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March 17th, 2013 at 8:32 PM
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Michigan and Tournament Redemption
So with the recent disappointment of both the Big 10 regular season and conference tournament now behind us how far in the Big Dance do we have to go in order for this season to be viewed as or remembered as a success? In my mind we need to be in the elite 8 with the chance to go to the final four. Thoughts??
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March 17th, 2013 at 8:33 PM | Sweet 16 would be a success (Score:5 Normal)
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Sweet 16 would be a success in my book. Though in my bracket I've got us beating Ohio in the finals for the championship, which I would be okay with as well.

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:39 PM | I'm glad it's not just me... (Score:-1 Trolling)
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But Ohio and Louisville seem to have rather easy roads to the Final Four.

I don't think either team is Final Four calibur, but I can't see a "for sure" team in their way that they'll struggle with.

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March 17th, 2013 at 10:37 PM | If those two teams aren't (Score:5 Normal)
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If those two teams aren't Final Four worthy then no one is.

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:42 PM | I have watched a few (Score:2)
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I have watched a few Louisville games recently and I think they are Final Four caliber. They play extremely good defense, they are talented, deep, and have an excellent coach. They have been on fire recently as well.

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:43 PM | Lol (Score:5 Normal)
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At the #1 overall team not being final four caliber. Lol especially in a year where there are no great teams.

I do it for my love of the Streets

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:56 PM | yikes.  We spent all season (Score:4 Normal)
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yikes.  We spent all season in the top 5, and you would consider beating south dakota state and vcu then losing a success?

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:34 PM | Considering I don't think we (Score:5 Normal)
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Considering I don't think we are actually a top 5 team, yes.

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:53 PM | We spent a lot of time in the top 5 this year (Score:4 Normal)
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but right now we're playing like a middle-of-the-pack Big Ten team. 6-6 in our last 12 I believe

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March 17th, 2013 at 11:09 PM | yes.  And one week ago we (Score:3 Normal)
orobs
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yes.  And one week ago we were talking about a 1 seed.  Lets not act like a sweet 16 appearance with wins over mid majors would be a great success

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March 18th, 2013 at 7:55 AM | Before you activate your (Score:2)
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Before you activate your sense of entitlement, keep in mind that we have not been to the Sweet 16 in 19 years.  If we end that drought, that's progress.

And let's be honest, even when we were hoping for a 1 seed with a win over IU, I don't remember too many people proclaiming anytime in the last 3-4 weeks that we're a surefire Final Four team.  The hope was that we'd get a high enough seed to get us a favorable draw until the Elite Eight or so.  I think our draw in the first weekend is reasonably favorable, but Kansas in the Sweet 16 would be tough.  Let's just get there first.

 

 

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:34 PM | again? (Score:0 Flamebait)
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didn't we just do this a week ago?

It doesn't matter the round after the first two, it matters how...

We are the dead.

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:35 PM | I'm over redemption and revenge... (Score:0 Trolling)
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We should've had that theme during the B1G Tournament.

At this point I'm just going by Charles Woodson's motto..."JUST. WIN."

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:35 PM | I love me some Charles (Score:1 Overrated)
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I love me some Charles Woodson...but didn't that motto belong to his former employer?

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March 18th, 2013 at 1:23 AM | nope, that was (Score:2)
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Just win, baby. 

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:36 PM | Re-read your first and last (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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Re-read your first and last sentences of your post. Then go drink 19 beers.

 

 

 

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:40 PM | I see what you did there... (Score:1)
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Clever...

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:36 PM | Based on preseason hype, (Score:3 Normal)
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Mid season potential, and our bracket, it would be disappointing if we lose before Elite Eight. Jackrabbits, VCU, and Kansas are all games we should win for this season to salvage the meaningless quality of "success"

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:39 PM | I think it would (Score:1 Overrated)
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be a success (if you cann even categorize that) if we beat SDSU, and VCU/Akron.  If we have a tight game with Kansas, I'll be pleased.  If its anyone other than Kansas, I would like to see a win.  Just win the first though...

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:42 PM | Seriously, let's lay off on (Score:5 Normal)
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Seriously, let's lay off on the "Revenge Tour" and "Redemption Tour" business. Why don't we just sit back and enjoy the ride ad long as it lasts?

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:42 PM | As opposed to being in the Elite 8... (Score:1)
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without a chance to go to the Final Four?

/s

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:48 PM | Anyone who thinks Michigan (Score:1 Normal)
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Anyone who thinks Michigan will skate through the Palace onto Arlington is fooling themselves.

It's gonna take complete focus and effort, as well as GRIII coming back to life out there on the floor. ANYTHING can happen in these things. As of right now, it's rabbit huntin' season.

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:51 PM | Guess the Final Four isn't a must (Score:2 Normal)
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After we learned we're really not THAT good, but anything less than the Elite 8 is kinda "meh." Sweet 16 just means we again beat teams we were supposed to and lost to the first good team we faced. Time to actually beat someone that matters in the Tournament. We were the victim of an upset last year; let's return the favor.

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:56 PM | I cant explain how excited I (Score:1)
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I cant explain how excited I am abou this tournament and the matchups coming up. The big dance is all bout guard play and we have plenty of it. Playing teams that wont have time to scout up on us or just know are style like the teams in the Big Ten. None of that Ref cheese where they allow teams to mug all game long. I follow college basketball extremely closely and just looking at this region and bracket we play in all of these teams play fast and furious. Which honestly plays in are hands, only two or three teams can run and plauy fast with us- Indiana, Louisville are the only ones I can think of.

No team scares me, what scares mehas to be this team beating themselves. Getting down on themselves when shots dont fall so they lack on D, not blockig out. Stuff like that, that will be fixed.. it has to be. Im excited and ready to get this all going!

Meh....

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March 17th, 2013 at 8:59 PM | Dickie V just picked Michigan (Score:5 Normal)
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Dickie V just picked Michigan to go to the Final Four, along with OSU, Indiana, and Louisville. 

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:00 PM | Not sure if that is a good or (Score:5 Normal)
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Not sure if that is a good or bad thing.

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:15 PM | Irrelevant (Score:1)
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Dickie V is just a talking head. He doesn't shoot or play defense

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:37 PM | But does he rebound?  And if (Score:4 Normal)
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But does he rebound?  And if so, does he have any eligibility left?

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March 18th, 2013 at 10:40 AM | Disagree. Dickie V's Just A Shooter (Score:2)
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w/ his mouth

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March 18th, 2013 at 12:24 AM | Michigan to the final four (Score:1)
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Did you realize that Dicky-V had us playing Kansas in the great eight and then beating them to go to the final four? (1 vs 4 in the great 8 is impossible). I think the guy is really starting to lose it. He also thought he was being taped when he goofed on calling UNLV / New Mexico. And then started saying "okay let's go again"

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:01 PM | We have seen this before. (Score:3 Normal)
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Hate to bring this up, but 1989 was very similar.  Good team.  Average season given expectations.  Rose up for the tourney.  Also had Bo leading the charge.  Most of us did not think they could pull it off.  Most of us now do not think we can pull it off.  This team now certainly has the potential but needs the motivation and we have no Bo.  Anybody's guess but a Sweet sixteen or Elite Eight is certainly within reason.  Anything else IMHO is gravy.

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:07 PM | That Michigan team (Score:2 Normal)
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Went 5-1 before the Tournament began. They're not really the same.

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March 18th, 2013 at 10:42 AM | And if we get UNC in the Sweet Sixteen round (Score:2)
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...hmmnnnn

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:31 PM | If Michigan was in this position mid-season (Score:3 Normal)
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I would say they should make at least the elite eight. At Michigan's best, they were way better than at Kansas' best. But the fact is that it seems the freshmen have hit a bit of a wall, Burke is clearly tired, Hardaway is struggling to find his game, and the bigs are now inconsistent on offense and defense.

Part of the issues are that some things were exposed about this team, but I honestly don't think that is the biggest reason Michigan sits where they are right now. This is a team that peaked at the wrong time and is hitting a slump at the worst time. I still think this is a sweet sixteen team, but you have to understand how teams work and how that plays into "what is considered a success" today. As of today, a sweet sixteen looks like a success. Michigan hasn't been there in a long time, and that's at least a decent stepping stone. If it was mid-season, then yes, elite eight would be a success (I honestly don't think, no matter how good you are as a team, you can say anything above that and be realistic; final fours are damn hard and extremely lucky to come by).

Not to mention (and don't get me wrong, I think Michigan should win, but still), VCU isn't a great match-up for Michigan. Lot's of ball pressure, which Michigan has struggled with (and Burke's height has actually affected him).

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:25 PM | Not sure if you guys filled (Score:2 Normal)
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Not sure if you guys filled out brackets yet but I just submitted mine through ESPN with a glorious Michigan victory over OSU in the championship game. Now that will be a success of epic proportions 

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March 17th, 2013 at 10:40 PM | I filled mine out with a (Score:3 Normal)
Hoke-a-maniac
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Joined: 12/11/2011
MGoPoints: 481

I filled mine out with a Michigan championship over Louisville. I had originally had it against OSU but decided to change to UL. Go big or go home! Go Blue!

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March 17th, 2013 at 11:20 PM | Michigan FTW! (Score:1)
RFM
Joined: 02/19/2011
MGoPoints: 74

Doesn't matter if they're a 1 or 16 seed. I can't pick against them regardless of the odds or money. Imagine how sh!tt? (Besides the pure joy) You would feel if you didn't pick them and they won.

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March 18th, 2013 at 12:19 AM | If they won (Score:1)
M-Wolverine
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Joined: 10/04/2009
MGoPoints: 39217

I really wouldn't give a crap who I picked.

"I love him, he's a great coach, he's a great mentor, he's a great friend. He's every single thing you want a college coach to be, and he does it flawlessly." -David Molk

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:31 PM | Anything less than sweet (Score:2)
UMgradMSUdad
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Joined: 07/02/2011
MGoPoints: 2062

Anything less than sweet sixteen will be a disappointment. 

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:38 PM | Found this link to the (Score:2)
Mlaw2010
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Joined: 11/10/2008
MGoPoints: 285

Found this link to the official S Curve.  Looks like we were the top 4 seed in the original and then got moved around due to their pairing rules.  I'm not sure I can complain about any team in front of us given our performance in the last 2 months or so.  Interesting that four of the top 13 teams in the seeding are all from the B1G - just shows the depth and strength of the conference this year.

 

http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/03/17/the-2013-ncaa-tournament-official-seed-list/

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:42 PM | Using golfing terms (Score:4 Insightful)
MMB 82
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Joined: 07/06/2008
MGoPoints: 1380

Sweet Sixteen would be par; Elite 8 would be a birdie. 

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March 17th, 2013 at 9:51 PM | Based the evidence at hand (Score:1)
AMazinBlue
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Joined: 10/12/2008
MGoPoints: 2251

I think this team falls short against VCU.  I am hoping we get to Elite 8, but I doubt.  The youth and inexperience of this tream, and no inside scoring presence or defensive presence for that matter, says early exit for the Wolverines.  I will watch and root and enjoy whatever success they have.

I see Indiana, MSU and OSU going farther.  I think Miami may be the best team in the country.  I don't know much about Louisville, but the heads at ESPN think they're winning it all.

What the mind can conceive and believe, the mind can achieve and...Those Who Stay WILL Be Champions.

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March 17th, 2013 at 10:16 PM | When are game times (Score:1)
brandon_cook
Joined: 01/21/2011
MGoPoints: 144

When are game times announced?

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March 17th, 2013 at 10:58 PM | 7:15.  Per the M facebook (Score:2 Normal)
cheesheadwolverine
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Joined: 10/25/2008
MGoPoints: 2167

7:15.  Per the M facebook page the first (sorry, second) round game begins at 7:15

"I just hope Tressel doesn't fire me"

-Gordon Gee

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March 17th, 2013 at 11:31 PM | Redemption (Score:-1 Trolling)
ryanlove12
Joined: 01/12/2013
MGoPoints: 244

To redeem the blown opportunities this season: we have to go to the final four to make me feel like this season was a success. Think about it. We are more talented than last years team, and they won the big ten. We were 5th this year



Where do I think we will bow out? Round of 32.



Well. Here's hoping. Go Blue

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March 18th, 2013 at 1:53 AM | Win a national title, which (Score:2)
russale2012
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Joined: 11/30/2011
MGoPoints: 2793

Win a national title, which involves beating Duke in the Final Four, and leveling Indiana in the title game. Followed by Burke winning the Wooden Award and his announcing that he'll return for his junior season, just because its Michigan, fergodsakes.

Brady Hoke: Kicking Ass And Signing Names On The Recruiting Trail

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