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May 8th, 2012 at 9:55 AM | Pro football hall of fame? (Score:3 Normal)
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No question.

Michigan football legend?

No way.

Love & Hate are horns on the same goat.

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May 8th, 2012 at 11:05 AM | I think that has to be part (Score:1)
AlphaBlue
Joined: 05/28/2011
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I think that has to be part of it. He is a Michigan man and at that he is a legend!

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May 8th, 2012 at 9:51 AM | Two parts: unretire numbers, add new legends numbers (Score:3 Normal)
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In setting legends, first you need to “un” retire (reactivate) the “retired” numbers:
 
Kramer TE 87
Oosterbaan WR 47
Ford C/LB 48
Harmon RB/K 98
Wistert OT 11
 
Then we add the following “legends:”
Howard WR 21
Woodson DB 2
 
Anyone else?
Long OT 77
Woodley DL 56
Brady QB 10
 
My preference: from the last list:  add at least one defensive lineman and one quarterback. That would allow there to be at least one “legend” for virtually every position group.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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May 8th, 2012 at 10:32 AM | First, +1 for a nice (Score:1 Overrated)
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First, +1 for a nice straight-forward post that's on-topic.

Second ... just curious ... Anthony Carter is not on that list.  Oversight, or did you consider him and determine you'd not include him?

Midwestern born and raised ... now living in the heat of the Arizona desert

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May 8th, 2012 at 1:25 PM | One reservation, one oversight (Score:0 Overrated)
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I have reservations about one guy, and overlooked another.

First, I have reservations about Anthony Carter. I agree that he was an incredible receiver. I'll never forget attending the game with Indiana that he pulled out of the fire, so to speak. However, there are two things I would comment on:

  1. I don't know what to do with the number 1, given that this has been held by several players, and is now endowed (is that the correct term?) by Braylon Edwards. In a sense, number 1 honors multiple legends.
  2. There were ugly comments above about AC's personal life choices. I don't know, nor do I really care to know, the validity of the charges made. Having said that, it gives one pause.

The oversight for me is Willis Ward. Reading about what he did, and what he went through, his speed and skill and his role as a trailblazer, makes me want to call him a legend. I would add him to the list. He is Michigan's own Jackie Robinson, someone for whom we can be proud.

Having read about how some numbers were set aside, I think precedent has already been set in honoring someone who has just graduated from Michigan, regardless of what they do in the NFL. Here is a hypothetical situation (highly hypothetical, at that.) If Michigan went undefeated this year, if Denard was clearly the reason this happened, and Denard had tremendous stats, and Denard won the Heisman, well, then I think Denard should be a legend, even if he never played a second as a QB in the NFL.

"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi

 

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May 8th, 2012 at 10:18 AM | Chris (Score:1 Overrated)
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Chris Floyd

Tshimanga Biakabatuka, aka Tim

For my privacy, my new username is "non-Oriental non-Andrew"
 

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May 8th, 2012 at 10:30 AM | Touchdown Tim (Score:0 Overrated)
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His performance against Ohio is the best iv ever seen!

If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?

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May 8th, 2012 at 10:52 AM | Why Are People Bagging On Ford (Score:4 Normal)
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He wasn't just some guy on the team who happened to become president. He was one of the best players on two of our national title teams and was an All Star. 

Sure, he got his number retired after he became president. It's not as though he sucked and they just gave it to him because of what he did afterwards.

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May 8th, 2012 at 1:38 PM | My favorites from each of my decades as a Michigan fan! (Score:0 Overrated)
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70s...Rick Leach-O. Dwight Hicks-D

80s...Anthony Carter and Jim Harbaugh-O. Mike Mallory and Mark Messner-D

90s...Desmond Howard,Tom Brady, Brian Griese, Jarame Tuman,Tyrone Wheatley and Tshimanga Biakabutuka-O. Charles Woodson and Glenn Steele-D

00s...Braylan Edwards,Mike Hart and Chad Henne-O. Brandon Graham and Allen Branch-D

10s...Denard Robinson and Fitzgerald Toussain-O. Mike Martin-D

expect the best

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May 8th, 2012 at 3:19 PM | Speaking of Legends (Score:0 Overrated)
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May 8th, 2012 at 6:50 PM | Anthony Carter made the #1 (Score:2)
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Anthony Carter made the #1 jersey what it is.  The great WRs since had the priveledge of wearing Carter's jersey, plain and simple.  If AC had worn the #88 jersey then Braylon, David, Derrick, and Greg would have wanted that to wear  #88.  

It's hard to ignore Carter's off the field issues, but I would still argue that the #1 jersey will forever be his.  I would also argue that if not for those issues Carter would have received the "legend" honor before Howard (who is my all-time favorite Wolverine).

 

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May 8th, 2012 at 9:30 PM | Completely agree. I was in (Score:1)
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Completely agree. I was in high school when AC was at Michigan and saw his feats first-hand. Yes, Desmond Howard won the Heisman, but as a whole body of work AC is the gold-standard for receivers/kick returners in the 35 years I've been following Michigan football.

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May 8th, 2012 at 8:45 PM | Is it bad form (Score:2 Normal)
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to relink your own post?

http://mgoblog.com/diaries/who-would-be-michigan-football-ring-honor

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May 8th, 2012 at 10:16 PM | I hope not. (Score:2)
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I hope not.

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