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Michigan #11 in coaches poll
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 PM
#602
A non mobile
October 2nd, 2011 at 2:06 PM
#603
Yep
You can say that again
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:12 PM
#608
i'm gonna go ahead and say
i'm gonna go ahead and say that's a bit high
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:29 PM
#609
I'm gonna go ahead and say
I'm gonna go ahead and say that's low. Michigan should never be out of the top 10.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:47 PM
#610
TIme to put on my shirt
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:23 PM
#611
What about Texas? They've
What about Texas? They've done basically everything we've done, why don't they get scrutinized to Top-10?
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:14 PM
#612
on
on the link look at "other" last team getting a vote.
on a 2nd look, then I noticed Duke ahead of the buckeyes.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:18 PM
#613
So what?
You are correct; it is a bit too high: but it is great for the program. And who's to say that MIchigan won't earn a top ten slot by the end of the season? We'll know a lot more in the next few weeks, as will the pollsters.
I'm just going to enjoy it for all it's worth right now.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:42 PM
#614
I agree, but
who cares? I would rather be too high than too low or lol, Michigan sucks!
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:04 PM
#615
I upvoted your comment
I upvoted your comment because it displays classic idiocy.
I bet you wish you could back to the Big 12 after last night huh? Ouch. You have no defense. How about you go look at the B1G standings and look at whose at the top of the division.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:39 PM
#616
Did you misplace your
Did you misplace your aggression or are you always this stupid when confronting 'displays of classic idiocy'?
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 PM
#617
Did you feel the same way
Did you feel the same way about Nebraska when they were ranked 8th? They suck throwing the ball, too, and our defense has actually been better than theirs.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:34 PM
#618
You are fucking dumb. If
You are fucking dumb.
If the AP and coaches all went on an acid trip tonight, saw the glory of MICH in the universe and revised their polls so that we were ranked #1, it would be nothing but a plus for our program.
Our ranking is important, as there are recruits in this class, as well as in subsequent classes, waiting to see how well Michigan performs this year. Even if we are not a top ten team as far as our ability is concerned, it doesn't matter as long as recruits see, "Michigan is ranked #11? They must be on their way back."
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:02 PM
#619
We're 10th out of 15th of the unbeaten teams
I actually think that's about right and the way it should be (a little more backward looking based on W-Ls than on forward/Vegas projections). It'll take care of itself as long as W-L is the top factor.
FWIW, Sagarin has us at #12 using his RATING metric (#9 using his points-based PREDICTOR). http://www.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/fbt11.htm (still not WELL-CONNECTED).
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:17 PM
#620
Wow. Way to high. I think
Wow. Way to high. I think we can beat NW, but honestly, I don't think we can get my MSU. That would be crazy going into the MSU game as a top 10 team which could certainly be possible. Geez.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
#621
When's the last time
we were as high as #11? I feel like 2007 before that "thing" happened.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:26 PM
#622
In 2007 before The Horror, we
In 2007 before The Horror, we were ranked at 5, before the Wisconsin loss that year we were 13.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
#623
Why can't we get past MSU?
Why can't we get past MSU? They haven't played anyone save for ND. OSU is simply not good right now. I think it will be a good game, but I think we can pull it out. They haven't proven anything yet. Of course, neither have we.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:25 PM
#624
Not that we can't beat them;
Not that we can't beat them; we certainly have a chance. But you don't get to the #1 D in the land, even when the highest ranked O you played that you didn't lose to is ranked only like 96. That D is good. They pressured OSU like none other and played inspired and got off blocks. I'm just not confident enough in Denard's passing to be able to go over the top on them when they bring pressure. Our O-line is going to have to play smart and physical.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:35 PM
#625
Don't forget that OSU still
Don't forget that OSU still has several players suspended. This offense hasn't been solid all year. I am worried about the MSU game, but beating OSU isn't that big of a deal. Notre Dame is better than OSU...I almost think Western Michigan could beat OSU and if you laugh at that...isn't Western better than Toledo?
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:41 PM
#626
I think Western and Toledo
I think Western and Toledo are probably gonna play for the MAC title (or the division title; I'm not sure of MAC alignments). Also Temple could win too. But Western could and probably would give them a run.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:42 PM
#627
My analysis was so good it
My analysis was so good it had to be posted twice.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:51 PM
#628
Technically, FAU is an FBS
Technically, FAU is an FBS team.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:17 PM
#629
Exactly
While tOSU managed only 178 yds of total offense against MSU, they also only managed 209 yds versus Miami-FL.
RIght now, tOSU is a bad team. We'll see how they fare now that the suspended players are back, but they need help in the trenches more than at the non-QB skill positions, and they're only getting back a so-so starter in OL Mike Adams & last yr DT reserve Solomon Thomas.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:23 PM
#630
It's incredible to me that in
It's incredible to me that in the last few years, Michigan, OSU, Texas, Florida, USC and even others on top of that have either had terrible seasons or seem to be in for one this year.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 PM
#631
posted from iPhone
Yeah msu with their scary offense. No way we can score more than 10 points in a game. Dude we have numbers on our helmets.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
#632
Everyone is saying too high,
Everyone is saying too high, but I honestly haven't seen many other teams outside the top ten that I don't think we can hang with. Another thing we are forgetting is that this team may be for real. We have a good shot at winning the Legends, and if we do that, we should be a fringe top ten team. It is early, but not many other teams have the resume we do.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 PM
#633
people is scared...
I think many of us here are worried about the let down we have suffered the last couple of years after strong starts. It hurts less if you stay gaurded. We just have HOke things will work out better this time.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
#634
Really
after watching the games the only team that looks better than us in the Big Ten is Wisconsin who we do not play.
We beat ND which pounded MSU which pounded OSU. Neb looks overrrated and beatable.
Purdue Iowa NW all look poor. We could be 12-0 meeting Wisc in the big ten championship.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 PM
#635
I like where your heads at
I like where your heads at son! I will be able to agree with you a little more about the 12-0 thing when we beat Nebraska to go 11-0. I can easily see 9 wins being our floor though.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:27 PM
#636
OK, I think you're getting
OK, I think you're getting way ahead of yourself. After the MSU game we will have a much better understanding of how good we are, but until then it's waaaayyyy to early to think about a 12-0. We could also end up 5-7 too. We have no idea how the breaks of a football season are going to treat us.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:31 PM
#637
Incorrect
We can't end up 5-7. Purdue already has conceded the Oct. 29 game to us. As a boilermaker fan, I am just hoping that we can beat Minnesota. Got no chance in hell to beat Michigan.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:58 PM
#638
I would bet everything I own ...
vs. everything you own that we do NOT lose our last 7 games. This is probably the stupidest thing I've seen written on this blog ... EVER.
Go Blue!
October 2nd, 2011 at 6:08 PM
#639
Let's just get to October
Let's just get to October 22nd perfect before we start talking about our matchup with Wisconsin
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
#640
Too high
That's too high considering we haven't even played a road game yet... but exciting nonetheless.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:19 PM
#641
Congratulations to coach Hoke
Congratulations to coach Hoke and the team. They've fought, executed, and played together as a team. They deserve to enjoy the exposure.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:20 PM
#642
To be fair, if Denard can
To be fair, if Denard can play every game like he did yesterday, then this ranking might be legit.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:22 PM
#643
Wow
I honestly thought we'd be sitting around #15. While I'm definitely excited about our team this season, I think #11 is a little high considering we haven't even played on the road yet. If we dominate NW next weekend, then I'll probably think differently. But I'd definitely like to see if our effort on the road can match what it has been at home first.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 PM
#644
We're seeing the benefits of being Michigan
having Denard, beating ND in a memorable prime-time game, and beating the living crap out of a conference opponent in a shutout. Rankings at this point in the season are pretty meaningless. We'll get a much better picture of where we're at in the next two weeks.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 PM
#645
The Real Test
The real test will be for the defense on the road against Persa imo. Clear Northwestern convincingly and maybe we are deserving of that rank.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:27 PM
#646
i agree
I really look forward to this game saturday because it is going to be a huge test for this team. A big win will make me feel better that this isn't a 5-0 and then lose the rest of the season team.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:23 PM
#647
ugh so overrated.
Mich better than Florida? No way. We should be in the upper teens still.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:57 PM
#648
Out of curiosity, why
Out of curiosity, why Florida? Is it just because of the name? They just got smoked by Alabama and their best win is a ten point victory over Tennessee at home. I wouldn't say they've done anything to be ranked above us.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:25 PM
#649
I don't like being that
I don't like being that high. Here is to staying focused and beating Northwestern on the road and going into the MSU game healthy!
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 PM
#650
I like being ranked that
I like being ranked that highly. Why? Because it means we're 5-0.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:59 PM
#651
posted from iPhone
Yea but if Michigan loses to a lesser opponent. All my friends will make fun of me and tell me we were overrated. I don't want this to happen.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:26 PM
#654
This is way high in terms of
This is way high in terms of actual quality of team I think, but as far as resumes go, it's right where we should be. I think we're probably around the 20th best team in the country right now, but respect is nice.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:54 PM
#655
I'd say 14-15
Name 19 better teams...
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:47 PM
#656
Seriously, why is everyone so
Seriously, why is everyone so down on our ranking? We beat the one good team we played and we blew out every other team. We haven't looked perfect, so if we were ranked ahead of Stanford or Wisconsin or Alabama I'd agree. But of the teams ranked below us, who is better? Georgia Tech? I doubt it. Nebraska? Not after last night. Auburn? They should have lost to Utah State. We've taken care of business against a schedule that's not that bad. Sure, we played 2 MAC teams and Minny, but we outscored them something like 120-10. Both SDSU and ND are good squads we won both of those as well. Why not put us at 11/12?
October 2nd, 2011 at 2:05 PM
#657
To elaborate on that:
Texas is ranked one spot ahead of us and snuck past BYU 17-16 the week before Utah hung 54 on them. Other than BYU they've played Rice, Iowa State and UCLA, none of which seem good. This is one season removed from 5-7.
Arkansas is one behind us, and has beaten TAMU who's probably somewhere around ND in terms of strength. Then they have a twenty-four point loss to Alabama and wins over juggernauts Troy, New Mexico and Missouri State.
I think we belong where we are.
October 2nd, 2011 at 3:58 PM
#658
Concur, but it's the specter of the recent past that's
...on many person's minds (MSM and MGoBloggers as well).
I don't think our ranking is too high. It seems OK to me given the first five weeks of NCAA football v2011.
I think much of the "too high" sentiment is based on history of the past two seasons (5-0 start followed by bad things). But, I cannot buy into that thinking. Different years, different teams (both M and the rest of the B1G), and most importantly, different coaching staff. I suppose - given the recent past - it's human nature to be wary at this point, but, to me, it seems irrational.
If a series of bad games is in our future, then we'll drop out of rankings (as we should), but, predicting or expecting that based on 2009 and 2010 is baseless (and using that to inform thinking as to where this M team belongs in the rankings at this point in the 2011 season is equally baseless).
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:29 PM
#659
Ohio
I wonder how they got their 1 vote? Fickell? I would be willing to bet yes.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:38 PM
#660
The other big ten coaches
Should be ranking osu very high in an effort to have fickell keep his job.
October 2nd, 2011 at 2:06 PM
#661
I'm going with
Dantonio in an attempt to make them look good for when he attempts to land that job. He needs national recruiting in Columbus too!
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:31 PM
#662
More than anything...
It was just a matter of tons of teams ahead of Michigan losing. Are we the 11th best team in the country? Prolly not, but poll rankings factor in equal parts timing and reflection of play...this week certainly illustrates that.
Also...58-0 looks mighty mmmmmmmmmn tasty.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 PM
#663
Holy Jesus
thats high
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:30 PM
#664
This is how ratings work
They are always more based on record and scores than things like how teams actually look, especially early. If we're not that good (and we probably aren't), then it will show later. For now, enjoy the #11 spot and the effect it may have on new recruits. Hopefully a certain RB from Ohio takes notice.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:33 PM
#665
this all good feel and all that, but...
we haven't played anyone else that is ranked. i prefer to see the team earning it, and not just being the objects of a popularity contest.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:36 PM
#666
Who cares about polls. Just
Who cares about polls. Just win. The goal is to beat ohio and win the B1G. This is Michigan.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 PM
#667
fergodsakes
fergodsakes
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:36 PM
#668
(No subject)
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:36 PM
#669
We're ranked higher than
We're ranked higher than Nebraska? Um.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:48 PM
#670
posted from iPhone
I think we will have the healthier quarterback come November and after what I watched last night the same secondary problems. I'm not ready to bow down to Nebraska just yet.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:49 PM
#671
Did Nebraska look like a top
Did Nebraska look like a top 10 team yesterday?
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:37 PM
#672
Big Ten needs high ranked teams
Agreed it's a bit high but it helps everyone involved in the Big Ten. Lets face it the Big Ten is down right now so any strength of schedule (higher ranked teams) helps every one. Hopefully they over rank some other Big Ten teams because thats our only hope of landing in an important bowl.
October 2nd, 2011 at 9:33 PM
#673
I disagree - any important
I disagree - any important bowl would be drooling to have Michigan regardless of the Big Ten's overall strength. They have an electric QB, an improved defense and crazy fans that will travel anywhere. If Michigan has the wins, they'll be in a big game.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:38 PM
#674
We might be 7 or 8 by the
We might be 7 or 8 by the time we get up to East Lansing... makes me a little uncomfortable but I'll take it. IMO we should not be in top 15 until we beat both NW and little bro
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 PM
#675
100% agree
This 5-0 team is clearly better than the 2010 version, but i'm not completely sold until we finish these next two games. NW and msu aren't great teams, not better than notre dame imo, but beating them on the road will be a sign that we're officially over the hump.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:38 PM
#676
posted from iPhone
I thought we would be #12. I didn't think we would jump Arkansas after they beat A&M
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:39 PM
#677
Boise
Michigan being ranked 11 is no less believable than Boise at 4 if you consider the quality of opponents that they each have faced and the manner in which they executed. In Michigan's case, there has also been improvement each week.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 PM
#678
posted from iPhone
I agree and use this same argument.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:40 PM
#679
After
Bama, lsu and okla, it doesn't much matter. This year is a mess.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:42 PM
#680
I must say I'm startled by
I must say I'm startled by the reaction week after week when the polls are released. The consensus seems to be "Sheesh, that's way too high." Every time. No matter the ranking. Let's be thankful that the coaches of FBS football, who are experienced in what they do (though these are usually GAs voting), think we are deserving of this ranking.
This is OUR team. We are having a GREAT year. Let's not be paranoid that we are ranked too high, but embrace that we have had a great season and others are starting to take note.
This team deserves this ranking. They have gone out week after week and given their all in the name of Michigan. Don't disparage them by kvetching that they are not worthy of the praise they have been given.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:45 PM
#681
Who else had to google
Who else had to google "kvetching"?
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:06 PM
#682
no one
with a Jewish grandmother.
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:06 PM
#683
no one
with a Jewish grandmother.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:19 PM
#684
Good post
Good post. It runs against the existential angst that overwhelms this place on occasion.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:45 PM
#685
Has a book been written
Has a book been written exposing the AP as a farce, too? They voted us only one spot lower.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:46 PM
#686
#11
If they can more or less repeat that performance against some of the teams to come, that #11 could be the real thing. By this, of course, I mean keeping the opponent's run game in check, bringing pressure and making everyone's D-coordinator say, "WHAAA?" when Vincent Smith, of all people, throws a TD. The next few games will tell undoubtedly.
October 2nd, 2011 at 12:57 PM
#687
AP #12
Sparty is gonna go apeshit. They dropped out all together.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:07 PM
#688
"zomg lol scum is ranked 11th
"zomg lol scum is ranked 11th and we're not ranked that's how we like it same as last year we're gonna beat scum 45-7 now lulz"
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:02 PM
#689
Meaningless...until end of
Meaningless...until end of november
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 PM
#690
nebraska is overrated imo.
nebraska is overrated imo. Didn't everyone say penn state was gonna come in and dominate the big ten back in 1993? Well not last night. Welcome to the B1G, bitch.
October 2nd, 2011 at 3:39 PM
#691
Wisconsin was favored by 10.
Wisconsin was favored by 10.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:16 PM
#692
the analogy to boise st is good...
who have they beaten that they deserve such a high ranking? are they even better than michigan? how do we know?
i'm just going to appreciate the ranking for now, because while we may or may not end up this high at the end, the fact is that no one else out there has earned it more than us. it's just true.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 PM
#693
posted from iPhone
We all know that rankings this early are just "feel good" rankings and don't mean much. So let's accept the good vibes and stop being paranoid! This is when it's fun!
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:32 PM
#694
Nice issue
I'm just thankful we're having a debate on whether we are ranked too high in the polls.
Thanks Brady & staff.
October 2nd, 2011 at 1:44 PM
#695
AP has us at
AP has us at 12
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/rankings/ap
A little high but The coaching and the rapid improvement have earned a lot of it
I think teams are a bit afraid to play us at this point. They just dont know quite how to prepare for an offense that is wisely coached and has an innovative coordinator
The defense has shown an ability to improve each weak and make adjustments at game time.
I would hate to have t o devise a game plan against us
October 2nd, 2011 at 2:07 PM
#696
Do I think Michigan could
Do I think Michigan could play some teams we've passed in the rankings, like Florida, Auburn, South Carolina, or Virginia Tech, and be confident of a win, next week?
Honestly, no. Not at this point in the season.
But we're probably deserving of being the second highest ranked team in the B1G, and we're improving.
Nebraska was only impressive for the first quarter against Wisconsin, and then was exposed. OSU is reeling. MSU isn't dominating this year, and Illinois is playing like they did last year, scoring lots of points in flashes, but also giving up points on defense. Iowa is a good team, but also not an overpowering juggernaut.
One nice thing about our schedule is that instead of playing Sparty the first week after non-con play, we get Northwestern on the road. While that might be a test, it will also be another opportunity to improve before taking on MSU. I tend to think that is a better thing than having a bye week before the MSU game.
We have the ability to win out and make the championship game. Will we capitalize on that ability and do it? Who knows. But it is certainly there for the taking.
That's why I'm not worried about the rankings. Things will take care of themselves.
October 2nd, 2011 at 3:50 PM
#697
My top 10
LSU
Wisconsin
Alabama
Oklahoma
Stanford
Oklahoma State
Clemson
Oregon
Boise State
Arkansas
I would put Michigan at 11, but only because of how poor the quality of teams is this year. It is shocking to see us this high, but if you look at the teams around us, it really doesn't seem that outrageous
October 2nd, 2011 at 4:49 PM
#698
I'm not sure why people think
I'm not sure why people think MSU is such a great team. Yes, the OSU offense only scored 7 points against the sparty defense , but they also only scored 6 against the Miami Hurricanes. The same Hurricane defense that gave up 32 to Maryland, 28 to Kansas State & 14 to Bethune Cookman. The Ohio State offense really is that bad.
The sparty offense only managed to score 10 against OSU and their only TD came on a pass that should hae been intercepted. (thrown into double coverage) The Buckeyes have a good defense but gave up more points to the Toledo Rockets (22), the Miami Hurricanes (24) and the Colorado Buffaloes (17).
So tell me again why we should be scared of the spartans? They were blown out by the only decent team they've played.
October 2nd, 2011 at 5:06 PM
#699
Everyone quit complaining
Everyone quit complaining about ranking, this is like getting a 90% on a test you didnt study for and being mad because you thought you deserved a worse grade. Take the A- and enjoy it.
