Michigan #4 in AP Poll /#4 in Coaches Poll

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February 25th, 2013 at 1:41 PM
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Michigan #4 in AP Poll /#4 in Coaches Poll

Michigan up to No. 4 in the AP poll.  Indiana garners all but one first place vote, with that going to No. 2 Gonzaga

Full poll: http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

  1. Indiana
  2. Gonzaga
  3. Duke
  4. Michigan
  5. Miami (FL)
  6. Kansas
  7. Georgetown
  8. Florida
  9. MSU
  10. Louisville
  11. Arizona
  12. Syracuse
  13. Kansas State
  14. New Mexico
  15. Oklahoma State
  16. Ohio State
  17. Wisconsin
  18. Saint Louis
  19. Memphis
  20. Butler
  21. Notre Dame
  22. Marquette
  23. Pittsburgh
  24. Oregon
  25. Louisiana Tech

That's 5 ranked B1G teams, with Illinois coming in at an unofficial 31st under the others receiving votes category.  Indiana really emerges as the team to beat in a difficult league.

Update:

Michigan is also #4 in Coaches Poll, viewable by the same link as above.  Here's the poll in case you don't want to leave:

  1. Indiana (28)
  2. Gonzaga (3)
  3. Duke
  4. Michigan
  5. Kansas
  6. Florida
  7. Miami (FL)
  8. Georgetown
  9. Louisville
  10. MSU
  11. Arizona
  12. Syracuse
  13. Kansas State
  14. New Mexico
  15. Ohio State
  16. Wisconsin
  17. Memphis
  18. Oklahoma State
  19. Saint Louis
  20. Notre Dame
  21. Butler
  22. Marquette
  23. Saint Mary's
  24. Akron
  25. VCU

HAIL.

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February 25th, 2013 at 1:47 PM | It's good to see Oregona (Score:2 Normal)
Waka
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It's good to see Oregona making their debut in the poll.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:49 PM | Fixed.  Just trying to make (Score:4 Normal)
Soulfire21
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Fixed.  Just trying to make it so you didn't have to click another link to see the whole poll, so it was fast.

HAIL.

February 25th, 2013 at 2:15 PM | And I appreciate the extra (Score:3 Normal)
Waka
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And I appreciate the extra effort. Thanks for the post.

February 25th, 2013 at 5:49 PM | oregon making their debut? (Score:-1 Overrated)
February 25th, 2013 at 1:48 PM | No way Gonzaga should be that (Score:5 Normal)
exmtroj
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No way Gonzaga should be that high. Normally I don't care about polls but they better not take a 1 seed from us

 

 

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February 25th, 2013 at 1:49 PM | I agree on where the zags are now. (Score:1)
razor93
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If we win out though I do not think there is anyway they will be a #1 see over us.

February 25th, 2013 at 2:29 PM | Pffft! (Score:3 Normal)
1201SouthMain
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If we win out nobody is going to get a #1 seed over us.

 

February 25th, 2013 at 1:56 PM | I wouldn't mind being the 2 (Score:5 Normal)
Brick
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I wouldn't mind being the 2 seed in Gonzaga's bracket if they are a 1. I'd rather play them than any of the other top 8.

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February 25th, 2013 at 2:12 PM | I agree with this sentiment. (Score:1)
Dustinlo
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I agree with this sentiment. I hope the Zags are in our bracket, whether they as the one seed or us as the one seed. Best draw, IMO.

"For the last 28 years, I've spent my life in the greatest of places, the University of Michigan." -Lloyd Carr

February 25th, 2013 at 10:54 PM | Would rather not face them on (Score:2)
aiglick
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Would rather not face them on the West Coast though especially as a highly seeded team.

Here's hoping for a bright future. This team does try hard and I will continue to support them.

February 26th, 2013 at 12:10 PM | Ditto. I don't know how the (Score:1)
MGoPatio
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Ditto. I don't know how the "Zags are ranked so high based on such a weak schedule. Their SOS is 66th...behind eleven Big Ten teams (if I counted right). 

February 25th, 2013 at 1:48 PM | Wow (Score:1)
razor93
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I was just about to post this.  I must be slow.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:50 PM | I was in the right place at (Score:1)
Soulfire21
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I was in the right place at the right time I think, hah.

HAIL.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:48 PM | We beat msu and the games we (Score:1 Overrated)
JohnnyBlue
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We beat msu and the games we should win. Sets up a possible 1 vs 2 for the big ten championship at the end of the regular season.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:51 PM |  It wouldn't be for the Big (Score:5 Normal)
B1G_Fan
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 It wouldn't be for the Big ten championship or even a share if Indiana doesn't lose before they reach AA.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:52 PM | More likely (Score:5 Normal)
AAB
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a game to determine whether Indiana gets the title outright or shares it.  And even that requires them losing to Minnesota.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:49 PM | Indiana and State NEED to go (Score:1)
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Indiana and State NEED to go down.

'Try growing up in Texas a Michigan WOLVERINE'.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:51 PM | We will beat State next (Score:4 Normal)
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We will beat State next Sunday, but we need someone else to trip up Indiana. 

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

February 25th, 2013 at 2:10 PM | At Minnesota could be tricky (Score:4 Normal)
OmarDontScare
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At Minnesota could be tricky for them (fingers crossed).

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

February 25th, 2013 at 2:51 PM | for some reason (Score:1)
gustave ferbert
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I think OSU at Indiana is going to be the game they get upset.  I think they're playing a lot better after getting throttled by Wiscy.

February 25th, 2013 at 3:15 PM | I think IU wins that game (Score:1)
champswest
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by 15.

"I hate losing more than I like winning." - Zack

February 25th, 2013 at 2:20 PM | What from UM's past (Score:0 Normal)
February 25th, 2013 at 2:28 PM | We get blown out once and the (Score:4 Normal)
robbyt003
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We get blown out once and the season is a complete loss?  If you watched yesterday, you would have noticed just how important J Morgan is to this team. 

“When your team is winning, be ready to be tough, because winning can make you soft. On the other hand, when your team is losing, stick by them. Keep believing” - Bo Schembechler

February 25th, 2013 at 3:13 PM | I wouldn't try to extrapolate (Score:3 Normal)
Soulfire21
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I wouldn't try to extrapolate one game's result to the next, for example MSU lost pretty badly @Minnesota and then thumped them at home.  Counter-examples to your logic are numerous.

I would say that before our matchup I was confident we'd win at home, after that matchup I was less confident but I think we'll have an answer for them in our own house.  Morgan and LaVert both bring excellent defensive elements to this team, so that should help against MSU.  Appling has looked terrible in his last two outings as well, so hopefully he continues to be a non-factor for State.

HAIL.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:54 PM | Good (Score:3 Normal)
omgcodysignedon
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Happy that the voters as a whole put Michigan above Miami, The ACC is the weakest it's ever been

This is Michigan Fer Godsakes, We win Sugar Bowls here

February 25th, 2013 at 1:51 PM | Gonzaga (Score:2 Normal)
Gobgoblue
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could very well be a bracket buster for a lot of people.  I think they are a good team, but not number 2.  I would put them between 8-12.

I love Greg Mattison

February 25th, 2013 at 1:55 PM |  Everybody is a bracket (Score:2 Normal)
B1G_Fan
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 Everybody is a bracket buster this year. Nobody is even close to being an end all, beat all number 1 this year.

 The Big ten will have 5-6 teams in the sweet 16 tho and 2-3 in the final four

February 25th, 2013 at 2:04 PM | I don't see there is any way 3 (Score:-1 Overrated)
February 25th, 2013 at 2:29 PM |  We're going to have 7 teams (Score:0 Overrated)
February 25th, 2013 at 2:34 PM | By "pretty good shot" (Score:2 Normal)
1201SouthMain
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you mean anything is possible.  Cause we all know how the NCAA tourney is chalk to the Final Four.

February 25th, 2013 at 2:56 PM | not gonna happen (Score:4 Normal)
russale2012
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I'd be shocked if we sent 3 teams to the Final Four. Hell, I'd be surprised if we even had 2. The tournament is so unpredictable and upsets happen every year. There will be at least one Big Ten team that goes home early, probably first round, due to a major upset. It just happens. The conference sure has the talent to send multiple teams to the Final Four, but the odds of it happening, in my opinion, are small. Hard to win that many games in a row against solid competition.

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February 25th, 2013 at 3:43 PM | Thank you (Score:1)
Gobgoblue
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Thank you.  

I love Greg Mattison

February 25th, 2013 at 2:48 PM | In the last 60 years (Score:2)
Gobgoblue
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the only time 3 teams from the same conference title had 3 teams in the Final Four was in 1970, which doesn't even really count because they were all independent schools.

3 teams from the Big Ten in the Final Four?  It's not going to happen, realistically.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_NCAA_Division_I_men's_basketball_tournament_Final_Four_participants

I love Greg Mattison

February 25th, 2013 at 2:58 PM | Huh? (Score:3 Normal)
Maize and Blue in OH
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The Big East had 3 teams reach the 1985 final four - Georgetown, St. John's and Villanova (who beat #1 seed Michigan in the 2nd Round)

February 25th, 2013 at 3:41 PM | You are absolutely right (Score:1)
Gobgoblue
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I must have missed that one.  However, it is still only once.  

I love Greg Mattison

February 25th, 2013 at 2:06 PM | Yes, much as I enjoyed yesterday, (Score:2 Normal)
MGlobules
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the idea that our talented but young and vulnerable squad is number four may suggest that there is no really superior team in college hoop this year. If Indiana comes on strong at the end they could prove to be that squad, but. Meanwhile, if we finished the year at #4 I would say we had overachieved or at very least performed to expectations. 

February 25th, 2013 at 2:23 PM | Do you huff paint?  (Score:-1 Flamebait)
February 25th, 2013 at 2:23 PM | Dreaded double post (Score:2 Normal)
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February 25th, 2013 at 4:02 PM | How funny would it be to see (Score:1)
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How funny would it be to see an all big ten final four

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February 25th, 2013 at 1:51 PM | I just don't get how Miami is (Score:5 Normal)
Moleskyn
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I just don't get how Miami is ranked so high. Their win over Duke was impressive, and they have a solid win against MSU. But those are far outweighed by an 8-point loss to Florida Gulf Coast (???), a blowout loss to Arizona, a loss to Indiana State (???), and a blowout loss to Wake Forest. That resume doesn't add up to a top-5 team to me.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:54 PM | Durand Scott was out (Score:3 Normal)
AAB
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for Florida Gulf Coast, and Reggie Johnson was out for Arizona and Indiana State.  The Wake loss was obviously bad.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

February 25th, 2013 at 2:14 PM | Having those guys out still (Score:1 Normal)
OmarDontScare
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Having those guys out still doesn't excuse those horrible losses.

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

February 25th, 2013 at 2:39 PM | Would you sing the same tune (Score:1 Offtopic)
Gobgoblue
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if say, THJ was out and then McGary?

I love Greg Mattison

February 25th, 2013 at 2:59 PM | Yes. I think we could hang (Score:4 Normal)
OmarDontScare
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Yes. I think we could hang with Florida Gulf Coast and Indiana St without THJ.

Arizona might be another story. Might be

I got the shotgun. You got the briefcase. It's all in the game though, right?

February 25th, 2013 at 3:55 PM | Yeah sorry (Score:1)
Gobgoblue
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I meant Arizona.  

I love Greg Mattison

February 25th, 2013 at 2:24 PM | Reggie Johnson is not even a (Score:2 Normal)
ghost
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Reggie Johnson is not even a starter.  You don't hear us blaming our losses all on Jordan Morgan being out.  At least Morgan is a starter.

February 25th, 2013 at 2:29 PM | Really? (Score:5 Normal)
AAB
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I've heard lots of people saying February would have gone differently for Michigan if Morgan had been healthy.  

There is no time, sir, at which ties do not matter.

February 25th, 2013 at 1:57 PM | Wait (Score:5 Normal)
DH16
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You mean poll results don't make sense? That would never happen! These polls are always flawlessly accurate!

February 25th, 2013 at 1:54 PM | reframing (Score:5 Normal)
mistersuits
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Compared to how the basketball team has been for the past 15 years, with 4 games to go in the regular season this year's team's floor is now a 3-seed. That's pretty damn awesome.

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February 25th, 2013 at 2:01 PM | The Breakdown.... (Score:2)
LSAClassOf2000
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I just did the dump from Pollspeak into my tracker in Excel. The distribution of AP votes is interesting this week -

- 6 votes for 2nd place

- 15 votes for 3rd place

- 22 votes for 4th place

- 12 votes for 5th place

- 4 votes for 6th place

- 2 votes for 7th place

- 1 vote for 8th place

- 2 votes for 9th place

- 1 vote for 10th place

Here is the distribution graphically - last week (Week 16) as well as this week (Week 17, so you can see the shift), and the running average of the rankings:

 

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