OT: The Tigers need some better relievers.
Michigan Football Legends
And yes, the Tigers bullpen is a joke.
Another joke? The Tigers offense. For something that's supposed to be a team strength, they've been struggling a lot lately. Getting 2 runs against the Mariners is not acceptable
Well alrighty then.
He certainly illustrated the diversity of the word.
You misspelled your name, there is an extra "i" before the last "L".
Next comment like that gets the banhammer, sir. Tread carefully.
Or because he's an asshole?
We'll go with the latter, though the grammar was rather offensive as well.
I can't tell if you're drunk or just an asshole, but either way. I never said the bullpen was off the hook, blowing a 2-run lead in the bottom of the 9th blows. But considering the opponent, and how well Fister was pitching, it should have been more than just a 2-run lead, like a lot more
I'm still laughing. I wonder what it's like to be that pissed.
Jake Long, guy was so good, UM had to create a statistical category for him
The only player from Michigan to be taken #1 overall in the draft
Carter is another obvious choice. The 1 jersey could end up pretty crowded.
Probably less obvious since he was arrested three times for beating up his wife.
Yea probably would be a lot easier to honor him if he only lived on the football feild. i hate being reminded that legends of my childhood were real people with flaws and stuff.
Yeah, the #1 jersey, I don't think that should ever be tagged as legendary. Wearing that number is an honor in itself.
Yale Van Dyne. Obvious pick.
I certainly appreciate the invaluable insight of Russ.
Perhaps Gerald Ford?
I'm not in favor of honoring people that achieved major success after Michigan (Tom Brady). Gerald Ford is the exception.
All you need is the first name. Charles.
all of the retired numbers, then Woodson. The biggest question is how to handle the #1 jersey and what is the standard from this point forward.
I don't think the Legends honor is for retired numbers. The whole point of the legends patch is to avoid retiring more numbers. If the number is already retired, that is a greater honor (and since no one is wearing it, what would the point be of adding a patch?).
What is your favorite song of all time?
I prefer people be confused when Grand Marques rolls up.
For some reason, these parts always kill me:
Super Flanker, John Kolesar
of under-appreciated Michigan legends.
Dominant in college and pro.
I think we're 1 year away from throwing Denard in there. He gave us great rivalry memories (crossing fingers for that MSU win this year) through one of the more uglier coaching campaigns in our history. Stayed when things got tough, and maintained a great personality and character. Even if he doesn't go on to have a career like Brady or Long, I think he'll be remembered whatever happens.
The Wistert Brothers
"Probably has been discussed before"
Harmon, Woodson, Oosterbaan, Wistert brothers, Ford, Kramer.
1. Free up retired number.
2. Unelected meh POTUS.
Fair enough. I guess I wanted to be more conservative with the "Legend" patch distribution, but I also don't want to see it only go to skill position players.
Come on bro'
Where is the love?
Leader of the free world and all that!
Oh wow...I meant no disrespect Mr. President. I just didn't think you were a legendary football player.
I am, however, a fan of your appointment of Justice Stevens, because I'm a law nerd like that.
OMG! THE FORMER PRESIDENT REPLIED TO ME ON MGOBLOG!!!
Ricky Leach. All-time favorite player bar none.
The guts and glue of the Maize and Blue. He's not quite my favorite bar none, but he one of my favorites.
How is David Cone not a lock for recognition?
But seriously, the obvious ones are Harmon and Woodson. I don't think Denard, as great as he is, has had an accomplished enough of a career to warrant recognition (absent winning the Heisman this year). Probably no need to consider anyone who has had their number retired, either, since that's a greater achievement than having a patch sewn onto a jersey in your honor.
in lieu of retiring his number. I think we need to look to the retired numbers and how that is going to mesh with the Legendary tag before we start looking for other legends.
Even though he has been a much better pro than college player, I think we need to go ahead and claim Mr Thomas Brady.
Michigan football legend?
I think that has to be part of it. He is a Michigan man and at that he is a legend!
First, +1 for a nice straight-forward post that's on-topic.
Second ... just curious ... Anthony Carter is not on that list. Oversight, or did you consider him and determine you'd not include him?
I have reservations about one guy, and overlooked another.
First, I have reservations about Anthony Carter. I agree that he was an incredible receiver. I'll never forget attending the game with Indiana that he pulled out of the fire, so to speak. However, there are two things I would comment on:
- I don't know what to do with the number 1, given that this has been held by several players, and is now endowed (is that the correct term?) by Braylon Edwards. In a sense, number 1 honors multiple legends.
- There were ugly comments above about AC's personal life choices. I don't know, nor do I really care to know, the validity of the charges made. Having said that, it gives one pause.
The oversight for me is Willis Ward. Reading about what he did, and what he went through, his speed and skill and his role as a trailblazer, makes me want to call him a legend. I would add him to the list. He is Michigan's own Jackie Robinson, someone for whom we can be proud.
Having read about how some numbers were set aside, I think precedent has already been set in honoring someone who has just graduated from Michigan, regardless of what they do in the NFL. Here is a hypothetical situation (highly hypothetical, at that.) If Michigan went undefeated this year, if Denard was clearly the reason this happened, and Denard had tremendous stats, and Denard won the Heisman, well, then I think Denard should be a legend, even if he never played a second as a QB in the NFL.
Tshimanga Biakabatuka, aka Tim
His performance against Ohio is the best iv ever seen!
He wasn't just some guy on the team who happened to become president. He was one of the best players on two of our national title teams and was an All Star.
Sure, he got his number retired after he became president. It's not as though he sucked and they just gave it to him because of what he did afterwards.
70s...Rick Leach-O. Dwight Hicks-D
80s...Anthony Carter and Jim Harbaugh-O. Mike Mallory and Mark Messner-D
90s...Desmond Howard,Tom Brady, Brian Griese, Jarame Tuman,Tyrone Wheatley and Tshimanga Biakabutuka-O. Charles Woodson and Glenn Steele-D
00s...Braylan Edwards,Mike Hart and Chad Henne-O. Brandon Graham and Allen Branch-D
10s...Denard Robinson and Fitzgerald Toussain-O. Mike Martin-D
Anthony Carter made the #1 jersey what it is. The great WRs since had the priveledge of wearing Carter's jersey, plain and simple. If AC had worn the #88 jersey then Braylon, David, Derrick, and Greg would have wanted that to wear #88.
It's hard to ignore Carter's off the field issues, but I would still argue that the #1 jersey will forever be his. I would also argue that if not for those issues Carter would have received the "legend" honor before Howard (who is my all-time favorite Wolverine).
Completely agree. I was in high school when AC was at Michigan and saw his feats first-hand. Yes, Desmond Howard won the Heisman, but as a whole body of work AC is the gold-standard for receivers/kick returners in the 35 years I've been following Michigan football.
to relink your own post?
I hope not.