Yeah but kind of feel bad for Russell Wilson. That guy is a budding superstar.
Michigan Basketball Snowflakes Thread
Here's my snowflake:
- 2012 Kentucky had 2 losses
- 2011 Connecticut had 9(!) losses
- 2010 Duke had 5 losses
And I could go on.
The national champion is usually not undefeated. In a conference as good as the Big Ten, we're going to pick up losses.
We will mop the floor with them at Crisler.
We are going to the NCAA tournament.
well we lost. it happens. it sucks that it was against ohio, but i think we'll split with them. they didn't beat us because they were the better team. the question the team has to ask itself now is how are they going to respond? they've got a pretty rough stretch coming up with minnesota and illinois, then indiana isn't that far off.
Keep this in mind. We haven't won at Value city arena since I was in 3rd fucking grade. I'm a freshman in college. And I remember watching that game, bragging about it the next day, and no one caring.
That has a lot to do with the fact that we were a crappy program most of the last decade. This was the first time in 10-12 years we didn't go in there as a big underdog.
to be fair, we were a pretty crappy program for most of those years.
I'm sick of our inability to consistently beat Ohio State in football and basketball.
I have an extra sad that one such loss was Ohio State.
If this is our last loss to the nuts in 2013 i will be very happy
Are failing to give credit to a pretty good defensive effort by the bucks. Those forced shots, turnovers and bad FG % could be due to that. Don't mean to mess up the narratives but their D was pretty suffocating in the 1st.
Michigan tightened up in the 2nd, so a pretty good effort, 1st half notwithstanding.
OSU played the best D (in the first half) we've seen all season. They defended the pick and roll quite aggressively and forced quite a few TO's and questionable shots. Stauskas was a non-factor. For a 7-8 minute stretch in the 2nd half, our D really stepped it up and the shots were falling because of better offensive execution. OSU is an ugly club to watch (like Amaker teams). Our club will get better but has to be ready from the beginning vs Minnesota. That barn will be rocking moreso than that outhouse in Cbus. Have to win on the road to be conference champs. Many chances ahead.
It shows thay Ohio cannot score enough in a half court game to keep up --- unless we throw up on ourselves in the first half. Crap
16-0 wouldn't have won us a trophy. This game was a lot like Arkansas last year (including the Burke miss), and the team will rebound to contend until the last day of the season. 5 freshmen in top 9 grew up a lot today.
Beilein, Burke, Hardaway, and the squad are completely fine. Can't win them all but we immediately have another chance at a big road win with @ Minnesota next.
Don't know if this is a "snowflake" or not, but what's the deal with Jordan Morgan? He has been from what i can see ineffective in the past couple games, and McGary has been a monster. I don't understand why in those last crucial minutes why they played him over Mitch when every rebound counts.
Is that JMO is are steady, you know what you're getting type of player. You might not feel him as much as Mitch but sometimes that's a good thing (defensive lapses, turnovers). I like what I've been seeing from Mitch for sure but I can't criticize the decision to have a seasoned, proven veteran like Morgan in at any point. Jordan Morgan has proven over the last three years that we can count on him to win games.
I was pleasantly surprised with how mature McGary played. Future is bright with that kid. I don't think Beilein was out coached, they were down 21 and came back from a really slow start- turnovers were the difference early.
How much do you reckon tickets for the Michigan State game will go for?
More than I can afford right now
When you have four players that account for 60+ pts, you can't afford for more than 2 to have a bad night. Stauskas was nonexistent, GRIII was ok, Hardaway was less than ok, and Burke was ok. That doesn't win big ten road games against top 15 competition. Yay for Spike- he was great. Levert was a deer in the headlights. Morgan was poor. McGary seemed to do well on offense. Good to see Horford back in.
But with that said, we fought hard, and I was proud of this team for not giving up.
I would also like to say that OSU is beatable, and the refs sucked. I can list the arm bar no call on Hardaway, the and one that wasn't called on Burke and the ghost of a charge on Stauskas in the opening min. But hey, too many turnovers, but I think we will grow. It's great that Michigan basketball is in a situation where we get really upset over just 1 loss. 16-1 is nothing to be ashamed of- we just have to defend home court, and win ourselves a big ten championship!
We're not upset because its one loss. We're upset because its Ohio that beat us, and its the way they beat us.
I cannot wait for the day when Michigan has a serious threat down low.
And unfortunately that may come next year once Burke, Hardaway, and GRIII are gone.
Stauskus should've sat after showing he wouldn't be effective today. I love Morgan but McGary should have received more minutes today. The team seemed to be better when he was out there. It's tough to nitpick a 3 point loss. I'm glad Burke took that shot near the end. Your best player should take that shot. Young team with the first real conference test did well. They won't play that bad in the future.
You want Burke taking that shot, but I would have preferred something going towards the basket. Really no need for a 3 there.
He's our best player and he felt comfortable taking it so yes.
I thought coming back like that and blowing it was going to stick the knife in AND twist it. But after some time it made me feel better that this team is actually talented enough and not overrated; just can't sleepwalk to begin games any more. All of the goals are still there. Losing our first in a tough one in Columbus was expected for awhile. We just didn't expect to look like shit for 10 minutes.
On the bright side no one is crawling out from under rocks to tell me our coaching is going to lead us to an undefeated season after this game.
Glad to see McGary emerge over the last few weeks. We'll need him on Thursday.
It seemed like ohio and Neb both took a defensive strategy of overplaying the passing lanes to isolate the ball handling/passing skills. We need to solve that as we move forward and into the tourney. Fewer turnovers and better shot selection, hitting FTs and inside shot/rebound presence would help too.
As a side note, I think we were a mid-seed in '89 (6?) and Glen Rice went batshit crazy in the NCAAs; this team is easily as talented, if not more.
this team may be as talented as the 89 team relative to its competition, however, the 89 team was more talented than this team. that team had at least 5 guys make it to the nba; two of which started for several years.
ncaa teams in general had more talent last century because kids stayed at least 3 years with few exceptions.
We had a goto scorer in Glen Rice, all five starters who crashed the boards, but knew their roles. Also, Rice, Mills, Vaught, Hughes could score in the post. This team doesn't have that and would get pounded by the 89 squad.
was a huge kick in the nuts attending that game. I had to take shit the entire first half blowout and then take it again because Burke couldn't finish. Burke had a rough day and was cold. It happens. Coach B made a bad playcall off the last timeout. An iso dribble fest with a fade away 3 by a player having a terrible day? Not a good call. I'm also concerned that we have no post game at all. It will hurt us on the road and late in the NCAA tourney. Oh well, I'm still excited for this team and I'll root my ass off for them. Go Blue!
I am so fucking sick of losing to Ohio..this athletic dept better make some changes and learn how to keep up because we have gotten our asses stomped for years now in both Basketball and football..go ahead and Flamebait me i dont give a shit
100%. People need to start REALLY wanting to beat Ohio.
It's true. They focus all of their energy on us and we need to do the same.
Casa Tech Cb/Wr Dameon Webb committed to Ohio State per his Twitter https://twitter.com/damewebb/status/290573205578608640
Stupid IPhone spell check
On this board? Dude has a right to be cocky and can still be a Michigan man simultaneously. You should be more concerned he might have lost some confidence in this game.
I love Stauskus bot honestly he was getting way to cocky for having beaten up on a bunch of bums. Back when he was flying high I remember an interview where they asked him how he felt about shooting 58% from 3, and he responded by saying he's actually been a little off because he usually shoots 60%. Honestly he'll be lucky if he stays above 40%.
What is wrong with that quote? Should he have said, "yeah, but I will most likely shoot worse the rest of the way". C'mon man. Give the kid a break. He is a sick talent and had a bad day to the detriment of our team. I don't think we should be waiting in the bushes for the first glimpse that this kid is human. Seems a bit much. I want him to keep his swagger, put on about 20lbs., and have trey and th help him get off. His couple of turnovers and the defensive mismatches hurt a little today but that was not the story. We gave up 16 points on turnovers in the first half and got out roughed. We still made a game of it. Could have used some cocky shooting at the end. Better hope he stays so.
Confidence is good, it gives you the boost you need to make big plays and hit big shots. When you're cocky, you run the risk of underestimating your opponent and getting flustered when the ball doesn't bounce your way.
Look, I'm not hating on Stauskas but I do think he's getting a bit ahead of himself when he says he's gonna shoot 60% from 3 (the NCAA record is 51%) and that he's the best shooter in the country... I know, part of it is just being young and enjoying the spotlight, but I believe he'll become a much better player once he matures. I'd say today was a bit of a lesson in humility for Canadian Bacon...
How losing this game will affect Derrick Green's decision?
Thanks for the laugh on a day like this
When you're down 20 in the first ten minutes of a game, it's hard as hell not to just give up. Michigan didn't. And they gave one hell of a fight. If Michigan can get calmed down within the first couple of minutes, they can beat anyone in the nation.
Does anyone else think we'd benefit greatly from getting away from the pick and roll a little bit? It's wonderful to have in our arsenal but we become too reliant on it in the half court and the result is Trey dribbling too much with no movement from others. It was great when DMo was running it because he could throw passes over defenders. Trey doesn't have that luxury. We need more movement (how about an occasional backcut) and less reliance on the pick and roll.
The second chance shots also hurt us. When they miss, you have to get the rebound. It was hard enough to guard the first shot but to not get the rebound hurt us even more.
2 things hurt us the most:
1) Most of the team seemed not as intense as Ohio. I like the opening stuff w/ BA every game and the nutcracker thing was funny, but you have prepare that team for the intensity you know Ohio will bring in the 1st 5.
2) Burke and THJ (in the 2H) tried to do too much. I think you have to hype up the team, while taking Trey and THJ aside and tell them, a) not to do too much and play within the offense- b) trust your teamates to make shots, it's not all on them.
Also, that last play where Trey had the 3 rim out, I thought they'd draw up something different than Trey 1 on 1. Some kind of double screen that leaves an option for a drive/dish. disappointing coming out of a timeout.
They were in the bonus, why not just drive in for the tie? Either they let you have the bucket or they foul you and you get a shot to tie it with FTs. Silly game-planning. Also, we should have taken a time out when we stopped them down two. Instead, we wasted time and chucked up a three.
Tough to win on the road. Combination of Ohio playing great defense and us getting off to a horrible start. If we don't get down 28-8, we may win. We will probably lose road games vs. MSU, Minnesota, and Indiana too. A long season. Hate losing to Ohio again, but we are better than them at home and a neutral site IMO.
Craft has owned Burke. Period. Burke can't go off offensively against that kind of quality D. That's the difference in the game. That and the whole damn team being asleep the first half.