Michigan finished 2nd behind Texas in terms of football profits in 2011/2012.
http://espn.go.com/blog/playbook/dollars/post/_/id/2556/texas-tops-in-fo...
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Look at Alabama spending 36.9mil. Gotta spend money if you wanna be the best perhaps we need to up the spending.
If you see someone in an airport with Michigan logos on luggage and they are wearing a pilot uniform come say hello.
Too late, someone already
Too late, someone already hired Kliff Kingsbury.
#Ihazasad
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I agree Dirty D
I find it amazing that a state like Alabama with all of its socio-economic problems. Has the two highest spenders in college football. Nobody spends more money than Alabama and Auburn and look what it has done for them. Auburn has taken a step back. But nothing is going to knock Alabama off its pedestal. Unless Saban leaves or some serious sanctions come down the pipe. They're on top for the foreseeable future. Michigan needs to start spending this money (in legal ways) to assure we are at the top.
To play devil's advocate, U
To play devil's advocate, U of Alabama's football prominence has helped(the warm weather and girls don't hurt either) to propel the school academically, attracting a much better caliber of student than they likely would have had they continued to flounder. Also, while it may seem disagreeable, people in Alabama are football-obsessed, and the dominance of Alabama may add more value to their lives than shaving 12-15 million off of their football budget to be used for other things.
They also do not have major
They also do not have major professional sports to siphon off their entertainment dollars.
In no way am I trying to be a
In no way am I trying to be a jerk here, but is there any proof that Alabama's success on the field has translated to a smarter student body? I know the Flutie Effect is considered a real phenomenon, but it seems fleeting at best.
I find it amazing that a
I find it amazing that a state like Alabama with all of its socio-economic problems
Do they really have worse problems than Michigan? We were the only state in the country to lose population last decade, our unemployment rate is consistently higher than the national average, our economic growth has been flat for a decade and our state tax base is shrinking. If we can manage to finance two successful athletic departments (U-M and MSU), why wouldn't Alabama, which is economically and demographically healthier than our state?
as bad as things
are in Michigan, we are not Alabama
People in Alabama probably
People in Alabama probably the say the same thing about Michigan.
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I agree with everything you said, and enjoy civil discussion. I live in Illinois, which is easily one of the worst states in the union. We have the worst debt per capita. I know Michigan, isn't much better off, if at all. But Alabama is at the bottom of everything. Obesity, health, education, average income. I know spending money on football doesn't help any of those things but it certaintly paints a brighter picture.
Household income data can be
Household income data can be misleading though. Southern states have lower average household incomes but also a significantly lower cost of living, so their money goes further. A person making $40K in Alabama may live more comfortably than a person making $45K in Michigan.
As for obesity, health and whatnot, I don't really see what that has to do with Alabama residents' ability to financially support their football programs. Based on what I observe at Michigan Stadium, it seems like a lot of our fans have pretty generously-sized waistlines as well. They seem able to afford tickets anyway.
Ironic that the states with
high obesity (southern) produce the best DL. These schools (live in Atlanta) also dedicate much more $ and time to HS football to create talent gaps vs other regions like the Great Lakes.
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Is the cost of living really
Is the cost of living really lower in Alabama than Michigan? Michigan has dirt-cheap real estate, low income taxes, and most else is close to fixed nationwide. What is cheaper in Alabama?
Big deal
Alabama has a population of 4.8 million, and their showcase program spends $36.9 million. That is slightly less than $8 a person. That works out to about the price of a double McRib combo with a side of lard for each resident.
It isn't driving anyone to the poorhouse.
To your point
A few years back Charles Barkley was considering running for Governor of Alabama. When a reporter asked about a possible run he said "why not, if it weren't for Mississippi and Arkansas, Alabama would be last in everything".
Michigan has no shortage
of socio-econmonic problems itself.
Don't forget, this is only
Don't forget, this is only judging the spending that is ON the books. Can Newton's alleged salary will not be counted.
This is pretty easy to figure out: football is important to the Alabama schools. Their donors and students want to win. Spending is the best way to keep winning.
You may wonder how they can afford it, but can't a state afford one or two things it really likes? $100 million between all football expenses in Alabama is a lot of money, but it's just peanuts compared to, say, the Detroit Tigers payroll or the cost of the new stadium Minnesota is going to build for the Vikings.
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I can't believe no one has
I can't believe no one has made a "Those who pay will be champions" joke yet.
You too jmblue.
You make great points, and bring up things I wasn't thinking aboout when I first posted. I just want to be good, I want to be champions!
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DAVE BRANDON CREATES WEALTH (and the future).
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Ain't no way to compete with Texas' "Man of the House" money
As much as people around here complain about Brandon's concern about the "Michigan brand" and all his money making schemes (which is totally fair, to be clear), they have no idea the extent to which Texas will sell their logo, name, etc to each and every bidder. The UT brand is stamped on everything in and around Texas without the least bit of shame.
Exhibit A:
I perfer this Man of the House movie
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At this rate, we can almost afford
2003 Maurice Clarett
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we can haz greene now?
we can haz greene now?
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Kevin?
Kevin?
I thought Notre Dame would be
I thought Notre Dame would be higher than it is, and I definitely thought OSU would crack the top-10. Texas is no surprise, but Arkansas kind of is.
Brady Hoke: Kicking Ass And Signing Names On The Recruiting Trail
When I read this
I wish I had LSU Freek's abilities.
With the 8th home game next year
we could be #1!! Go Dave Go!!
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We play at UConn.
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By No Small Coincidence...
It is actually the case that seven of the schools listed are also among the top ten in merchandise sales as well. Texas, Michigan, Georgia, Florida, Alabama, LSU and Notre Dame are all among the most profitable in this regard.
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We might be #1 here
We might be #1 here eventually if Brandon continues to up the donation amout and mack brown continues to let texas fall into mediocrity.
"Ohio is like a giant turd that Michigan just can't pinch off"
"Time to ditch that boring
"Time to ditch that boring old helmet boys! I bring you neon silver shimmering helmets with diamonds paid for by Domino's!" -DB
or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you're not into the whole brevity thing.
Should we be spending more?
There seems to be a significant disparity between what Ohio and Michigan spends. Should Michigan be spending more?
Also, how does this study split out "expenses?" That is to say, are capital expenditures to expand plant infrastructure accounted for differently from say, Hoke's salary?
"It does not matter how many times you get knocked down, but how many times you get up." Vince Lombardi
One of the problem with these
One of the problem with these studies is that capital expenditures (stadium improvements, scoreboards, practice facilities) get accounted for differently depending on the school.
It would be useful to see a breakdown of staff, facilities, travel, recruiting, food, etc.
Also... Michigan can afford a real OC.
God, yes, thank you! Data
God, yes, thank you! Data like this are never as clear and simple (or as comparable) as they might seem.
I don't endorse DB's sarcasm, because thats not a cool way to respond to constituents. But as someone who pokes around in higher Ed data for a living I can relate how exasperating it is when someone thinks a few articles or data tables tells them what they need to know to fully judge the organization's decision-making.
significant disparity between what Ohio and Michigan spends.
See Clarett, Maurice, et al.
given our struggles making
given our struggles making money, it is probably time to raise ticket prices.
I'm really surprised Ohio isn't in there
Maybe they're still paying the buyout clause on Maurice's contract
Brandon is doing his job well...
In a state that has felt the depression more than most...DB is all like:
“True loyalty is that quality of service that grows under adversity and expands in defeat. Any street urchin can shout applause in victory, but it takes character to stand fast in defeat. One is noise — the other, loyalty.”
My initial thoughts to this
My initial thoughts to this were I wonder how much more we would make if we were total sellouts in the big house and had ads and ran comemricals like nearly every other program does. I'm in no way in favor of this but am curious as to how much that would add to our profits.
Also, I have no clue what bama is spending 13million more dollars on. I assume part of that is coaching salaries but what would make up the rest. I feel like michigan program has everything it needs in terms of facilities, recruiting budget, etc. I just shocked that a program could be spending that much more than we are because I view us as a program that can, more or less, do what ever it wants.
this is really great news everybody....
By "right pricing" his "product" and ever more effective "branding", without concern for pitfalls down the road, DB has managed to turn a profit in just 1 year big enough to pay ARod's salary for 2, count 'em 1-2, years. I know I'll sleep better knowing our public, not-for-profit university is so effective at emptying our collective wallets. Looking forward purchasing another banner home schedule in 2014.
We're gonna play with toughness, we're gonna be responsible and we're gonna play with toughness. This is Michigan.
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