per Sam Webb
How bout this for blast from the past? Hearing #Michigan will drop in on Joliet (IL) RB Ty Isaac this week
Please let this happen.
This would be some good news, not sure why he would flip at this point, staff sees we need running backs....
I also saw this on twitter (random person, not insider) , but it could be since Tenn. and Aub. coaches are gone, to push Green to commit? I thought that was an interesting idea.
You're not sure why he would flip? Maybe it's because Lane Kiffin is in the process of turning one of the nation's biggest talent magnets into a dumpster fire.
PANIC over the status of Derrick Green. Michigan must have used Eminem to over come the USC/Snoop Dog influence.
It's Snoop Lion, silly.
it appears that folks remain just a little too sensitive for any attempt at humor to enter the fray...
I wonder if there is any mutual interest.
i assume we wouldn't be talking to him unless there was mutual interest.
The Coaches visit many high schools even when there is no chance of securing a current recruit. It is often about building relationships for the future.
But he's already commited to another school. Just because they're talking to this kid doesn't mean he's really still interested. Don't get me wrong I hope he is, I just wonder if he's really ready to move on from what he's commited to at USC
the timing of the meeting probably (but not definitely) means that he's at least willing to listen. the staff already built a relationship with isaac's coaches and would understand if michigan no longer recruited him after he verbally committed to usc. i bet usc's poor season, michigan's obvious need for a back, usc's other committments and poor short term outlook may have made isaac to have doubts.
What is this... And why is it not blurred off my screen yet
atleast the one on the right is a Mich grad
Ehhhh...I assume this bodes ill for Green, which...yeah...
Don't know how? A backup plan never hurt anybody. Tenn and Auburn without coaches and uncertain futures (probably even more loses headed their way). That leaves Michigan, VT, Miami, and Oregon.
Oregon: He has said he does not want to play in the spread. Probably just wants to visit.
Miami: I hope he visits. All 10 of their fans attending their games will really wow him.
VT: Close to home, could be a contender.
Michigan: One of the best OL classes in the county. Pro style set. 5* incoming QB. Head coach with a few years at the very least. Tradition. Future promise.
I wouldn't rule Michigan out.
I believe according to our buddy Mike Farrell that Green doesn't want to stay close to home, ruling VT out.
I heard that too
I'm not arguing that. Michigan is by far the logical choice for Green. But that's not what makes a recruits decision. Some people seem to think he wants to stay in the South, and I tend to think that's the case. This late rekindling of things with Isaac just seems suggestive of that, to me. If there's some indication that Ty wanted to be contacted, that would redefine the situation. Otherwise, it just seems like the staff is hoping to cash in on KIffen's comparative failure, which seems uncharacteristic of Hoke' MO.
Until Green or any other running back is committed, they should still recruit other top tier RBs. Committed or not. The only thing this proves is that Green is not a silent commit. Sorry all you conspiracy theorists.
Said brother. Id be happy with green or isaac. Or... BOTH. (eyebrow raise)
Would feel better about this if he was reaching out to us. Still, it's worth a shot.
TomVH tweet something about news regarding a 2013 oline commit we have? Not sure if it was good news or bad...it was pay walled ....any ideas?
It was really good news, but since its paywalled, Im not saying anymore.
As long as it isn't one of ours changing their mind...we need MOAR lineman!
It was good news about a kid who is currently committed to a school in Cali but has some interest.
but Rivals does not show him with a UM offer. Anyone know anything more about him and UM?
I could be wrong, I do not know who it is, but I am guessing that "a school in Cali" does not necessarily mean Cal.
He didn't say it was necessarily Cal, just a school in Cali. Looking a bit south from Berkeley is probably advised.
If you were Hunting for the name Berkley might be a good place to start.
Has the ship sailed on LTT?
Yup, sailed right into the Michigan locker room.
My guess is Khaliel Rodgers
It's Cameron Hunt who is currently committed to Cal. Our old friend says he is very interested in Michigan and is friends with Kyle Bosch and LTT.
I'm pretty sure it's a guy committed to UCLA...Kenny Lacy I believe.
Kenny Lacy is another project type lineman and UCLA has 6 other O-line commits a grey shirt incoming and three of five starters on the line are freshmen. Lacy was always a soft commit to UCLA and going after him is a good place to start if this is true.
Not getting my hopes up, though
Not me. I'm freaking out, man.
'Cause, you know, why not?
Could be a reflection of Fitz's long recovery more than Green' s choice. Starting job is IMMEDIATELY available for best RB.
Plus, USC could be a tire fire with shrinking roster and Kiffin's questionable status. Stanford, Oregon and UCLA are arguably the Pac front runners for the next 2-3 years.
Now this is the kind of post-OSU thread I can get behind. I'm skeptical that it's going anywhere (until/unless we hear from Isaac), but this produces much happier thoughts than memories of our playcalling and offensive line play from yesterday.
Always good to keep options open. I not going tojump to any major conclutions.
@BrOoKyLn_boii27: [email protected]: @BrOoKyLn_boii27 Michigan still recruiting you hard?” No question
Derrick almost NEVER talks about his specific recruitment from a specific school, save for saying when he'll visit. The timing of this tweet with the Ty Isaac news is pretty interesting, IMO.
It's not like he offered up this tweet out of the clear blue.
Yeah, but why answer the question now when he never has before? It looks pretty telling to me.
Stop over analyzing what they are doing on Twitter.
I'm not over analyzing, just noticing trends.
That is called overanalyzing. Twittering with teens is creepy. Leave it be and cheer for the basketball team.
Twitter's the tea leaves of the 21st century, and there's no such thing as over analyzing them.
like a complete tool in trying to recruit these kids to Michigan.
Could this be our old friend Chet at work (and by friend I mean creep who thinks he plays a major hand in UM recruiting)? I have to agree that people doing this really is offensive to me.
With michigan....and I'm a tool...got it! I will consider how you think of me next time i tweet.
So is the OL news about a current or potential commit?
So you're telling me that RDT might still be right?
My SEC sources are telling me he is a lock.
whatever happened to that guy?
He grew some boobs and goes by the name Kate now.
No but really, can someone explain what happened to him?
He just told you.
Kate was the third incarnation. RDT had two accounts and a second user name and used them to praise and upvote himself. He was outed when he tried to respond as RDT when using his other account.
WolverineInABag changed his/her name to MGoCooper. Strange
Job safe? Wondering if he'll be fired, he's made some bone-headed decisions and his team grossly under-performed ths year....
Haden's not firing him until the sanctions go through.
This running back news got me thinking...are any of the running backs we are in on (pretty much Derrick Green) or our outstanding commit that everyone seems to forget about, Deveon Smith, planning on enrolling early?
Ty Isaac was planning on enrolling early. In other news, I haven't had to access that piece of information in a very long time.
Smith is basically Thomas Rawls, but maybe with a bit more power.
Running backs enrolling early is pretty overrated.
And what are you basing this on? Just because they have a similar build? Not every 5'11" 225lb running back is Thomas Rawls (who still might be a very good running back for us).
Stop reading tweets. This isn't news, of course he wouldn't say ohio considering he dropped them and still has us as one of his favorites.
You need a vacation or something. You're far too uptight, like all of the damn time. It's a fan board, and fans follow twitter (novel concept). I don't think you'll lose any sleep over what he posted. I generally like your contributions, but you could stand to scale it down a couple notches. How about you take the next few plays off, champ?
Shouldn't you make sure some scarred high school student isn't slowly killing off pieces of your soul?
Great wi-fi up here.
There have been many a post by mods about twitter and not taking everything on it as news. What he posted was not news.
Did i say it meant anything ? Did i start a thread about it ? I just thought it was a nice little tid-bit with him pulling for Michigan...And i don't follow him on twitter, it was mentioned on one of the recruiting websites yesterday...Thanks bro.
This means nothing.
This tweet was from yesterday. So it was probably more of a game prediction. And taking that OSU isn't recruiting him, why wouldn't he pick Michigan.
We need elite talent at RB and WR. I will take whoever will come our way. Heck, I would take both Isaac and Green, but I do not think either are likely. We have not landed any elite position players that were not die hard UofM fans growing up. This is still a concern and should be noted if we are going to contend for B1G championships and compete nationally. I want this program to be a national power and do it the right way. We are going to need elite talent to do so. So far, we have not shown the ability to develop position players, although, it has only been two years.
Part of your rant is the last part..."although it has only been 2 years." It's like you talked yourself off the edge and realized you don't become a national power over night. These "elite" players you seek have grown up during the time when Michigan was basically a cellar dweller during RR years...it is going to take some time my friend....
Development has been fine, just don't have the elite athletes there yet. Gallon, Dileo, etc. have come along nicely.
Yeah, by the end of the season it seemed like we'd transplanted Avant's hands on Gallon. He'd have the corner hanging off him, the safety spearing him, and 70% of the time he'd pop up with the ball.
Although I think by the end of the year he was also playing injured. He was real slow to get up a number of times.
With USC's disappointing year plus Kiffin's blatant idiocy (press conference tantrums, under inflated footballs, 1yr Tennesee debacle, etc), the guy is a ticking time bomb. If my child were contemplating his team, I certainly would steer him away. I'm hopeful the Isaacs are doing the same. Complete speculation, I know, but I'll be watching this with keen interest.
FWIW, ESPN has a stub title on their recruiting site saying Wilkins was reconsidering his committment to Auburn after the Chizik firing. Obviously, neither party was the others first choice in the last go around, but maybe we'll re-enter the ring if we really feel like we're struggling to get the right RB.
You Twitter stalkers are weird.
If I was Hoke, I would encourage top tier recruits (Green, Treadwell, McQuay, Issaic) to commit during their all star game. This creates tons of program hype and great publicity. You can bet that every well known junior recruit is watching those games.
So I guess what I'm saying is that they're all silent commits. Don't worry.
Oh come on, we don't need him! Remember, Fred Jackson says Rawls 'runs angry'and is better than Mark Ingram. Our RB situation is A-OK!! Is Vincent Smith returning for his 7th season?
I am sure he will say Deveon has feet of Chris Perry and the running style of A-train
Our RB situation is fine. However we need the hogs up front to create the holes for them.
but have you been watching any games this year? I mean, there is no question our O-line has been well below par but the RB's haven't shown a lot either. Rawls specifically has been a disappointment IMHE as he was supposed to be one of those backs who breaks tackles and and run through defenders. I have been amazed at how a back of his size goes down on first contact virtually everytime.
We have Fitz for one more year (and who knows how he will respond after his injury) and that is essentially it. How on earth could someone look at oour running back situation and say it's fine? After Fitz we have zero proven commodities at RB and given the injury he just sustained we can't even count on him being his old self for sure. That is not a situation I would characterize as fine, but that's just me.
Deveon seems hard to take down. If he has the ability to slow down the game and find a hole he could be a good back.
Considering that Joliet Catholic doesn't churn out top talent regularly makes me think there's some interest. On a side note, Treadwell's recruitment has remined me of Isaac's. Lots of visits here, but no commitment.
What are you talking about? Joliet Catholic is one of the biggest powerhouse football schools in the state of Illinois.
Expect a lot of USC commits to go up for grabs.
ND is back in the mix for Isaac, as well.
Do you have a bases for this info?
We have 1st and 3rd base on this. Still working on 2nd.
I reading on the Michigan Recruiting HQ from someone that goes to his school and knows Ty says that Ty Issac is looking for a school that will offer him cash under the table, aka Pay to Play. For some reason he thinks Michigan may budge this time. I highly doubt they will, though. The focus should be on Green.
All I have to say to this is LOL.
This post is horrible in every conceivable way.
Any chance that this kid also knows Ty Isaac?
Congrats. You earned it.
Us Michigan fans are so whiney lol.
He's tired of Michigan fans over-analyzing his tweets and responding to them
he means he has a mean headache out of the blue (ie out of nowhere) and he's ready to take some medicine to knock him out
Or we could continue to overanalyze every last character he puts onto twitter
Or you could catch the sarcasm in the post
Sometimes, on the internet, sarcasm is hard to read.
This is not one of those instances.
dgreen was clearly being sarcastic.
We'll see but gotta think it will be hard for him to ignore everything ND is offering.
While the staff is in Illinois it would be nice if they stopped by Crete to re-establish the love with Treadwell. There's only about 30 miles between the two and unless there is info they have otherwise, it certainly couldn't hurt. Reports that he was slipping with us are sad. Reconnecting with the original Illinois trio (LTT being the 3rd from way back) and trying to bring them full circle to Michigan together would be tremendous!
make up for the loss of Conley?
commence the speculation and then the subsequent hate this kid will receive from people if he doesn't flip his commitment
Not sure what the coaches are thinking, but he has great upside at WR based on his junior film.
If I were a recruit and seen Jabba The Hut (Al Borgnine Borges) and his dreadful playcalling I would run, Dave Brandon please bring in a competent OC!!!
First, coaches don't just drop by a player's house and barge in. The player/family invite the coaches to visit and talk. Dad gets his questions ready and Mom serves tea & biscuits, and then Dad clams up and Mom grills the coaches.
Second, coaches obviously attend because there is even a slight chance to persuade the recruit - but often the coaches have a relationship with the parents and HS coaches that they respect enough to spend a few hours talking to build goodwill at worst.
Someone in the Isaac family isn't 100% sold on USC and maybe Hoke will persuade them. Coaches aren't there for tea and biscuits.
They prefer scones and lattes.
Maybe Lane Kiffin does, but I'd like to believe that Brady Hoke says "No, thanks" to anything but donuts and black coffee.
I can see Brady graciously trying anything and then genuinely chatting with Mom about her recipes and all her family traditions. He probably has his wife's pizza recipe on cards as a leave behind.
Then he asks Dad for directions to the closest diner for Manfood!
Likes Five Hour Energy and deviled eggs. Real talk.
Hunt. Isaac. There must be some other late targets that could surprise us and someone can enlighten us.
For example what about Reschke? He is obviously another committed target who recently surfaced.
Isaac reconsidered when he saw the crappy, rainy weather for the USC vs UCLA game. He figured he might as well stay closer to home if he has to play in that mess.