The stated goal is a Big Ten Championship, not a share of a division.
Michigan can still win a share of the Legends Division
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nebraska beat us, thereby giving them the tiebreaker?
Is it because Ohio beat them, and we're going to beat Ohio tomorrow?
Yes they get the tiebreaker and thereby go to B1G CG. However, historically in the B1G, everyone who ties counted as the co-champ. In this case it is a divsion co-champ. I agree with the general "whoppee" reaction and it is not a motivating factor, but it still could turn out that way. Obvs, much better than losing.
Ok see I didn't know the technicalities of it, thank you for clearing that up.
Who gives a fuck about a division title?
All I care about is beating OSU.
Does that trophy come with a flux capacitor?
Obviously that division trophy doesn't mean much since Delaney let OSU be eligible to win it even though they're on probation. What a joke
Yes, OSU are still Leaders Division champs and will get a trophy thanks to Delaney
Not letting them go to the title game makes a lot of sense, but saying, "I know the division standings read, OSU 7-1, PSU 6-2, Wisconsin 5-3, but OSU totally didn't win the division because of NCAA violations with no bearing on the 2012 season" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
That said, yeah, I think saying that "Legends Co-Champs" is any kind of consolation prize is loser talk, and we as a fanbase should be way, way above that.
I'm guessing you're not going to buy a division championship t-shirt.
Division co-champ t-shirt.
Do you think at some point, with all of these new team additions, you'll be able to buy "Sectional Co-Champions" T-Shirts?
Our loss to Nebraska was really on the decision to not have Devin ready to go as a backup. It's hard to imagine anyone playing well on the fly in a tough environoment, but to not get Devin enough reps to step in was just irresponsible and frankly not fair to Bellomy. Change that, and I like us winning that game. Congrats to Nebraska, I like Wisconsin to beat them for the B1G championship.
That's a bit harsh I think. Devin had not shown any high level consistency in any game or even spring game at that point. The coaches took a gamble to get all of its best athletes on the field, and frankly pretty much everyone was of the thought that if Denard went down we were pretty much fucked no matter what. Devin's emergence may have taken them by as much surprise as it did everybody else.
Then Borges is one craptastic QB coach. and half the staff must be legally blind.
If you're drawing conclusions from press conferences and other occasions where the staff talks to the media, it's probably a load of crap. Because this staff tells the media jack shit. It's their right to do so, of course, but don't ever believe anything they say as far as personnel or injuries.
"If you're drawing conclusions from press conferences and other occasions where the staff talks to the media..."
He said the performances in the games before MN and the spring games. That is certainly something he could have observed. I don't see where he is drawing conclusions from press conferences.
Going into this year, the receiving corps was a mess after Stonum dismisal and don't forget Roundtree's injury. It was a gamble to put Gardner at receiver, but given the circumstances at the time and the desire to get a great athlete on the field, it was not necessarily a bad decision. Also, who knows what impact his stint at receiver had on his QB development via improved understanding of routes and prolonged exposure to game speed. Both of which he wouldn't have gotten as backup QB.
you either win the B1G title and go to the Rose Bowl or you don't. Beat Ohio!
*or you go to the Sugar Bowl and beat Virginia Tech. Beat Ohio!* There, fixed it for you.
do they give out participation ribbons too!!!
Just beat Ohio. Fuck the division and fuck the B1G.
I second that!
If you don't go to a Rose Bowl or a National championship game at Michigan it isn't good enough.
Who are we dude, Minnesota, we dont play for shares of divisions. Championships.
Minnesota doesn't really do that either.
Losers whine about their best (or being co-division champ). Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
Carla was the prom queen
B1G was ours for the taking this year. Makes me sick. Fuck Halloween
Hoke doesn't give a shit! Team 133 failed to win a BIG Championship. Lets kick those fuckers ass down south now and send the seniors off with a win. Go Blue
also play for a chance to be in a bcs bowl
Best news for me is that they are likely coming to Florida for a bowl game!
My guess: Wolverine Devotee was running out of time to get in his quota of one started thread per day, and this was the best option.
That's the only logical explanation I can come up with as to why anyone would care to point this out.
technically, ohio will win the leaders division this year, so division titles are not worth very much since neither of us could win the B1G. i kinda hope wisconsin wins the CCG just so the conference champ didn't win their division
I'm not shitting you, guys. We have a very real chance of earning the blue ribbon!
First place tie, baby!
I know their is optimism with the post, but teams without storied histories care about shared division titles; UM won't be playing the Rose Bowl, and that's all that matters. In fact, I would argue that, at best, the 3rd-best team in the conference will be playing for the title, and that's only if Nebraska wins. I still think both UM and OSU are better than either Nebraska or Wiscy when both units are reasonably settled.
I'd take that trophy and throw it in a vat of acid as I stared Bob Pelini in the eyes. I refuse to call that man Bo. He is no Bo, only bob.
Who cares? The only thing that matters is winning the conference.
Meh. Division championships don't mean shit if you don't win the conference.
I wish I could downvote you more.
But on the other hand, remember 2008 and 2009? We were wondering how much Ohio would beat us by. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we would be good this quickly. And 14-0 at home the last two years? Srsly, maybe my expectations are low, but I love how we are progressing as a football program....
At least we can cope with our 2012 season by saying we lost to the two teams that are going to play for the title, the team that won our conference, an undefeated team, and a one loss SEC team in the bowl game.
The Division is meaningless. Beating Ohio is all that matters. But there is a second reason to beat Ohio. They have a number of top recruits at the game...the most important of which is Deshawn Hand.
I just submitted this to the Athletic Department for consideration.
if we win tomorrow, I see us jumping into the top 14 with some reasonable breaks. Given our fanbase and history, I don't think a BCS at-large is out of the question.
It is out of the question because Texas A&M and Stanford rained on your parade.
NCG ND vs Bama
Rose Stanford vs Neb/Wisky
Sugar LSU vs Oklahoma
Orange FSU vs Louisville
Fiesta KSU vs Oregon
isn't a fair or accurate way of phrasing it. M has a fairly clear road to the top fourteen, and once eligible will be tough not to take (it's happened once in BCS history).
It is true, what you say. However, a 3 loss UM team from arguably one of the worst conferences for football this year is not going to get the nod over the likes of LSU, Oregon, KSU, Clemson.
then it's not already done with. Also, you're assuming Oregon doesn't win the Pac (they still can with UCLA pulling a mild upset at home), and I think you mean Oklahoma, not K-State. M is in over Clemson and possibly Oklahoma; a second SEC team isn't anything but a formality at this point, though.
Oregon is in no matter what, unless they lose again. Stanford has pretty much solidified its spot as well. And I mean both Oklahoma and KSU will be in it, unless of course they lose again.
In any event, you should concentrate on doing your job tomorrow.
But a 3 loss Stanford team isn't in. They lose today, and they not play for the championship, Oregon does. Oregon goes to the Rose, Stanford doesn't go to the BCS.
We didn't win the Big Ten Championship, that's what matters.
So do all the neggers just don't think we have anything to play for tomorrow? Jesus.
Michigan's first division championship, even without playing in the title game, is still a big deal. Pick your head up, I hope the team isn't as pathetic as the fan base right now.
So since we don't give a damn about shared titles, I suppose we should stop claiming the 1997 championship, right?
Seriously whatever recognition team 133 gets, they earned. Let em enjoy it or ignore it as they see fit