Michigan Facilities Lacking

Submitted by Hard Gay on

This might seem mundane, but it's the off-season so whatever.

I'm taking summer classes at the University of Pittsburgh to get a little change of scenery and so that I have a better reason to root for Pitt in sports.  My first reaction from walking into a classroom was "Holy crap, this is much nicer than Michigan."  I'm accustomed to the depressing Dennison classrooms, complete with white walls, dull linoleum tile, chalkboards and chalk dust that coat everything, and as many desks possible squeezed into those small classrooms, each desk with just enough surface area to rest one arm and little else.  Contrast with Pitt classrooms, with their HGTV worthy interior design, marker boards, spaced out desks that have enough space to fit a textbook, notebook, and a laptop.  Needless to say, I'm insanely jealous and dread having to go back into that cursed Dennison building.

Now it comes time to get my swell on at the gym because this summer is about getting right both mentally and physically.  Of course, I decide to wear my Michigan t-shirt to properly represent and so everyone can see that people who go to Michigan are jacked and tan and they should aspire to be like us.  My first reaction to walking into the gym was "Holy crap, this is much nicer than Michigan."  I've experienced all the rec centers Michigan has to offer, but damn dude, it's ridiculous how much nicer the this Pitt rec center is.  There is so much more equipment and higher quality, too.  Plasma screen TVs adorn the walls and floor to ceiling windows provide some nice scenery. Also, unlike the CCRB, the weights and benches are not crammed together in some poorly ventilated, low-ceilinged room.  Added bonus is that the average Pitt female gym goer is more attractive than the average Michigan female gym goer. 

Walking around town, I come across Pittsburgh's Basketball Arena, the Petersen Events Center.  My first reaction when I see it is "Jesus Christ, Crisler arena is a cesspool compared to this."  Granted, the Pete is like brand new and Pitt is much better than us at basketball, but I could imagine being a D1 recruit and visiting Pitt vs Michigan, and the difference between the facility tours would be ridiculous.  If I were holding offers from both schools, it would be no contest.  I imagine most basketball arenas in the country are nicer than Crisler, and the fact that Michigan did not have any dedicated basketball practice facility makes me wonder how we landed any good recruits at all.  I'm sure the aesthetically pleasing qualities of the Pete are a pretty large factor in Pitt's basketball success,  as top recruits would rather play at a state-of-the-art arena like the Pete instead of a rundown gloomy building like Crisler.

These are only three of many aspects about Pittsburgh that are superior to Michigan.  I mean they might seem trivial, but I think it's kind of ridiculous that I'm paying significantly more tuition for a similar education and inferior facilities.  Maybe this is just Pitt being awesome, but I doubt it.  Maybe I'm just being a negative Nancy and should go change my diaper.  But while it's great to be a Michigan Wolverine, we're supposed to be the leaders and best and right now I'm pretty envious.  

Anybody else have experience with other campuses and how they compare?

bluesouth

June 30th, 2010 at 10:23 PM ^

wanting your school to look nice it's okay to like astehically pleasing living, study, and work spaces.  So when you go off into the world to make your bejillion dollars with your Michigan degree remember to endow your poor school with a nice new shiny building or two. So other poor deprived Michigan students will not have to suffer the indignities youv'e had to endure. And they will thank you, give you an honorary degree, and name the building after you.

GustaveFerbert

July 1st, 2010 at 9:47 AM ^

button and give the entire university a makeover. 

Facilities take time and money...and you need to understand what was once new and cool, does get older and dated.  Its life, it happens. 

If you really want to summer someplace else and get people pissed off, then perhaps talk about OSU's new union, new library, new rec center...But it takes money and goes in cycles.  Just use UM's football facilities for comparison... the Glick center was not always there...before that UM was getting pimped on about their facilities....But things changed.  You might just miss the timing of it.   And lest you forget, Pitts facilities were not always so nice and spiffy... Spent time on the campus in the 90's...your descriptions would not have fit then. 

Sometimes and for some folks, the grass is always greener.

 

Go Blue!

Shaqsquatch

June 30th, 2010 at 10:08 PM ^

What was that you were saying? I couldn't hear you over the sound of one of our grad schools being better than all of Pitt combined (aesthetically, that is):

Oh, wait, another one too:

Need I continue?

SysMark

June 30th, 2010 at 11:26 PM ^

Okay, so you're a law-quad football playing dude who hangs at the gym watching awesome widescreen TVs with only the hot looking babes, and who is so focused on his studies that he can recite the color and texture of the walls and floors of all the classrooms he has ever been in.

We get it.

SysMark

July 1st, 2010 at 12:20 AM ^

That's quite Latin of you, but generally irrelevant.

Enjoy your time at Pitt - seems you have found your match

EDIT: he substituted his original "ad hominem" for "personal"

may have felt in over his head in the classics...whatever

strafe

June 30th, 2010 at 10:26 PM ^

TV's in the gym are a good idea? Seriously? So now not only are you already taking up the squat rack by doing curls, but you're going to watch 10 minutes of sportscenter between sets?

thethirdcoast

June 30th, 2010 at 10:46 PM ^

...it sounds like the CCRB hasn't changed a bit since I arrived on campus in Sept. '97. That's a disappointment for all the people who reside on the Hill since the CCRB is in an immensely convenient location for those folks.

I also know that the interior of the Media Union (F that 'the Dude' garbage, and yes I realize Duderstat did a ton for the U and CoE) hasn't changed since '97. I have no idea how the U upgrades it without significantly disrupting the building's function.

VAWolverine

June 30th, 2010 at 10:49 PM ^

from their arena to their outgoing baseball field (Trees Field) which is a shit hole. 280' to left field and light poles in play in foul territory in right field. The Field is so unsafe the Big East gave them a directive to improve their baseball and soccer facilities, which they are.

Great night life in Pittsburgh though.

SysMark

June 30th, 2010 at 10:51 PM ^

Yeah your post is mundane, and ridiculous.  The University of Michigan has its resources invested in educational and research facilities and faculty second to none.  Sorry we can't do more for you with the widescreen TVs in the gym.

Not to be difficult but, frankly, as the parent of a daughter currently enrolled in the UM School of Engineering I find your comments obnoxious and idiotic.

Enjoy your summer down there.

MGoBender

June 30th, 2010 at 11:32 PM ^

FWIW: The University is beginning serious discussions on the Rec Sports Facilities. I was actually invited to take part in a special focus group to discuss what the University should consider as far as upgrades to the Rec buildings go.  This was the second major round table that was held.  The first was with general University officials.  This one was with an outside firm that is looking into the logistics of options.  Unfortunately I was unable to attend, so I cannot provide details.

However, from what I've heard, the CCRB would likely be on the chopping block (at least I really hope so) and we could be looking at a new state of the art facility if they take this route.  Don't get your hopes up, cuz this is the very beginning of what is probably a 10 year process.

The IMSB is a treasure of history.  Somehow it is also our nicest facility despite being the oldest. 

MichiganFootball

June 30th, 2010 at 11:51 PM ^

The biggest problem at U of M has got to be the gyms.  I think there was something in the Daily a while back and it said that in the Big 10, the only place with worse gym facilities is Penn State.  I'm glad that they are talking about starting to do something about it because the gym at U of M is nowhere near where it should be for a school of our stature.  I'll give you an example, but my sister went to Cal State Fullerton and they have have a great brand new gym that blows U of M out the water.  Cal State Fullerton should never beat Michigan at anything (except for maybe baseball).  But it's not just one school.  When I had the opportunity to visit different schools when I was applying to grad school, I was also struck by how much better their facilities were.  Probably the most disappointing thing about the new b school was that built a pretty sweet gym, that was only avaiable to b school students.  I can understand why you would want it that way, but its unfortunate because its much better than anything else we have on campus.

As regards to everything else, the school is pretty good at keeping things up to date and expanding when needed.  In the last few years we have gotten a brand new b school, new public policy school, and a new biomedical engineering school.  Going forward I know we have a new law school building on the way and I think the med school has got some stuff in the pipeline (A friend of mine who is Med School said they are also considering building a gym for just Med Students)

MDTCaptain

July 1st, 2010 at 5:54 AM ^

I'm not sure why people are focusing so much on gym quality.  IIRC, as a student I had access to all the rec sports buildings and the machines within them included with tuition.  That's a pretty good deal, even if they aren't state of the art.

I didn't realize that in addition to providing excellent academic resources and inspirational faculty, U of M also has the responsibility to help you get sexy in style.

Is it a nice benefit?  Yes.  But it is not (and should not) be top priority for the U, or for students.*

 

*OK maybe Kines students.

Mgobowl

July 1st, 2010 at 10:47 AM ^

I agree that the gym shouldn't necessarily be the top priority. However, with the cost of tuition as high as it is, the expectation is there for students to be receiving state of the art facilities for academics, athletics, and other extra curricular activities. Am I the only one that finds it odd that we don't always maintain our facilities? Instead we just renovate or rebuild when things are looking shabby. That doesn't seem like the best business model to me.

Mgobowl

July 1st, 2010 at 1:26 AM ^

And it was interesting to see what ideas they had. There are two trains of though. 1. Hve one centralized location or 2. Have multiple satellite locations. I think the current set-up with three buildings will remain with more classes being offered in other locations on campus ie. Pilates once a week in a res hall. There was a lot of discussion on the current use of space and how to better utilize what we have. My guess is there will be some esthetic and utilization changes in the near term with a complete renovation or new construction in the longer term. Any construction would be accompanied by a change in the fee structure. Students are only paying $35 on the year for access, with a small fraction of that reaching Rec Sports after maintenance costs.

MH20

July 1st, 2010 at 8:40 AM ^

The fact that your avatar is a Penguin holding the Stanley Cup (after defeating the Wings) is not helping your cause.