We allowed 31 points despite not being able to get a defensive rebound. I think there's some correlation there, frankly.
Michigan Basketball vs. MSU Open Thread
I don't hate him. He's young. I don't mind him not playing today though. His defense is the worst on the team.
If your only way of following this game was via this thread, you would assume we were losing by 20.
Zone. Why don't we do this more?
And good in small doses.
"Of the top 5 teams in the Big Ten, Michigan is clearly the worst on defense". I know it's true, but it hurts to hear. LIE TO ME DAMN IT.
We're getting beat in almost every aspect of the game and we're only down by 3. I'll take it, but something better change in the second half if we're going to have a chance to win this one.
We're screwed if we never develop our big men more. MSU and other teams with physical big men will eat us alive.
We need to continue to address that through recruiting as well.
A. Effort on the defensive end that is extraordinary.
B. winning in the glass.
C. THJ please!
D. Frontline contributions that are a 180 from what just happened.
they need to find robinson some more. it worked in the first 6 minutes then they went away from it. Refs got to let us play physical if they letting sparty play.
Selected numbers at the half:
The offensive rebounds are still an issue, but I like the increased intensity, fewer turnovers, more steals. Despite being a troubling 0-6 from three-point range, Michigan has kept their effective shooting percentage down, which means it is still a manageable game. Hopefully, the spirited play keeps up.
UM: 0% Ughhh.
MSU: 45% Ughh.
I think State was at 34% 3 Pt FG% coming into the game. Uncontested 3's continue to haunt us.
Also when did Payne learn how to shoot 3s?
We've been out rebounded, not made any threes and are only down by 3 - I'll take it.
Not sure many around here know that much about basketball, by reading the comments.
Pretty good half. The rebounds and "loose balls" given up were frustrating, for sure, but overall the defensive side of the ball is playing like they never have; I don't know where it's been but I like it. They have good energy and good movement/rotations. They need to give another 20 mintues of that effort. Offensively isn't dire but it wasn't good. Need to hit some shots which I think will open the interior/paint back up a bit. And back to the Oreb and loose balls given up, those are cutting down on some transition opportunities, which when we get them we do well and score the ball...More of those please.
Also, how the F**K do these teams hit these long full/hafl court shots on us. That thing almost went in at the end of the half, which, how!??
Edit: Trolling? Grow up.
From the lane due to the floor being effectively spread, you may want to be careful about slamming the "little people"
Your post was much more flamebait than trolling.
As ugly as that first half went we are still only down 3. A big blow losing Nick early in the game. THJ really looks like he is pressing to me forcing a lot and maybe playing with the ball a bit to much. Also would like to see GRIII take the game into his own hands a bit more, really think he could create just as Burke does.
Need a strong 2nd half! Go Blue!
Hopefully we get one of those nice second half spurts to put us ahead. Also, Burke is one of the most consistently great college basketball players I've seen in a while.
Lots of complaining about the offense here. We have about 10 dunks. That's good offense. The problem so far is simply shooting. UM has had plenty of open looks and can't hit them. MSU is hitting theirs.
You are correct sir
We haven't been great in the half court. In transition we've been pretty good.
We're shooting poorly from 3 and MSU will cool.
Just need 4 more pts than them over 20 min. 100% doable.
He looks awful. And he's not a pretty man to begin with. Maybe he's hungover.
Still not sure why we're supposed to care about what he says.
His paisley tie looks like the Red Wings symbol.
So unlikely it's a two-day bender.
Please i bet Gottlieb thows down Motley Crue style and drinks heroin from a fire hose!
I just thought that is what he looked like
I liked what I saw as far as effort and intensity in the first half. If the random breaks balance out in the 2nd, we should be ok. Oh yeah, and repeat along with me, "I believe the 3's will start falling soon. I believe the 3's will start falling soon. I believe the 3's..."
We were 0-6 on threes, getting out-rebounded 21-13, and are only down 3? Sorry I missed the first half because I can't imagine how we're this close.
We created some good turnovers and got points on the break... And Trey has been good.
Spartans will what? Burn couches?
Loving the energy by LeVert out there. GRIII has flashed some great play, would love to see him keep up some of that intensity on the boards. I think if we keep it up in the paint, the 3's will come. And obviously, lets check Payne a little closer guys.
to step up for our boys
Caris Defense > Stauskas Defense...just saying. I'm sorry to see he got hurt but maybe LeVert's D will help us throughout this game
If we are going to give up 50%+ on threes, I don't understand why we don't play more zone. At least we would be able to stop all these lay ups and get some defensive rebounds. If you are going to be bad at defense, at least be bad at one thing (3 point shooting), not bad at everything.
Much harder to rebound out of a zone.
I don't know anything about basketball so...
Is it harder to play zone when they have Nix and Payne in the game at the same time?
Nik hurt, THC not at game and Sparty on fire from 3 and we are only down by 3 ar half. Why am I so stressed? We got this.
THC? I swear I'm not high.
Was Nik a dirty play?
Good defense, but you gotta finish on offense.
or, get a rebound.
All that said, I like the intensity after the break. Just got to finish.
We need to keep being aggresive so we get them in foul trouble
LOVING the energy by LeVert. We feel like an upbeat team when he's in.
We would be up now if we could hit a layup.
got to take advantage
All Michigan lay up hating god?
I have this dream... where we get a rebound. But then I wake up...
Inception is currently on TNT...
Less missed layups please! We are looking good to start the half though.
I'm actually pretty pleased with this game so far but damn two missed layup a back to back with a chance to take the lead is so frustrating
Yup. Offensive foul for sure.
Wow, another offensive foul called on them? I'm shocked.
The radio guys (ours) seem to think we got really lucky on that
That was a nice flop.
Now, let's get Payne to pick up his third.
I think the fact that Levert is being pushed into the starting lineup is a blessing in disguise. Really like the athleticism he adds and the fearless way he plays.
Beautiful feeed Burke
When he's on the floor?
I thought the MSU inbounder just threw it right out of bounds haha.
I hate teddy valentine.
I've been missing parts of the game, any news on Stauskas?
12 stitches, haven't heard anything else...
He's been shown on the bench. Stitches for sure but not sure how many. I've been listening to the radio broadcast while watching so not sure if they've said any more on tv. His left eye looks pretty bad.
I can't wait to make our first 3!!!
It will be a glorious moment, if it happens.
If we could just hit 25% on 3s. Is that asking too much????
There it is! Strong bout damn time!
ANOTHER OFFENSIVE FOUL ON MSU? Haha, YESS
Now THAT was a charge.
The refs are awesome today.
pitching a shutout in the 2nd half
Payne and Nix with two each; let's keep plugging it inside and get one or both of them to pick up their third. WAY better defensive intensity; just got to start finishing.
In the first four. Adjustments? No, just regression!
Home cooking helping out like it should be
Alright even I have to agree these charges are all a little biased
Not all of them, but the Morgan/Harris one was questionable for sure. Timmy looked set there and Payne definitely lowered the shoulder into GRIII.
Stroooooooooong! Also, I just realized that MSU has yet to score this half!
Way to jinx the second half shutout. There goes the 65-31 win.
well this is a different team from the first half
After those charges is anyone else sure that the MSU is going to get all the rest of the calls? I hope Valentine is immune to Izzo's charms.
History's slowest 10-0 run. I'll take it.
Whats going on with that? Also....why is Stauskas out? I really hope that Belien urges this kid to grow up this season. He's an uber-talented shooter but I'm going to need him to toughen up physically and mentally. I swear this team is all Burke and McGary.....
Nick got 12 stiches. May be out for games
Assuming you haven't watched but Stauskas took an elbow to the face and has stitches above his eyebrow which looks significantly swollen. He hasn't played since the first 4 minutes.
Monster University?! Thats not fair to the "people" at MSU
It's harder to get into than MSU.
I'm listening online and pumping my fist on the Philly to DC train. I'm pretty sure people think in crazy.
Get an easy basket here out of the time out.
that was a great call - but I feared it wouldn't go our way. Great defensive feet this half - energy and beating MSU to the spot on the floor.
Winning, Stauskas out (coincidence?), and 0-8 from the 3 point line. Our threes will start to fall soon....
The advertising campaign for the new Monster's inc movie is great. Mimicking the college commercials on a channel where you expect to see them during commercials. Very clever and funny.
Are they in the SEC? The football team looks dominating.
i can't wait till we hit a 3!!
Was Morgan's take. Both Payne and Nix initiated w a defender clearly in front of them
else think it might be time to start another thread for this game?
Caris getting more and more confident...
Nice move, Caris.
THats what I'm talking about. Toughness. Great basket.
we're getting some calls, i'll pinch myself
We struggle to inbound the ball at times.
Hardaway is AWFUL!!!!!
Come on Timmy.
What the fuck was that fucking shit? No foul on that.
With his decision making. No offense to Nik
Hardaway is amazing.
MSU is in his head. McGary is the man. I love that kid.
Jesus, grab a rebound.
AN absolute Nightmare. Please find Burke and just run down the floor. Do not dribble anymore.
Handle rating in NBA 2K14/15 will be a 0.
Lots of extra possessions for MSU.
Staee fans whining about Michigan flopping.
get rid of the charging call'
keep driving and crashing
Burke should've kicked out to the open man for 3
I can imagine he's hesitant to do that because we're shooting a cool 0% from beyond the arc (0-8).
Plays like that are what is separating us from being B1G champs. Got to make the extra pass to your teammates. Especially after Caris just scored!
Why force that, Trey?
Drive, drive, drive.
McGary using the dribble!!!
I think it's impossible for these kids to be tired with all the TOs. Anyone else?
"That's the 4th offensive rebound against Michigan State this half"
I've also heard the announcer call Michigan the Spartans, and say Keith Appling was called for a foul, by which he means that Appling was fouled.
It's Verne on the call that's what he does
Jordan Morgan is HUGE! He has definitely made a difference today on the defensive end.
Poor Verne. Offensive rebound?
That was funny
This commentating crew is tanked.
Offensive fouls are now called offensive rebounds.
Where has this defense been all year???? It's fricken awesome!!!
Great intensity on the defensive end! Keep up the energy.
Trey's trying to go hero mode way too often.
Is this the first time this game to have Mogran and McGary in at the same time?
Why oh why couldn't we play this defense for weeks?
Has been awesome, boy we missed him while he was hurting. I wonder how we woulda done in Feb had he not gotten hurt
We gotta break this open while MSU is still giving us freebie possessions, because at some point they'll pull their heads out of the couch.
That is on fire. Because you know... MSU.
6'10" Zach Novak with TALENT!!!
How about Novak with size. He had some talent but he was 6'4" playing the 4 position and he held his own.
Yes, my bad... Mitch a Novak w/ size & possible NBA TALENT!
Shouldn't be dissing Zach after all the blood & anueryisms & stuff!
- Fred Jackson
Novak had some talent. Led this team to a conference title.
commiting those Offensive Rebounds
We're a completely different team with 2 bigs on the floor. Mitch is a liability on d, and J-Mo can't finish on offense, but combined, they're just what we need in the post.
Any reason we can't get a live blog a la football?
Announcing crew pregamed a bit too hard it would appear.
For our first three.
This year apparently marks time one and two that we have played both in the top 10. Does anyone else find that really surprising?
Applying is kind of a punk.
What a game from him!
That foul by Appling was borderline x rated!
If Mitch keeps doing that, look out
One of these threes has to go in
At some point we have to just accidentally hit a three. This is crazy.
three guys with three fouls, and we are just not hitting anything from three
Damn, can't buy a three.
So, it looked to me like we got mangled a couple times under the hoop. Would've been nice for a foul call. Suppose I can't complain with all those offensive foul calls, but still.
Mitch should let it fly from downtown
We have to take advantage of this bonus.
Spike not shooting any more 3's.
there, I think we needed, we seemed to lose a little focus
Here we go again -make a stinking shot or that will haunt us later
I won't believe it until I see it, but no way refs let us start getting to the line to take 1and 1's. And no way we'll get there unless we keep driving to the hoop.
I feel like we are letting them hang around too much. I is nervous.
I once beat a shark down like that. True story!
Burke is 0 for 5 from the floor in the 2nd half and we're 0 for 10 from 3 point land. And we're up 3 somehow.
How do we have the lead when we can't hit one freaking three!
If they could make open jump shots they would be comfortably ahead. Dissapointing to see the team shoot the basketball this poorly on their home floor. And how in the hell do you not pick up the basketball and let appling dribble all the way down the floor for a layup?! That is aweful. Also, If Spike is going to play....he needs to do something.
an outside shot. Spike is clanging and THJ looks uneasy. Time for GRob.
We are in the bonus, lets use that. Trey should keep pulling his defender onto his rump and we should keep getting in the lane. We have 9+ minutes to work the foul trouble.
Have they called any fouls when we go to the hoop?
Surprising how important he seems to have with how badly the offensive flow has been
i dont think I can stand another last minute heartbreaker!!
I like it.
Little Mitch delivered newspapers while riding a unicycle? I would absolutely sign up for a subscription just to see that.
Quick poll...who hits the first three?
Or will we hit one?
Is there a league rule that Izzo has to have at least a toe on the court at all times?
What a screen!
Would love to drain a 3 here*.
*Or anywhere, at least 1, from somewhere, please?
Pitbull going to commercial? Really?
I'm sick of that song, and I have never heard the entire song!
I want us to win without hitting a three.
Loo Tim couldn't hit water if he fell out of a boat right now, need him to step up here down the stretch.
...if stauskas is going to be fragile....
coming up here, time to hunker down and beat us some Sparty
Why always a reverse lay up? No left hand?
For 0 for how many is the record from 3?
I believe the Denver Nuggets set the NBA record this season with an 0/22 game from behind the arc. Don't know what the NCAA record is though...
But we may be on pace for those.
It's actually now an ugly game. At least we are less ugly at this pt
why do the warmups have hoods on them
I bet we don't shoot a 1 and 1 until the refs even up the fouls. Just watch.
you called it!!
Post "redundant" but Hardaway is not NBA ready. He's athletic and has a great smile.
Ohio at Crisler this year?
For him. He's got to have at least one, right?
that GR3 screen was a WALL, love it
If we could do better than 0-11 from 3 it would be nice. I had no idea what to expect from todays game, but 0-11 was probably the last thing on my list.
If you'd have told me we were going 0-11 through 13 minutes into the 2nd half, I'd say we're down by 10. Hmm.
Is playing well today. Keep it up big fella
2 points for Coach B there! Nice call!
Holy shit. We ran a play!!
now the refs are playing "let's even the fouls up before giving mich the bonus!"
Levert is Ballin!!!!!
the effort by our team today, showing a lot of moxie
we really need that in March and hopefully April
Run that little bitch in a suit over. How he gets away with that is unreal
The pace at which I am consuming my beverage is increasing at an alarming rate
They want to be Doooooke
Slap the floor...as Trey slaps his nuts on your chin.
No fouls calls on State. WTF
EVERYONE STAND UP
MSU made a 3 this half?
No, they are 5-18 for the game. 0 this half 0-9 this half I believe.
Trey wants it!!!! Holy shit!!!!
Was anyone else seeing Hardaway dribbling and going NONONONO - YES!!!
I love that Michigan is hitting MSU in the mouth this time around. I wish they had been playing this physical the past month. Maybe they have "gotten it" now.
Trey Burke slapping the floor right in front of the MSU bench.
this was awesome, especially after msu did it and trey diced up the whole msu d
SLAP THAT DAMN FLOOR LET'S GO!
what the fuck I'm talkin' about, go get em' boys
Love our guys slapping the floor in mockery. Need that fire.
So... were we slapping the floor just now to troll Sparty? If so... well played.
Thats energy and toughness! Thank you!! Bout Time!
I actually like the hooded warm ups. Are they available at the M Den?
Awesome F you to state!
Hardaway GR3 and Burke all with the FU court slap after that alley oop love it
Goosebumps - keep playing hard to the f'ing end!
JACKIE MOON!!!!!'s MOM WAS RIGHT!!!
this is the passion/intensity/heart that i love to see!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! this is the team i love!
This feels good!
Ace: Cinco defensive floor slap followed by Burke breaking down the defense for a lay-up should be a gif. Please.
Wait, a foul on MSU?
Was izzo just chirping Hardaway?
What a tool. Remember that you're allegedly a grown man.
Burke should've passed that..
at that hoe trey!!
Can someone get a .Gif of Burke going ape sh*t slapping the floor. That was amazing.
Mute button engage
But actually Valentine broke that up nicely.
Why?! You just made this thread uncomfortable!
Why can't this team make layups?
Appling has 5 fouls. Someone needs to drive on him every possession.
Some how I don't think this is the case....
That was a charge
Make up call since we were +4 in the offensive foul department this half. Refs probably want to make this game come down to the wire, anyways.
Anyways ain't a word
instead of a 12 point lead, we have a possible 7 pt lead
Finish, finish, finish, finish, etc etc
let me say this again: this feels good!!!!
The boys are back!
Keep scoring. Move the ball and we got this.
That (potential) and 1 could hurt if we don't go down and convert.
Man that foul has to be on LeVert cuz Robinson looked set...
Izzo can't wave his head and arm at the same time.
Drive on applying!!! He's about to foul out and that will hurt them with turnovers.
Burke only has 17. Wow. Seemed like way more.
I know this won't be a popular statement but Trey can be pretty greedy with the ball at times.
Wow, what the fuck just happened.
The fuck was that
And here comes the PSU refs...
There's no foul there... Arms straight up...
Jesus, that sequence was terrible.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
A LANE VIOLATION WTF
Timeout! Take this momentum away!
Ed: Just to chew the refs out to show some emotion.