Wow
Hmm
Sounds like our long snapper might not have a scholarship after all.
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Pictures?
Pictures or it didn't happen.
I've heard this rumor a few
I've heard this rumor a few times, but I thought we came up with the conclusion that wasn't true and he did indeed have a full ride.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
We appear to have
We appear to have scholarships to spare, and so we would pull one from a guy that we've already promised one to?
Sure, that makes sense.
Depth isn't really as big of
Depth isn't really as big of a concern anymore, so I HIGHLY doubt we take 7 more. I'd say 3-4 is a more realistic number.
“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler
Well there are a few guys
Well there are a few guys leaving the team early, either for transfers or the chance at playing in the nfl. For example, Ricardo Miller is graduating early and will transfer to a Florida school so that opens a spot etc... Maybe Lewan is going to the NFL?
The Michigan difference...
TAKE IT BACK!!! Lewan isn't
TAKE IT BACK!!! Lewan isn't going...PLEASE
Would be nice if he stayed...
Would be nice if he stayed... I agree!
The Michigan difference...
Manti Te'o
It seems like it might work out for him.
It didnt work out for
It didnt work out for Lattimore...
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Marcus lattimore was only a
Marcus lattimore was only a Sophmore. He had to come back
If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant
You have to be three years
You have to be three years removed from high school to declare for the draft...
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
How about Barkley, he may
How about Barkley, he may have dropped out of top 10, would have been top 5 last year.
I doubt he would have been
I doubt he would have been top 5 last year since he would have still been behind Luck and RG3, but he would have gone to Miami at 8 or 9 instead of Tannehill. However, I still think you're right, since I wouldn't be surprised if he drops out of the first round this year. He's not a top pick talent, and the teams at the end of the first round don't need him. Maybe somebody trades up to get him at the end of the first round, but only then.
Te'o probably wasn't a lock
Te'o probably wasn't a lock to be a top-10 draft choice last year; Lewan only has so many guys he could pass. And with the salary structure in place, his signing bonus won't be as dramatically different if he's drafted #3 or #9.
Big Ten rules
In general, the 85 scholarships is the big limiting factor, and you can only enroll 25 per class in the fall. To get more, you need to have early enrollees. With the Big Ten, they'll let you go over the "cap" as long as you can show where the scholarships are coming from. Believe Minn had a class of 32 a couple of years ago.
Hot dogs are the devil.
I'd be surprised if we took 6
I'd be surprised if we took 6 linemen this year, or if we took Treadwell, or if we took another DT, or if we took 7 more players and none was a linebacker.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
Why would you be surprised
Why would you be surprised if we took Treadwell? I understand surprise to GET him now, but do you seriously feel if he would be turned away? I disagree. Think coaches feel he would be a perfect fit.
I can't tell if you're being
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not. If you are it's pretty funny. I'm more than certain the coaches would love to take the #1 receiver in the nation that they heavily recruited for so long. I would be surprised if he ended up as a part of our class at this point. He seems to be looking for something other than what Michigan offers him.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
I think
he was just taking issue with semantics. If Treadwell wanted in, we'd take him, but it's not looking great he'd come. The way the original person had it almost sounded like even if he wanted in, we wouldn't take him.
So it goes.
I probably shouldn't
I probably shouldn't introduce him to my friend The Grammar and Punctuation Nazi, then. It would be an epic battle, but they could be so evenly matched they'd be locked in a stalemate for all eternity, like Goliad and Stormo.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
Look - you're the one who
Look - you're the one who used the confusing verbiage. You said you'd be surprised if we took Treadwell, which certainly implies to me that it would be the coaches making that decision, not Treadwell.
It makes it worse when you come back defensive when you were the one who made the initial mistake. You look like a jerk when you respond that way to a person who misunderstood you're difficult to understand point. Just say you worded it wrong, and move on.
Actually, I was implying we'd
Actually, I was implying we'd kidnap him. Sorry if it confuses everybody, or if you mistook it for being pissy. I thought it was lighthearted. I even complimented him and upvoted him. Didn't think everybody around here was so sensitive. My bad.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
NBD. Just wanted a clearer
NBD. Just wanted a clearer understanding what you meant. Trust me, my job I get yelled at constantly by the frantic people.
Still love your avatar, turtle.
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Anyone else hear about the
Anyone else hear about the rumors about Burrows being unhappy with the addition of Conley into the OSU class? Maybe he is the mystery visitor?
No
No
If you don't like Michigan you are a peasant
Skipper
I thought Skipper was the mystery visitor. We can have Gardner and the Skipper, too!
Unhappy and "I'm going to
Unhappy and "I'm going to decommit because I'm afraid of a little competition" are two different things.
Not necessarily on the
Not necessarily on the interwebz.
Makes zero sense
Conley committed to them as a WR primarily IIRC.
5 Offensive Linemen
Its been reported, multiple times, that Hoke is only taking 5 linemen in this class.
There have been reports that
There have been reports that 6 may be in play now. Sam and TomVH have both mentioned it. I am guessing that depends on what Lewan does though.
Lewan
Likely has nothing to do with Lewan. Either way, Lewan will be gone after next year. These kids will almost certainly redshirt - true freshmen OL only play in the most dire of situations.
I wonder if there is any
I wonder if there is any truth to the rumor that Lewan will be replaced by some Voltron-esque uber-offensive lineman. If so, that would explain why the staff is so hellbent on signing at least 5.
He didn't think they would
He didn't think they would get 7 more, but said the flexibility is there if they happen to need it.
That's why I wrote "can take
That's why I wrote "can take UP to 7 more."
Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.
I know. I was just trying to
I know. I was just trying to say that he wasn't necessarily confident that they would need 7 spots.
Poorly stated. My fault.
Ah, ok
So that means like 8, right?
May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift
Whoa.
Has to be some major attrition expected to jump up to almost 7 along to go with some guys coming in January. I like the adjustments the coaching staff made from last year in getting more aggressive towards the end, not putting all their eggs in the same basket, and also having fall back options.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
22 commits now
6 potential EE
22 commits now
6 potential EE (3 count as part of 2012) = Class effectively currently sits at 19
Miller gone = Class effectively at 18
Lewan possibly gone = class effectively at 17
Major attrition not required. Only barrier is the 85 total scholly limit.
and dont forget Hopkins
said he has left the team too
O yeah, forgot about Hopkins.
O yeah, forgot about Hopkins.
If I say a duck can pull a truck, shut up and hook the sucka up!
There's also a second barrier
You probably know about this better than me. I honestly don't remember last years numbers, but as an example: if we took the max 25 players last year and none were early enrollees, then we couldn't list any more 2013 kids in the 2012 class. I didn't pay attention to last years final numbers, but I'm sure we had some room left, and/or some EEs that year, so we should have room to backdate a handful this year, but how many depends on the previous years class.
What I'm wondering is: how does losing a redshirt player like Ringer affect the 2012 numbers? Thinking if we lost him during his redshirt year would that mean we took one less 2012 player? If so we might be able to backdate 4.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
Unless Lewan gets completely & utterly clowned by Clowney
he's gone, given the projections of his likely draft position.
Not surprisingly, I don't
Not surprisingly, I don't like either of those options.
"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.
If three of those last names
If three of those last names are in Green, Treadwell, and McQuay I will be very happy.
Sheeeeit... I'd be happy with
Sheeeeit... I'd be happy with 1 of the 3.
Bears Beets Battlestar Galactica
Ok, 1 = Happy, 2 = Ecstatic,
Ok, 1 = Happy, 2 = Ecstatic, and all 3 is the best holiday present EVER!
Was not expecting 7 more. I assume this is due to the combo of back-dating '13 early enrollees and attrition?