No doubt we have a chance
Why not?
Why not?
"There was a time I could have been mistaken for Burt Reynolds. I had a moustache and so did he. But he was the number one star in the world, so there wasn't really much confusion."
That's
.. really good!
Yeah, we are pretty fucking
Yeah, we are pretty fucking cool and everybody is seems to be listing us #1 these days.
I doubt it will be sooner
I doubt it will be sooner than the ND game. AFAIK he hasn't even been to campus yet, it'd be pretty crazy for a kid to commit to a place he's never even been. (Although not unheard of. Magnuson did it, IIRC.)
CJK5H
It actually happens a lot
It actually happens a lot more than you would probably expect.
IIRC, Magnuson
called coach Hoke from the block M to go blue.
"I promise you we would have walked to the University of Michigan." - Brady Hoke
I thought that
was Kalis? Or did they both do that?
It was Kalis.
It was Kalis.
Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords.
-Pompeius Magnus
He said he made the decision
He said he made the decision to visit two weeks before he came here, though. And he'd never been to Ann Arbor before. So it amounts to pretty much the same thing.
Don't quote laws to us. We carry swords.
-Pompeius Magnus
Well Payton is visiting for
Well Payton is visiting for the Notre Dame game, but Darboh is trying to get his visit in for the Western Game. Hmm...gonna be interesting how that plays out...
I'm sure the coaches wouldn't
I'm sure the coaches wouldn't turn down Darboh and Payton if they both wanted to commit. They've said they want 2 WRs in this class and I don't believe that has changed.
The only way we don't recruit two WR's is if Raymon Taylor ends up at WR.
I could see that. If we sign
I could see that. If we sign a third CB, and it's a top guy like Reeves or Wright, then we could take one WR and move Taylor since we'd be set at CB for a while. Either scenario works for me.
Taylor
Raymon Taylor is an All-American WR these days at U of M....in my NCAA 2012 dynasty..Thought I should share proof of how good he is. /s
IMO, we should still take 2
IMO, we should still take 2 WRs despite the Stonum news. It's not guaranteed he's coming back, and we need that depth. Not sure if the coaches agree, but it'd be interesting with Darboh seeming to be leaning blue and visiting for WMU with his family and Payton coming for the ND game. Getting those two would be great
ITS GREAT TO BE A MICHIGAN WOLVERINE
Look at 2013 and 2014, they
Look at 2013 and 2014, they absolutely need two wrs this year.
The counter argument to this
The counter argument to this is that WR is one of the positions that true freshman can actually contribute right away, although they usually have to be pretty good (i.e. Mario, Braylon, Terrell, etc.) But, say a DT can pretty much never be a decent contributor their true freshman year. So, one could argue that we should pass on a WR in favor of another lineman, because in 2013/2014 our depth looks scary in those places as well, but they need more time to develop.
Braylon only caught three
Braylon only caught three passes as a freshman. Terrell caught 14. Manningham made a bigger impact but (outside of the PSU game) wasn't really a go-to guy - he had 27 receptions, or just over two per game.
Even stud WR recruits often don't play that much as freshmen. It takes them time to learn the playbook and get on the same page as the QB, and a lot aren't good enough blockers as well. If a frosh WR becomes a major contributor, it's a bonus.
(No subject)
"It has been my experience that those with no vices have very few virtues"
Really?
Why does anyone think Stonum staying
Why does anyone think Stonum staying should mean one less WR recruit? The majority of freshman don't contribute and if a frosh is starting he's either a future all-american or your team if pretty aweful (see last year) at that position.
2012 WR recruits will either not overlap at all (redshirt) or only overlap by one year. Fact of the matter is none of us are sure about any of our current players starting in 2013 at WR so grabbing at least 2 high level wide outs is a must.
T
Well
It has more to do with the fact that wide receiver is a position that is easier for a freshman to contribute than almost any other position.
Donny, you're out of your element!
That's true, but they still
That's true, but they still don't often contribute very much. How many times in the last 15 or so years has M had a true freshman receiver get more than about 10 catches for the whole season. Odoms was an anomoly for sure, but he was the only slot receiver the team had.
Off the top if my head
Mario and Breaston( I think he was a true frosh).
"Þetta Er Ágætis Byrjun" Turtles!!! Formerly Dlash15
Breaston redshirted
We really could have used him as a returner that year.
Eating is murder.
pretty sure Breaston
pretty sure Breaston redshirted. Remember hearing reports of him tearing it up on the practice squad.
Ruuning back seems to be the
Ruuning back seems to be the easist. WR greatly depends on the offense. If the routes have a lot of options that both the QB and WR need to read, then it's a lot tougher for a freshman to effectively play.
Cornerback is up there as
Cornerback is up there as well. If a guy has the ability, he can make an impact right away - Ty Law, Charles Woodson, William Peterson, Marlin Jackson, Donovan Warren.
#1?
In the article I saw, Payton listed Michigan and Cal as his top 2. Has he come out and said Michigan leads Cal?
yes
Michigan is number 1 acoording to Payton then Cal.
Here's a quote from that story
"Michigan is up there. So far, they are my favorite. I'd say Michigan is 1 and Cal is probably 2," Payton said. "I like everything about [Michigan]. I like the school, I like the coaches… I like all that stuff."
University of Tom Brady, B.A. '10; University of Peyton Manning, J.D. '13.
Pipeline to Oaks Christian
I think Payton would be a huge get for us for many reasons. For one, he and Darboh are the two receivers that I most want. But besides the obvious need for receivers, I think Payton also helps us more in future recruiting. He goes to Oaks Christian, which has put out many D1 prospects the past few years and this could be huge in getting a pipeline to that talent-rich school for future recruits.
Hokemania...Gotta catch em all!
i want darboh the most out of the WRs
but we need both so it is no big deal. i am willing to bet darboh will commit as soon as he visits because nobody goes to the western game unless they have intentions of committing
But sir, but sir, BUT NOTHING
i hope they have room
in the class for me
Not possible. 247 lists his
Not possible. 247 lists his interest in Michigan as "None"
Really?
I would trust Rivals before 24/7.
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
OH DANG
DANGITY DANG!
Tremendous!
I think...
Payton see's what we have in Denard and Devin and what we have coming in with Shane and I think he likes what he sees. We have a real good shot at landing him and Darboh and solidifiying this class as one of the best in the country!
LETS GOO!!! this is great to
LETS GOO!!! this is great to hear....a commitment from a WR like payton would fill out our class (save the elite prospects), and give full attention to fall camp and the future classes. It seems that recruits are really feeling hoke's down-to-earth, prideful nature. I love it
Immigration papers for entry into #hokenation; COMPLETE!!!!!!
Awesome! It's a pretty big
Awesome! It's a pretty big deal if we are leading before a kid even steps foot on campus and sees the big house.
Perfection is not attainable, but if we chase perfection we can catch excellence.
- Vince Lombardi
No doubt we have a chance here, but I wouldn't get too optimistic just yet.