Despite not being able to go to the championship game, Michigan still has a lot to play for Saturday.
First and foremost, it's The Game. But Michigan also has the opportunity to win a share of the Legends Division and get a trophy.
It would be more of a historical accomplishment being it would be Michigan's first ever division championship.
Whoopee
Correct me if I'm wrong, but
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Nebraska beat us, thereby giving them the tiebreaker?
Is it because Ohio beat them, and we're going to beat Ohio tomorrow?
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
Yes they get the tiebreaker
Yes they get the tiebreaker and thereby go to B1G CG. However, historically in the B1G, everyone who ties counted as the co-champ. In this case it is a divsion co-champ. I agree with the general "whoppee" reaction and it is not a motivating factor, but it still could turn out that way. Obvs, much better than losing.
"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.
Ok see I didn't know the
Ok see I didn't know the technicalities of it, thank you for clearing that up.
A wise man speaks because he has something to say; a fool because he has to say something. - Plato
Who gives a fuck about a
Who gives a fuck about a division title?
COYS and lets go Detroit FC!
All I care about is beating
All I care about is beating OSU.
Does that trophy come with a
Does that trophy come with a flux capacitor?
Obviously that division
Obviously that division trophy doesn't mean much since Delaney let OSU be eligible to win it even though they're on probation. What a joke
what?
what?
Are you a park ranger at Yellowstone? Say hi to Yogi Bear for me. - the_big_house 500th
I may not be a 70 year old man. - Herm
Yes, OSU are still Leaders
Yes, OSU are still Leaders Division champs and will get a trophy thanks to Delaney
I don't know what the better option is...
Not letting them go to the title game makes a lot of sense, but saying, "I know the division standings read, OSU 7-1, PSU 6-2, Wisconsin 5-3, but OSU totally didn't win the division because of NCAA violations with no bearing on the 2012 season" doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
That said, yeah, I think saying that "Legends Co-Champs" is any kind of consolation prize is loser talk, and we as a fanbase should be way, way above that.
Go Blue!
Who cares?
Beat Ohio
Really?
I'm guessing you're not going to buy a division championship t-shirt.
"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk
Division co-champ t-shirt.
Division co-champ t-shirt.
"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.
Do you think at some point,
Do you think at some point, with all of these new team additions, you'll be able to buy "Sectional Co-Champions" T-Shirts?
No one but ourselves to blame...
Our loss to Nebraska was really on the decision to not have Devin ready to go as a backup. It's hard to imagine anyone playing well on the fly in a tough environoment, but to not get Devin enough reps to step in was just irresponsible and frankly not fair to Bellomy. Change that, and I like us winning that game. Congrats to Nebraska, I like Wisconsin to beat them for the B1G championship.
"... Just as Christian came up to the Cross, his burden loosed from off his shoulders, fell from off his back, and began to tumble down the hill, and so it continued to do till it came to the mouth of the sepulchre. There it fell in, and I saw it
That's a bit harsh I think.
That's a bit harsh I think. Devin had not shown any high level consistency in any game or even spring game at that point. The coaches took a gamble to get all of its best athletes on the field, and frankly pretty much everyone was of the thought that if Denard went down we were pretty much fucked no matter what. Devin's emergence may have taken them by as much surprise as it did everybody else.
If that's true
Then Borges is one craptastic QB coach. and half the staff must be legally blind.
If you're drawing conclusions from press conferences and other occasions where the staff talks to the media, it's probably a load of crap. Because this staff tells the media jack shit. It's their right to do so, of course, but don't ever believe anything they say as far as personnel or injuries.
No excuses. Play like a champion.
"If you're drawing
"If you're drawing conclusions from press conferences and other occasions where the staff talks to the media..."
He said the performances in the games before MN and the spring games. That is certainly something he could have observed. I don't see where he is drawing conclusions from press conferences.
Going into this year, the receiving corps was a mess after Stonum dismisal and don't forget Roundtree's injury. It was a gamble to put Gardner at receiver, but given the circumstances at the time and the desire to get a great athlete on the field, it was not necessarily a bad decision. Also, who knows what impact his stint at receiver had on his QB development via improved understanding of routes and prolonged exposure to game speed. Both of which he wouldn't have gotten as backup QB.
"Is There Anybody Out There?" Pink Floyd, The Wall.
Who fucking cares,
you either win the B1G title and go to the Rose Bowl or you don't. Beat Ohio!
If an OSU fan divorces his wife are they still brother and sister?
*or you go to the Sugar Bowl
*or you go to the Sugar Bowl and beat Virginia Tech. Beat Ohio!* There, fixed it for you.
How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon
sweet!
do they give out participation ribbons too!!!
GRwolverine73
Just beat Ohio. Fuck the
Just beat Ohio. Fuck the division and fuck the B1G.
Go blue Beat Ohio!
I second that!
"Everybody thinks of changing humanity, but nobody thinks of changing himself." - Leo Tolstoy
If you don't go to a Rose
If you don't go to a Rose Bowl or a National championship game at Michigan it isn't good enough.
903 wins most in college football
Who
Who are we dude, Minnesota, we dont play for shares of divisions. Championships.
THIS IS MICHIGAN
Well to be fair
Minnesota doesn't really do that either.
Losers whine about their best
Losers whine about their best (or being co-division champ). Winners go home and fuck the prom queen.
Carla
Carla was the prom queen
B1G was ours for the taking
B1G was ours for the taking this year. Makes me sick. Fuck Halloween
I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?
Ya Coach
Hoke doesn't give a shit! Team 133 failed to win a BIG Championship. Lets kick those fuckers ass down south now and send the seniors off with a win. Go Blue
also play for a chance to be
also play for a chance to be in a bcs bowl
-UM class of 2018
Best news for me is that they
Best news for me is that they are likely coming to Florida for a bowl game!
In Hoke we trust...
My guess: Wolverine Devotee
My guess: Wolverine Devotee was running out of time to get in his quota of one started thread per day, and this was the best option.
That's the only logical explanation I can come up with as to why anyone would care to point this out.
technically, ohio will win
technically, ohio will win the leaders division this year, so division titles are not worth very much since neither of us could win the B1G. i kinda hope wisconsin wins the CCG just so the conference champ didn't win their division
Knock Knock
Who's there?
ZACK NOOOOOOVAK
I'm not shitting you, guys.
I'm not shitting you, guys. We have a very real chance of earning the blue ribbon!
First place tie, baby!
Streaming UM games early Sunday morning from Korea, since 2007
I know their is optimism with
I know their is optimism with the post, but teams without storied histories care about shared division titles; UM won't be playing the Rose Bowl, and that's all that matters. In fact, I would argue that, at best, the 3rd-best team in the conference will be playing for the title, and that's only if Nebraska wins. I still think both UM and OSU are better than either Nebraska or Wiscy when both units are reasonably settled.
I'd take that trophy and
I'd take that trophy and throw it in a vat of acid as I stared Bob Pelini in the eyes. I refuse to call that man Bo. He is no Bo, only bob.
All in for some manball.
Who cares? The only thing
Who cares? The only thing that matters is winning the conference.
Meh. Division championships
Meh. Division championships don't mean shit if you don't win the conference.
It's been a lot. Its been a roller coaster that for some reason seemed like it would never get good. But you know what? We kept fighting. It's like that old saying goes, "Those Who Stay Will Be Champions." -David Molk
I wish I could downvote you
I wish I could downvote you more.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
- Vince Lombardi
Agree with everyone that it is not a big deal....
But on the other hand, remember 2008 and 2009? We were wondering how much Ohio would beat us by. Never in my wildest dreams did I think we would be good this quickly. And 14-0 at home the last two years? Srsly, maybe my expectations are low, but I love how we are progressing as a football program....
Seriously guys the B1G and BCS is out the window
At least we can cope with our 2012 season by saying we lost to the two teams that are going to play for the title, the team that won our conference, an undefeated team, and a one loss SEC team in the bowl game.
Visualizing the realism of life and actuality
Recruiting
The Division is meaningless. Beating Ohio is all that matters. But there is a second reason to beat Ohio. They have a number of top recruits at the game...the most important of which is Deshawn Hand.
...just one man's opinion.
awesome thread
Eh
if we win tomorrow, I see us jumping into the top 14 with some reasonable breaks. Given our fanbase and history, I don't think a BCS at-large is out of the question.
So it goes.
It is out of the question
It is out of the question because Texas A&M and Stanford rained on your parade.
NCG ND vs Bama
Rose Stanford vs Neb/Wisky
Sugar LSU vs Oklahoma
Orange FSU vs Louisville
Fiesta KSU vs Oregon
Out of the question...
isn't a fair or accurate way of phrasing it. M has a fairly clear road to the top fourteen, and once eligible will be tough not to take (it's happened once in BCS history).
Go Blue!
It is true, what you say.
It is true, what you say. However, a 3 loss UM team from arguably one of the worst conferences for football this year is not going to get the nod over the likes of LSU, Oregon, KSU, Clemson.
If what I say is true...
then it's not already done with. Also, you're assuming Oregon doesn't win the Pac (they still can with UCLA pulling a mild upset at home), and I think you mean Oklahoma, not K-State. M is in over Clemson and possibly Oklahoma; a second SEC team isn't anything but a formality at this point, though.
Go Blue!
The stated goal is a Big Ten Championship, not a share of a division.
No excuses. Play like a champion.
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