will be michigan's highest pick in a while
Michigan can take up to 7 more players in this class per Sam Webb
December 14th, 2012 at 3:25 PM | 
Just a logical question
Just a logical question
December 14th, 2012 at 4:12 PM |
There's a big difference
There's a big difference
There's a big difference between "Hey kid, you're not in our plan moving forward, so you won't have a scholarship next year" and "Hey kid, you're not in our plan moving forward, so if you'd like PT you might want to transfer but if you choose to stay you're welcome to finish out your degree."
The former is taboo around here. The latter (although I doubt it happens much) is fine, because the choice is up to the kid. I just don't think it happens much, because I doubt the coaches would try to push away a healthy, eligible football player for a recruit. Some kids don't do much of anything, and are then needed as juniors and seniors.
December 14th, 2012 at 4:34 PM |
This is a utopian blog. Our
This is a utopian blog. Our
This is a utopian blog. Our players never do bad things and our coaches would never do a thing like squeeze an unproductive player out. Other schools bad. Michigan good.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
- Vince Lombardi
December 14th, 2012 at 3:35 PM |
FWIW, there were rumors that
FWIW, there were rumors that
FWIW, there were rumors that Rocko Khoury was sort of squeezed out the door last year. I think this off-season will perhaps give us further evidence of what this coaching staff's approach is to guys who aren't contributing. Right now it's too early to tell, though.
December 14th, 2012 at 4:04 PM |
But Khoury had completed four
But Khoury had completed four
But Khoury had completed four years and had his degree, correct? That's common. Same thing happened with Terrence Robinson. Denying a fifth year is accepted everywhere, but getting "squeezed" after less than four years on campus is a different story.
December 14th, 2012 at 5:38 PM |
I did not hear that Terrence
I did not hear that Terrence
I did not hear that Terrence Robinson was squeezed out the door. From what I heard, he was just mentally ready take his degree and move on.
Yes, Khoury had completed his degree.
December 14th, 2012 at 4:14 PM |
Magnus, can you elaborate any
Magnus, can you elaborate any
Magnus, can you elaborate any further on these rumors?
The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure that it is right.
December 14th, 2012 at 5:41 PM |
It's nothing particularly
It's nothing particularly
It's nothing particularly insidious. I just heard that the coaches told Khoury that he would be sitting on the bench again in 2012, and they thought he would be better off moving on from football.
December 14th, 2012 at 8:02 PM |
Bell wasn't invited to
Bell wasn't invited to
Bell wasn't invited to practice due to roster limits...that is some evidence... though that has not happened with students the current staff recruited.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:11 PM |
I'm sure it's the players and
I'm sure it's the players and
I'm sure it's the players and not the coaches making the decisions to head elsewhere. Otherwise, guys like Mike Jones and Brandin Hawthorne and probably a handful of other kids would be gone already. The coaches don't have to give a kid a 5th year, but they'll let a kid stay for four if he wants to. Guys like Hopkins and Miller felt there was a better situation for them elsewhere, as many kids do at most schools every year.
Some kids (like Jones and Hawthorne) stick it out at Michigan because being there is more important than PT. Others feel they can get the most out of their college experience by transferring somewhere they can play. I don't blame them in either instance.
December 14th, 2012 at 3:35 PM |
Appreciate your
Appreciate your
insight. I am sure the coaches "do right by the kids" as much as possible.
Getting guys to see the reality of no playing time and their subsequent exit is usually best for the kid and the team. Many former players are playing a lot elsewhere.
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
December 14th, 2012 at 10:27 PM |
Correction
Correction
They HAVE to give a kid four years, as long as he stays eligible. Signing on the dotted line goes both ways.
December 15th, 2012 at 11:17 AM |
Starting with 2012 class
Starting with 2012 class
Michigan and several other schools just adopted the 4-year guarantee for NSD in Feb. I don't believe UM made it retroactive to prior classes. Freely correct if wrong.
Most schools still offer only 1-year schollies and some schools push out kids (my neighbor's kid here in Atlanta was told to declare his boo boo as career-ending or find a new SEC school).
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
December 14th, 2012 at 6:02 PM |
PLEASE DENARD DON'T LEAVE SO
PLEASE DENARD DON'T LEAVE SO
PLEASE DENARD DON'T LEAVE SO EARLY
December 15th, 2012 at 10:58 AM |
Doesn't it kind of screw up
Doesn't it kind of screw up
Doesn't it kind of screw up future classes when you take 29 players in one year? Shouldn't they ease their way back to full strength instead of doing it with one class?
December 15th, 2012 at 11:50 AM |
The nice thing about
The nice thing about
having these extra scholarships is the coaching staff can bank them if next year looks promising with players/needs or if they have some player/needs in this class they can use them up, good problem to have.
"I am excited to be with Brady and I am excited about where this program is headed" D C Coach Mattison
December 15th, 2012 at 12:28 PM |
Why "bank" them?
Why "bank" them?
All of the offerees are very capable of contributing (ie, we're not signing marginal guys) and 2014 class has minimal traction (ie, 5 stars are not clamoring for a spot). Those unused schollies just go to walk-ons for a year to meet 85 requirement.
There will be attrition before 2014, not to mention guys denied a 5th year, so plenty of spots for elite kids in 2014 and 2013 kids can redshirt
Roster needs bolstering as soon as possible with the thin talent from 2010 and 2011.
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson
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For 10 months the discussion has been 24-25 spots. Now Webb reports 7 or a new goal of 28-29. Maybe 1-2 boo boos will negate next season.
Our frosh performed very well at numerous spots and some seasoned guys were non-factors, which changes the depth chart and indicates older guys won't see playing time next year.
I guess the question of "squeezing" (ie, brutal honesty of no playing time and helping guys finding a better roster situation) is taboo around here.
"Everybody wants to be a hero, so to speak. But it takes everybody." - Charles Woodson