Im not sure how to link but on Sarah Hughes twitter page she said Walker and Garner have been told they are full at db,but Fuller(Garner's teammate) will still visit this weekend. Take it for what it's worth but Sarah usually spot on with the these things.
Michigan full at db. Garner and Walker not visiting.
And will she post this info/details on a site?
They had great coverage of the adidas invitational, so there's probably good stuff on their web site, relating to that.
Who is this Sarah Hughes character? I've seen her report things incorrectly and she seems like she creeps on the recruits a little bit..
I think you might mean Clara Hughes. Canadian speedskater and cyclist, won gold medals in both sports I think.
Yeah, he's probably thinking of Canadian cyclist Clara Hughes rather than US figure skater and Olympic gold medalist Sarah Hughes.
Things change and information becomes out-of-date, therefore inaccurate. I've never seen her post anything that is truly false and from everything I have seen she has been good.
But you don't deny the creeper charges.
I honestly think that she has a crush on Shane Morris...
So do half of the posters around here.
...and if he wins a Heisman, it will become a life long love affair.
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You say that like we should be ashamed
I don't know how you can find and link this kind of thing, but following the adidas invitational on Saturday, a really funny thing happened.
Sarah had been saying that Jourdain Lewis is taller than Scout and some other web sites are saying. Some snarky types starting dogging on the quality of her reporting. Meanwhile, Kyle Bosch, Shane Morris, and Jourdain Lewis were driving in a car together. They pulled over and took a pic of Shane and Jourdain standing back to back, and vindicated her. She tweeted it.
Pretty funny, and you can probably find it on twitter somehow.
She's legit. She contacts recruits and writes about it? That's far from creeping...
Just another fan with a blogspot.
She has a legit football recruiting blog. I don't see how that's any more "creeping on recruits" than Ace, Aquaman, or Magnus... could it be because she's a woman?
just the fact that you put "legit" and "blog" in the same sentence. I wholeheartedly respect the integrity of THIS blog, but anyone can start one.
might creep on the recruits a bit, but I like how she helps them when some people from other universities send rude tweets. I've seen her call on #WolverineNation to successfully get jerks to backoff a couple of the kids.
a) Someone is a silent commit
b) The coaches feel really good about either Fuller, Cravens, or another elite.
c) The coaches are using the potential DB scholarship for another position, likely on the D line, and that Fuller or Cravens would be using one of the "best available" scholarships.
I'm hoping that this might mean that the coaches are feeling good about our current younger DBs and that they no longer feel the need to stockpile players in that position.
She writes for Hoke's Mad Magicians. And the recruits contact her directly, so I'm not sure that she is creeping on them . . .
hope anyone who's read it likes the name, because yours truly, MichFan1997, named that site.
I like it!
*In before the trolls* shoulda bought an Apple derp derp
Seriously Android is loads better than any iOS device.
I love my apple laptop and my android phone but I'm no expert.
Both are DBs. Buzz is that they were told that we are full at DB. If that means we have a silent commit, or just have good enough DBs already is what some people are speculating on now.
Who would the silent commit be? I can't remember having any DB's visit recently who are uncommited now (to us or another school).
I have no idea either. Tremendous has an article that they are going to expand on. In it, they point out that Mathis' experience at adidas blew him away, and that some of the other Cali kids are paying notice, including Michael Hutchings. given that Sua Cravens is Mathis' cousin, that would help with him.
But the real answer is no, I have no reason to think we have a silent commit, or anything even similar at the DB position.
I kind of wonder about this, myself. Is it damaging to relationships if they tell players they're full at a given position then accept a commitment later on. I'd imagine if it were a super-highly-rated player, it's kind of hard to be mad at, but I'd love to know if there's some concrete logic about this.
Is it possible that "full" might also mean "secure in the prospects we currently have?"
Full at CB but yet Fuller is still visiting? Something doesn't add up. Do You think Fuller is a silent commit? Fuller seemed to be high on Va. tech... Go Blue
No. At a certain point a position becomes best available. Does it really hurt to miss on Fuller and Cravens? Answer is no. If we didn't take another secondary player in this class we would be just fine. TE was handled the same way as is LB. Levenberry would be nice but not a huge miss. WR and DT are the only remaining positions of need in this class.
I am 99.9999999% (repeating of course) percent sure it is not Fuller. For one, he hasn't visited campus yet. Another reason, despite Michigan being a serious contender, is he is still considered a VT lean. It just would add up.
The reason why Fuller is still visiting is he falls under the category of "elite-level talent". Blue-chip players like that will very very rarely be turned away by coaches for visits, on the chance that they like to commit. Our class will likely have one, maybe two, 'luxury-slots' to fill with a recruit who is very highly touted, yet not at a position of need (like Cravens or Fuller). So that's why he is still visiting. However, that'd be totally awesome if he was a silent commit, but it's extremely unlikely.
No. If Fuller is a silent commit right now, I'll eat Brian as he eats a lemon and streams it here (assuming that Brian's on board with that).
Pretty sure Brian isn't on board with that. He is a married man fergodsakes.
Read above posts.
This sounds like it should be pay-per-view in a cheap motel.
I knew that Walker cancelled last week and I also heard that Hicks was told by the coaches not to visit. This is the first time I have heard that Garner is not visiting. This makes it seem like we are definitely done at DB, but it is interesting that Fuller is still visiting.
The situation is interesting, during the time that these three CBs scheduled visits we had two CBs already committed. These guys are canceling their visits but nothing has changed. The coaches must be wanting to use that spot on another position or are liking their chances with a more highly-rated DB.
In this case 'full' means 'full for you' and not full for cravens or fuller.
It might be that after spring ball, the coaches have a better sense of where they stand depth wise. Some players may have stepped up their game, or players who they thought might transfer no longer look like they will. So with a reduced number of scholarships to recruit for, they may have shelved CB recruiting for the 2013 class. They will take a couple DL, a couple WRs, and from there I assume they will go for elite players to fill the last 2-3 spots. Among thsoe are probably Levenberry, Cravens, Fuller, Isaacs, Vanderdoes, Mathis, Hutchings(apparently interested again after this weekend), Bosa, and any of the other top 30 recruits the staff has been after.
Sarah just tweeted that, according to UMHoops, Amedeo Della Valle is visiting this weekend. There is a paragraph on their site for anyone who wants to go take a look.
This is just my own impressions but I followed Tom over to Wolverine Nation and I think everyone would agree that along with Sam Webb, he's plugged into the recruiting scene better than anyone else. What I'm saying isn't verbatim so I'm not sharing premium content, it's just an impression you get if you pay attention to the subtleties of his language.
I think the coaches' idea of what they need/want from a class is pretty fluid and depends a lot on how they feel about certain prospects and their chances with them. So although everyone hears that they're telling kids "we're full" and their eyes get wide about a silent commit, I think a couple things might be going on. First of all, they are mostly happy with the prospects that they already have in the class, which is Lewis and Conley of course, and second, they feel good about their positioning with some other prospects at a position of need. So most likely, some stuff on their board has changed and they're playing along with it to maximize the value of the class overall. They would still take a corner if it were someone like Fuller or Willis, because that would maximize the value of the schollie, but if someone from some other position takes it they would feel better about it than if they had given it to a DB prospect that is lower on their board.
The other trouble I have with all the silent commit speculation that comes up everytime we hear that a recruit has been told we are full at a position is... why would one commit silently?
Can someone closer to the process explain the potential reasons or benfits of silently committing? Is that equivalent to a "soft verbal?" I guess I would just worry that if a recruit said, "Hey coach, I want to commit to your program, but please promise that you won't tell anyone bceause I'm not going to tell anyone either." Seems like that's much easier to back out on...
What is the exact definition of "silent commit"? Are we saying that they verballed to the coaches, but they just don't want to make the announcement yet? Seems like that would be more of an "unnanounced commit", but I am probably just being nitpicky . . .
If we pull in Cravens or Fuller, we're gonna be pretty loaded in the secondary considering our classes the last couple years. Depth is nice!
Seems to make sense... two highly rated corners and one elite safety already committed, and we have a shot at 3 very highly touted / best-available guys in the secondary (Cravens, Hargreaves, and Fuller). With our decent depth in the secondary (gasp!) this seems to make sense on its face. Goes to show you can't sit on a Michigan offer for very long any more, because someone will take the spot if you don't...
Am I the only one a little bothered by the "Don't visit, we're full" additude (provided that is, exactly what they are saying). Considering how fluid recruiting is and how unpredictable roster management can be in college, wouldn't it be smart to let them visit anyway, and just say "Right now, we're full at your position, but things can always change throughout the year. You are welcome to visit, but just know that right now we would not be able to accept a committment if you chose. Pehaps in the future but not right now." The only advantage of not visiting at all is that you can focus on other recruits and get an early start on the 2014 guys. Our early start on the 2013 class really helped us for this class.
You're completely right. We should be totally worried about Hoke and Co.'s recruiting methods.
Can you ever be happy about anything?
I haven't seen the twitter action to know if the coaches told them not to visit, but generally speaking, did it not occur to you that the recruits might be cancelling the visits? If you were a recruit, wouldn't you reconsider using your family's resources to visit a school if they told you they were full?
Some recruits at positions we're full have still visited. Others come hoping for an offer that they aren't getting. Being told their offer is no longer commitable is enough to change most visit plans. Don't you think the coaches know enough about recruiting to do things the way you suggest?
I'm sure that no one is a silen committ. I'm sure they just dont' want another DB in this class. Their are obvious exceptions for elite talent(cravens, fuller, etc), but other than that they would rather use the scholarships in other areas.
Why hello there!
First, I'd like to say thanks to all those people who backed my credibility, that is much appreciated. Second, I don't appreciate being called a creeper for doing what anyone in my position does :)
Thanks guys! If you have questions, feel free to ask me...
And no, I don't have a crush on Shane Morris, I am a worried woman... ;)
Worried? Is that better or worse than married?
Haha MARRIED. Typo.
Why do you care about what people have to say about you. What you did on twitter earlier this morning was very very unprofessional. Handle yourself with some class you're representing the the University of Michgan Fergodsakes !!!!!
Yah I saw that too on twitter. Don't give in to haters and flame back. That just gives them followers they don't have. If you don't respond know one ever knows about them. Plus you represent Micheeegan.
tomvh reported this in a chat earlier. Sarah Hughes seems to mostly report information from other insiders. Not saying thats a bad thing.
Haha I messaged Walker, but thanks. And I always cite.
Sometimes you do. Other times you don't. No sense getting into a big thing though. He was just making an observation.
Paid information is bound to hit the internet sooner rather than later. It is such an unfortunate business model, but I am sure that Tom would love that people credit him for his stuff at the very least. He does make his living at this.
Not too surprising if true, we have 16 and seemingly will (expect? Hope?) add at least 2 DLs, 2 LBs, a WR and a RB. That's 22 and we could be full. but even if we're not we could take another DL, another WR, a TE or even an OT.
They never offered me....(sighs)
She's working hard...for free...give her some credit.
If any of you want to question her than why don't you post your credentials. I dare you to try to match sources and degrees.
Don't forget about Levenberry, who's visiting this weekend.
Gedeon committed already. That's what's up with him. I remember when someone said he was a silent commit... I remember when the coaching staff told others at the LB position that they were full and not to visit, with only 1 LB officially committed. I trust the coaches with their methods. Seems to have worked so far.