Dammit, you beat me to it. There's almost no way that Fuller ends up in Ann Arbor(he's been saying that Clemson and VT are his top schools for a few months now), so I'm pulling for Virginia Tech over Clemson.
You're probably right, however, Fuller is on the same team as Shane and Treadwell @ Gridiron Kings, and you never know...
(Actually, I am hopin' for a finish of Treadwell and Green, and if it works out McQuay.)
My thoughts on this thread. Good idea.
My rant. This will not work and there will be at least 10 other BBQ at the Big House threads this weekend.
I'm going to try and keep it to posting in every other and just the reading the rest.
And my bet is that BILGIN will call him a "sheep" after every single comment.
If there are ten other BBQ threads this weekend, chances are it's a pretty good weekend for Michigan football. Hopefully you can enjoy that despite your outrage over the great injustice that is multiple threads on one very important, relevant topic.
You are a poor judge of outrage. Just stating the facts Mr. Turd.
Only his friends call him Turd.
I originally was going to type Mr. Ferguson but typing Mr. Turd is more fun.
I just wanted to type "his friends call him Turd."
Dammit, stop making fun of me!! I thought we had to use our birth names when we signed up for MGoBlog accounts. Otherwise, I never would have chosen this.
"You changed your name TO Latrine??"
"Yeah, it used to be Shit House."
My mom used to work at MSU in the admin office. I'll never forget the day she came home from work and told us about the student named Latrina.
Just after reading this, I got a welcome email in my marketing life from someone named "Latrice." I'm glad it wasn't a phone call, because I never would have been able to explain why I was laughing so hard.
I'm gonna call him Turd.
Signed, M. Wolverine
It that because his friends know him best?
Because I've always thought we need to talk more PSU and less Michigan recruiting.
I was actually about to make pretty much this exact thread, but replacing the Green note with a note on Kendall Fuller:
I think this pretty much guarentees that we're out of the race for his services, and he will likely be choosing between VT and Clemson.
Obviously you can't pass on 5 star talent, but we really don't need another CB. Priority 1 - Treadwell, Priority 2 - Green.
mmm I wonder what they will be eating at the BBQ.
They will start with a Lobster Bisque and move on to a fresh Greek-style salad with a vinaigrette dressing. Next will be the main dish of either a honey lime chicken breast with grilled asparagus and mashed potatoes, or a roasted lambs shank with a wild rice and seasoned steamed broccoli (recruits choice). Finally they finish the meal with either baked alaska or a slice of tiramisu, again recruits choice.
I don't think so, my friend. The official soup of Michigan Football is clam chowder. No other soup will be consumed.
Clam chowda is behind lobster bisque in my book, both being behind the one and only French Onion Soup.
French Onion is the best, but Lobster Bisque is just behind my Cheesey Chicken and Tortilla Soup made extra spicy.
Like the concept though
My wife will put a little chopped, fresh cilantro on it, but I hate that crap so I won't put it in the soup beforehand.
In a stock pot, melt butter. Add onions and cook until sweated (transparent). Add the garlic and peppers and cook 2 to 3 minutes more. Add flour and cook 1 minute until the flour is slightly browning. Slowly whisk in stock and cream. Bring soup to a bubble and reduce heat to simmer. Stir in cheese and season the soup with salt, pepper, chili powder and cumin. Add the chicken and let soup reduce 10 to 15 minutes over low heat then serve with crushed tortilla chips and more shredded cheese.
It's based off of a Rachel Ray Recipe and I have changed it somewhat.
BTW - This is what I serve my family. I will add more heat afterward for my liking
I will cook this in the next few weeks and provide feedback randomly haha.
It looks really good. But I have to re-consider based on provenance of Rachel Ray. Her recipes are sort of like the celebrity herself--start off looking really good but after a while you realize you could do better and some things are better when they take more than 30 minutes.
Abd that's why I changed it. She calls for less cheese, less jalepeno, and no chicken. She also puts salsa and sour cream in it.
tortilla soup from le dog
Mmmmmm... Now you have me thinkin' about Schuler's onion soup. Which is bad; as it's way before lunch out here on the west coast, and even worse, miles and miles away from Schuler's. 8(
Granville in Burbank is a great lunch place - and I recently had their lobster bisque and it was great.
Best French onion soup I've had in LA is Flemings. It's almost a meal itself.
Thanks, will try it next time down, should be in San Clemente for a couple weeks next month. The cioppino up here is good but anything “deli-ish” suffers from the wholesome, granola crowd here.
Isn't flemings a chain? Is that flemings steakhouse? They have one in Birmingham here.
I may have to throw some ribs on the BGE in solidarity.
Who cares about the recruits? I'd rather speculate on the amount of food eaten at the event.
He looks sad.
Also, I would like to know if it is Kansas City/Memphis style BBQ or is it North Carolina BBQ?
North? How about South?
I will admit, I am a fan of the mustard-based South Carolina sauce.
Applewood? I've been using more of that lately with my smokes; Mesquite i've only been busting out for brisket...it tends to make my ribs and pork butt taste the same. And it makes the microwave smell like a brush fire after reheating leftovers.
Oak is only for Cabernet's and dry dry Chardonay aging IMHO.
Sweatmans for the win
You hit the nail on the head with the brush fire comment.....
I stick to Eastern North Carolina bbq. I will fight the evil that is tomato-based bbq. And don't get me started on that faux substance purported to be bbq that involves meat obtained from anything other than pigs.
Would recommend expanding your horizons to the joys of brisket.
If done right.....yum yum yum.
I started doing them by trimming all the cap, like prepping for a corned beef.
Found that leaving some of it, fat side up, lets it baste itself. Absolutely delicious if done right, but you have to have a lot of time on your hands, and it is definitely not as forgiving as a pork butt.
Sorry, I meant no disrespect to South Carolina. I should have just said "Carolina" instead.
How dare you leave Texas style BBQ off that list! Or is it just me?
but on our road trip to the game @ Nebraska, we're planning on a stop in Kansas City for some BBQ, even though it will add quite a few miles to the trip. I myself haven't been there in over 20 years, so I'm really lookin forward to having my cholesterol #'s taking a major hit that weekend.
That said, i have become more partial toward mustard-based Carolina-style BBQ over the last several years.
Eh, I have mixed feeling about that. Although I love the blue chip talent that those two guys bring, I feel like we really could use a top-tier WR for Shane over another corner or a RB. My ideal finish for this class is Treadwell and Green.
Agreed. Shane likes to throw the ball 70 yds (and has the arm to do it). Finding him a target that can get open 70 yds down the field should be a priority... imagine how that will open up the ENTIRE offense... including the run game.
Here's the thing though - if we bring in McQuay, it's possible Jourdan Lewis moves to WR, and he's proven to be a pretty solid receiver prospect as well - that could be Shane's deep threat (outside of Darboh and Chesson, of course, who are both deep threats, IMO).
Even if Lewis stayed on the D side, having a great running game opens up deep threats. If we have great RBs and a great OL, teams will be forced to stack the box against us, or we could just Wisconsin teams all days and not hardly throw. And with 8 men in the box, anybody can be a deep threat.
Have to disagree re: Lewis. Sam Webb said McQuay is a S recruit, not a DB. Webb also said the opposite of Tremendous, saying that McQuay moved UM out of his top 3 but that doesn't mean they are out, and that UM will still recruit him but only informed him he either needs to move quick, or he will get left out, but they won't stop recruiting him.
Also, has anyone ever ran a 70 yard route? That is just a silly concept that Shane needs someone to get open 70 yards down the field. Also, Treadwell ran an electronic 4.7 (high end too), he is not a burner. Don't know why people think he is.
cant imagine lm3 is still a huge priority with the douglas commit.
still think green is a slight longshot but it sounds better than it did a few months ago.
what happens this weekend might be fun to talk about on monday but personally i dont see any commits on the horizon.
Two spots left. Three players close to committing. I'd hate to see LT being the one without a chair once the music stops.
Anyway we take all three? ( LT, Green and McQuay)
Unless we make a marked rise in the Fulmer Cup rankings (please Michigan Hating God no), I don't see that happening.
Maybe, maybe not. But he posted a direct quote, so it would be hard for him to spin a direct quote.
Besides, that's our job to do in this thread.
Not so fast my friend. Sam Webb essentially posted the opposite of Tremendous just yesterday, saying that McQuay is still being recruited actively, and that he was only informed that there are two spots remaining, so it is his move to make. BTW, McQuay is being recruited as a S, not a DB.
Could you fill us in with some details...I speculate a recruiting site (Scout possibly?) posted this claim. Which recruits have had issues with Tremendous' reporting?
Judging from his comment below, I'm guessing it was from Rivals, which makes sense honestly. Free sites like Tremendous directly undermine their business model, so it would make sense for them to badmouth Tremendous as much as possible.
I think they (the pay sites) criticicized TomVH when he was here for how he dealt with recruits. They need to undermine the attempts of these free sites providing content in order to maintain their power and business model. Unless you see quotes or tweets from recruits (which I remember one recruit tweeting that Tremendous skewed his words and Steve corrected the error and apologized) don't buy it when the paysites just give a wholesale dismissal of their work.
Yeah, like I said, I remember it happening once, back when they would do bullets and paraphrase recruits rather than just quoting what they actually said. I think LT was the one I remembered. I haven't seen it since they've been doing quotes over there, so I haven't really seen it as a pattern as much as a one time thing. I think they provide enough good content and I think they're getting better at reporting more honestly and transparently.
Funny because I've never interviewed Laquon Treadwell. I've talked to him on short occasions a couple of times, but never have posted an interview or update with him at all. I'd love to see a link to whatever you've talked about.
Please, keep criticizing the way we do things to justify your spending money on (likely multiple) paysites. If you can find more incidences where recruits have said themselves that we misquoted them, I'd love to read them.
The one quote I screwed up on was Armani Reeves last year, where I took the exact wording of his text to me out of context. I talked with him immediately after, the quote was changed, and there were no hard feelings.
I posted exactly what McQuay texted me this morning. Verbatim. If it's not what it was meant to be, then he is the one who misspoke, not myself.
There was one in the last year that immediately said the opposite of what Tremendous had relayed from him. He did it as a response. Tremendous corrected it. There was some question here, around that time, of Tremendous bullet pointing recruits' feelings and statements, rather than giving direct quotes. I'd say it was near the end of last recruiting cycle? I wish I remembered the name.
Who were the multiple? I'm only aware of one and they cleared it up.
Your comment suggests this is a common occurence. In my experience Tremendous has done a Tremendous job keeping us informed.
Although Trmendous uses direct quotes from the kids,kids tend to misinterpret things a lot. Take for instance when Tremendous suggested that they may be recruiting another OL because the kid and David Dawson said so. Well Chris Fox was pretty pissed to hear that, and considered taking visits because he committed under the premise that Michigan was only taking 5 OL.
Tremendous has a lot of cool features, and I love the interviews that they do, but guys like Webb, who actually has a pretty good relationship with Mattison, or Balas, who has his own contacts are actually still pretty valuable if you enjoy following this sort of thing.
Like this LM3 issue: Tremendous gets a quote from the kid feeling that if he doesn't commit this weekend that he WON'T have a scholarship, where Sam talked to the kids dad, which stated that if Leon wasn't ready this weekend that they couldn't GUARANTEE that he would have an available spot when he was ready, but that they would still recruit him.
You're right. Fox was so angry with me that I'm talking with him tonight to get a pre-BBQ update and talk about his off-season development.
You sound tremendously angry...
\hangs head for poor pun
I'm not sure if you can hold Tremendous responsible for accurately reporting a quote if the speaker was just wrong about something. He doesn't report things as ontological, objective, empirically established truth. He's pretty clear about saying "Recruit X told me Z," not "Z is irrefutably true."
Besides, Tremendous is covering games from the press box this season. SOMEONE in the Athletic Department thinks he's doing a pretty good job.
Chris Balas will tell Michigan fans whatever they want to hear, and he will also change his story multiple times in the hopes of eventually getting something right.
To my knowledge, there was only one issue, it was a matter of context rather than content, and it was promptly and publicly addressed. Also, it didn't involve Treadwell at all.
Besides, if we're going to start discounting anyone who has ever been accused of misquoting/mis-sourcing/misleading/giving an inaccurate impression, then we'd better start ignoring Sam Webb, Mike Farrell, TomVH, Ace, Brian, me, my wife, and my dogs.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't McQuay drop you guys after Douglas committed?
He dropped us behind his leaders, but that doesn't totally count us out.
People are just behind in their recruiting news.
He didn't. That was a rumor that has since been refuted.
Worst news of the day
Breaking news from media days: Taylor Lewan has retired the twosie.
Maybe the twosie is for off-season only.
Ill be honest I was scared to read after the breaking news part of that tweet.
My brain read it as "braking" news and I just knew that there was no way the twosie could endure 600 pounds of beef and something tragic happened; like having to use twenty-some fraternity members about to take a photo as decelerators.
Lewan, Gronk should have a reality show together.
They can call it "Yo Soy Fiesta"
Viva la stool?
I drive by to work on State St. every morning and more than a few times Taylor's passed me on a moped.
Seriously looks like he's riding a tricycle on the road
Gif of the year? More like gif of a lifetime.
I'm sure he was pullin' in too many ladies with that thing. Had to retire it to focus on the upcoming season.
I think the LM3 'commit this weekend or don't at all' move isn't necessarily trying to force him to commit to us. I think it's more of a 'we're pretty set on cb so if you don't want to commit to us now then we're going to focus on other things' move, which would make sense after the douglass commitment. Although a lot of fans of other schools will probably say "Hah! Told you guys Brady Hoke pressures recruits!" Either that or there are some silent commits out there and the coaches know something we don't, which we probably would have heard about by now.
"Either that or there are some silent commits out there and the coaches know something we don't, which we probably would have heard about by now"
If we had heard about them by now, then those commits that the coaches know about and we don't wouldn't exist...could you explain your meaning please?
I didn't mean we would know who it was, but we would know that someone has committed. There have been instances in the past where a guy like Sam Webb will say that a recruit has silently committed, but he won't give us a name. Then Twitter blows up and Mgoblog explodes with speculation. The end.
ahhhh, gotcha. Thank you. that makes a lot of sense now that you clarified. thanks again
Sam Webb does a nice job of explaining Leon's situation in the Detroit News yesterday (link below). However, the most interesting and insightful aspect of the article is Mr. McQuay's thoughts in the Comments Section. IMO, I like how the McQuay family is handling this. Leon would certainly be a nice addition to our class, but I like his selection process regardless of choice.
Mr. McQuay does seem to be on top of things, but he should really stop reading the comments section. All kinds of idiots post absolute nonsense and it isn't worth his time even commenting.
I really like Leon and was hoping he lands in Ann Arbor, but either way I hope the kid has a nice career.
A friend of yours is "in tune" with Clemson recruiting? Nice try RDT
I thought that sounded very RDT-ish as well. But the dude is a Clemson alum and, in our recent conversations, seems to follow recruiting very closely from a Clemson standpoint. He might be full of crap, but seems like knowledge that would not be hard to come by if you followed their recruiting closely.
I don't think that this news about Clemson is all that rare. I've read similar things on 247 posted by Clemson fans. As of now, most people think that his favorite is probably Auburn, but they also have another RB that they're trying to flip from Oklahoma, so if they get him, they may be out on Green too.
bbqbbqbvqbvqbbqbbqbvqbbq I want bbq brisket. let's make this a ribs thread, I love ribs. let's see some pictures of people eating ribs. that's all I gave to say. go blue!!! ribs!!!
I know nobody wants to hear this really, but think about it. It appears at this very moment as though we have a good chance with all 3 of Treadwell, Green, and McQuay, and only two spots in the class remaining. If all of them wanted to commit, would we have to turn one away? And if we did, could anyone really justify giving a scholarship to a long snapper in this class if it means losing out on one of these guys?
This said, I have total faith in Hoke and the coaching staff and hope that Hoke is our coach for a long time to come. They are smarter than every single one of us on this board. But the only thing I can think may have been the reason for this is that the coaching staff didn't anticipate still being in on all of these guys at the end? Any thoughts?
And he values keeping his word even more. Integrity is one of the best things about the program right now.
It's in extremely bad taste to pull a scholarship offer from a player. I don't think Brady Hoke is that kind of coach, not is Michigan that kind of school. People's word still means something here, as does commitment.
Not suggesting he should pull the scholarship now, just wondering why he would have given it in the first place
Because, be honest, if it comes down to it, not saying it will, but if it does, would you rather have Sypniewski or someone like McQuay
Honestly? I would rather have Sypniewski. We have a very strong class for our secondary already, and Sypniewski is a stud long snapper. This is a position that we can't overlook since he will (hopefully) have 4 full years with 10ish snaps per game. Any single one of those screwed up can ruin a game, and ruin a season. Also, going back on our commitment to him sends a terrible message. We'd be getting into Alabama shuffle territory there
Now that a lot of schools are offering scholarships to long snappers, if you don't offer one, you basically won't get any of the top 20 guys. To me it's worth one scholarship over so many years. He can hopefully wait until 2016 or 2017 before freeing another one. And we are not gonna get all 3 guys anyway so it doesn't even matter.
I don't get why everyone insists on making this argument. Did I miss some sort of terrible long snapping epidemic over the past fourty years that suddenly warrants the need to scout and offer kids to long snap? Have walk ons suddenly become insufficient? What is a stud long snapper, anyways? There's no gurantee that he will react to the college atmosphere and perform up to par with his "ranking" anyways. Want an example? Look at our punter. The only difference now is that instead of saying "so long" to a walk on who can't do the job we'll have another scholarship tied up for years.
I'm getting tired of that argument as well, however, I'm pretty sure the starting LS has always been on scholarship.
And rightfully so. The difference is that in the previous scenario you had a chance to prove the player out before dedicating that scholarship to him (if he didn't already serve another pupose on the team that got him a scholarship coming in).
Probably a smart move to change your name
Ok, so this is strange. I could have sworn I saw this post was originally authored by WolverineInABag. Then, after I refreshed it, the author changed.
BISB, was there a name change?
edit: also, the statement about "people's word mean[ing] something" could be incredibly ironic in this case.