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I disagree. Florida is at 12 without doing much more than we have (I think Kentucky is something like SDSU, Tennessee is not nearly as good as ND). Texas is at 17 while beating nobody close to as good as ND or maybe even WMU or SDSU, I think UCLA could easily lose to either team.
Agreed. UCLA is terrible this season and shouldnt be counted as a good win - Their two wins are San Jose State and an Oregon State team that is absolutley awful. While our schedule shapes up to be decently easy this year, our OOC games were not neccesairily a cakewalk. ND is very talented and SDSU and WMU are two of the better non AQ teams out there.
Also, I think Alabama just looks like a monstorous team right now. They look like an NFL unit on defense right now it's gonna be tough to beat them. That game on Nov 5 against LSU is gonna be a hell of a ball game
Yeah that game is shaping up to be the game of the 2011 college football season. For all the shady things Saban does, the guy puts together rediculous defenses. He recruits amazing athletes and also makes sure they play with great fundamentals. Alabama is really the team that I hope Michigan becomes under Hoke (minus the shady things of course).
A Scout poster broke down the AP poll by voter:
Craig James again loves us, but now someone else does even more. For the first time, all AP voters put us in their ballots.
I wonder if that someone else loves killing hookers more than Craig James.
No one could possibly love KILLING FIVE HOOKERS more than CRAIG JAMES
We're definitely ranked a tad high at this point. We need more consistency on D for one thing. It's great that we've only given up 10 points in the last 2 games but SDSU made it into Michigan territory on 10 or 11 drives. The linebackers keep losing contain, the secondary is more lucky than solid, and the D-Line is still in flux.
On the plus side, kickoff coverage is much MUCH better. I like seeing consistent tackles made inside the 20 yard line. On a related topic, when Hagerup comes back he had better start hitting 50-yard punts every time, because our field position has not been great either.
I think we'll see a few more screen passes per game when we get into B10 play. Otherwise, we've seen plenty of innovation in the passing game (Jump balls to Jeremy Gallon!?) and I still have confidence that Borges will find the right passing attack for Denard's current skill set.
Isn't that a sign of good defense? The only reason SDSU scored at all yesterday was a fumble fairly deep in our own territory. Otherwise, the defense held or forced turnovers on every one of their drives.
As far as being ranked high, take a look at the teams above us. I'd say we were underrated before I'd say we were overrated, from a resume standpoint.
"bend but don't break" defense. I don't like seeing SDSU driving to the Michigan 30 before the D finally bites them. SDSU earned 20 1st downs to Michigan's 18.
They (and every other team) can drive to the one every time as far as I'm concerned. I'd take the 120th ranked total defense in exchange for the top ranked scoring defense.
20 first downs isn't all that many (ND gained 28 against us), and they got, what, four on their last possession of the game?
7 of those first downs (along with 110 total yards) came on SDSU's last two meaningless drives that began with about 6 minutes left in the game and SDSU down 28-7 with UM playing "prevent" defense.
The fact is, UM, for the first 3 1/2 quarters, did an excellent job of shutting down SDSU's offense (when the game was still on the line): 13 FD and about 270 yards. Pretty good work IMO.
Keep in mind that: 1) SDSU is a respectable team and received some top 25 votes itself a week ago; 2) several of those drives started in our territory because of turnovers and 3) they wound up scoring 31 points under their season average.
The stat about SDSU getting into UM territory 10 or 11 times is somewhat misleading. 3 of those instances they started in UM territory due to TO. In the first half, SDSU got into UM territory 3 times: UM 39, UM 40, UM 43. In the 4th quarter, SDSU got into UM territory all 4 drives: UM 40, UM 43, UM 33 and UM 13 but those last two drives were their final drives after UM had gone up 28-7 and was basically playing "prevent" defense.
So, 7 drives where SDSU started in their own territory and drove into UM territory with only 2 of those drives getting inside the "scoring zone" (i.e. inside the 35 yard line) and those 2, again, were the final two meaningless drives. UM's defense did an outstanding job of denying SDSU any real scoring chances.
MSU is ranked 2 spots ahead of SDSU in total offense. SDSU has the highest rated rush offense of that bunch too, and MSU's o-line is trash. Northwestern is #99(without Persa, but still). I think your argument is based a little too much on reputation and not productivity this year.
While MSU is a talented team and in no way an easy win, I think that there OL vs our DL will be what gets us this W. Their line is a complete mess and if our DLine keeps improving we will be able to slow down the run as well as pressure Cousins into making some bad decisions.
I wasn't trying to say that MSU was an easy win in the slightest, I was just challenging the notion that MSU and Northwestern's offenses were so much better than anything else we've been tested by so far. I'm terrified that Cousins will pick the secondary apart.
Who cares about polls. The goal is to beat ohio and win the B1G.
if michigan was 12-0 and wasn't ranked, i would be mad, wouldn't you?
The goal is to win the B1G and go to the Rose Bowl. I have zero faith in the BCS. They always find some way to magically fuck things up anyways. Believe me, IF Michigan were to go 13-0, there is no chance in hell they'd be left out. Michigan produces too much revenue to turn them away.
To be fair, the BCS has gotten the top 2 teams in the national championship every year. They really never fucked anything up as far as I can recall.
Well, Boise, TCU and Auburn might disagree with you depending on the year. Michigan as well in 2006, but with the Rose Bowl/MNC result they seem vindicated.
Defintionally that's exactly what they do. Only they set the #1 and #2.
If UofM goes undefeated there's no question where they'll play in Jan. Polls mean nothing if you're Michigan at this point. Just win, that's all you can control.
I think that is around where we should be ranked.
I think our defense has made huge strides. SDSU was the type of game that the last few years, we would have been in a race to outscore them. This defense, albeit with huge holes, has bent but not broken.
Our offense...I don't know if we have really taken steps backward, but Borges is playing around a bit. I think he needs to be careful going forward, because our margin for error is much less in the Big 10 than OOC games.
So far, I am happy. We will see what the Big 10 brings.
Never thought they would make this type of turn around in this short period of time. They are tackling much better and the DB's are not allowing tons of YAC. I was really impressed with Countess at corner and Jake Ryan and Roh are both making plays. Knock on wood. I hope it continues.
......until about halfway through the season, especially the way scheduling is now. If we're in the teens still at the middle of October, that wouldn't be too bad at all really.
Until late November, and then only if we're ranked 2 or 3.
Not to be a Negative Nancyyyyy but...I think you're a wee bit crazy if you aren't cautiously happy. The last few years we do well in NonCon, but once B1G play starts it's a rocky road..I am confident in our team, but cautious as well! Go Blue!
win the next two weeks and we're probably around 15. put little brother back in his place and then take care of purdue and we're around 10. it is exciting to think about.
Go blue! Lets see how deep the rabbit hole goes!
I enjoy the love Michigan's getting as much as the next guy. But this is not a real-deal top 20 football team yet.
There's a lot of work to do, and they may get there by the end of the season. But against the better B1G teams, I think they'll have to play over their heads, and Denard will have to pull off more miracles, to win.
I think they'll be fine going forward, because this year the defense is actually forcing turnovers and making big plays when needed
Too lazy to make a new thread, but Denard is one of the B1G players of the week. Good for him.