had a good time and even tweeted "LAC SRAEB" which unscrambled is CAL BEARS. It sounds like he has more to think about after the weekend and that he was surprised with how nice it is there.
Unscrambled, the message is:
Which I read as a silent committment to the Little Rascals He-Man Woman Haters Club.
No, no, no.
It was REBAS ACL
Which I heard is an homage to Ms. McEntire.. She recently joined an over 50 Womens BBall league and had a nasty sprain while running the floor on the fast break. He's a huge fan.
I see that I may be mistaken as that clearly is a possibility. Other possibilities:
1. ABLE CARS - Maybe referring to how good his transportation was or the willingness of boosters to help with his future transportation.
2. AS CABLER - Maybe they are recruiting him for wide receiver and as an installer of high-speed internet fiber.
It also appears it may have been CAR SABLE signifying his horrifying imagination in that the Mercury Sable (ca 1994) was his dream car.
or perhaps it was Caar Bles his persona in Star Wars: Galaxies and he's calling dibs on it for Star Wars: The Old Republic.
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Mixed up. Wright had a terrible visit at Colorado and Payton had a great visit at Cal.
No it didn't. It went great. He's not coming here. Writings been on the wall for a little while now.
"Jordan Payton visited Cal this weekend and it seems as if the Cal coaches are not confident that they will land him. Greg Biggins tweeted "Hearing WR Chris Harper was offered by #Cal on his visit, don't be surprised to see a quick commitment" this would be their fourth reciever in this class, and it does not seem as if Cal would take a fifth. They were in Payton's top three with Michigan and Notre Dame, so it looks like Michigan still has a good shot at him."
I must have misread it but it still seems like Payton-Cal may not happen, at least based on that bit of info.
Thanks for reminding me why I dont shell out >$100 for a "premium" board, I cannot tell you how much I detest O$U, scUM etc, as soon as you type that I automatically tune anything you say out.
Might be our best bet, if mom likes the academics and with dad already doing his homework on Urban's lack of usage of a bigger back, this can only help Michigan's chances of getting this Dunn.
Local radio guys on The Fan in CBus are already spinning the Dunn situation. Earlier this afternoon they said that Dunn is a Michigan verbal commit and that Meyer is trying to get him to come to tOSU. The guy may have been confused, which is extremely possible, but it sounds like the spindoctoring has begun. Dunn commits to us and they didn't "lose" him. He commits to them and Meyer "stole" him.
I selfishly just want him to commit to the blue to piss off the Urban Meyer breathers down south. I know I should want him more because of his skill and what he would bring to Michigan.
But I like how Hoke it playing this out. He'll visit AA this Saturday, Urban is using up his in home, and Hoke will go in after Meyer for the kill.
let it be so