WE LANDED ON THE MOON!
this may be of some local interest
WE LANDED ON THE MOON!
He has said he hates Michigan dozens of times.
I've never heard him say it, although - admittingly I don't watch PTI that much but caught that the other day
I don't really care that he hates Michigan - plenty of people don't like Michigan. He's worthless other than his coverage of the NBA, anyways.
What irritates me is when Northwestern is doing well he mentions them non-stop. When they are doing poorly, he acts like he didn't know the school even existed.
He's also stated numerous times he would gladly send his son (Lilbon) to Michigan. If he hates us, it shouldn't shock us; we were voted the most hated team in the Big Ten.
Haha for "Lilbon".
How is this news? He has often said that he hates Michigan.
Didn't watch the clip, but he has been very public with his hatred of Michigan over the years.
this is the precise opposite of news.
Is a known N/western commodity /mouthpiece. I cant blame him for disliking Michigan, except for the 2000 season, when has N/western really done any REAL damage to us??
When they beat us at home in 1995 it was a punch in the face. They were historically horrid for centuries and all of a sudden they beat ND in the first week then come to Ann Arbor and beat us.
And then the next year we blew a big lead in Evanston. 2 straight losses to a bunch of nerds that we used to beat 42-10 year in and year out.
So, I'd say that 1995 was the shock of losing to a shit team. 1996 was the shock of reality that they were at least competitive. And 2000 was the shock that they were actually here to stay (along with the gut punch way we lost). And 2008 was just fricken' cold, miserable, and sad to watch.
That's 4 times they've done damage to us.
In both of those games in the 1990s, we were also undefeated and ranked in the top 7 (1995: 5-0 and #7; 1996: 4-0 and #6)
dull. Kind of a PLEASURE to see his sorry ass muttering that after we defenestrated his team in OT for the second game running.
Now there's a word I haven't heard in a long time.
OUT YOU GO, WILDCATS
... but I don't recall Michigan throwing anybody out of a window.
but their hopes were.
Incidentally, I'll be interested to see what Wilbon says today ;)
It's a good day. I learned what defenestrated means.
you never took European history and learned about the defenestration of Prague.
it was, in his opinion, the most important single event in Western history.
Incidentally, Mr. Dickman also tried to convince us that his last name meant "warrior of the forest" or some such thing in German. He was wrong about the name thing.
moderator: please spell... "defenestrated"
10 year old: can i have it in a sentence?
moderator: The wolverines defenestrated the wildcats in OT for the second time this year.
10 year old: Can I have the definition?
moderator: defenestrated, to throw out of a window.
10 year old: Can I have the language of origin?
moderator: Latin, from the latin word for window fenestra.
10 year old: defenestrated..... d.... e......f......e.....n...e.....s.....t...r...a....t...e....d... defenestrated.
10 year old: (while fist pumping) YES!!!!
The guy just said it was a must win for Northwestern. Not really a big deal.
Towards the end he actually stated "They're playing the school I hate the most"
But it's fairly old news that Wilbon hates Michigan, he's stated it before, and is pretty biased against us.
Exactly. The guy went to Northwestern. How's he supposed to feel about Michigan? His hatred honors us.
What a coincidence.
it was news to the OP
We're really good at things and people hate us for it. Get used to it. A Northwestern alum isnt allowed to hate on the best school in the B1G? Where's the news here?
Is it just me but I actually don't mind the guy. Homerism aside (from both parties) I do enjoy watching both him and Tony do their thing on PTI and they've done a great job over the years. Does he have his biases? Sure, but that's part of his role in my opinion, and he's not a complete jackass about it (see Baless, Skip and Cowherd, Colin)
I don't mind the guy most of the time. I rarely see him bash/hate on michigan the few times I catch the show. Everybody is going to have their biases. He could do a better job of hiding them, but he seems to be doing ok for himself.
Every unabashed fan of one school hates at least one other school. Most of us hate MSU and/or OSU. Alabama and Auburn hate each other. Etc. Wilbon is a columnist, not really a reporter, so who really cares if he hates Michigan? He went to Northwestern, and since Northwestern isn't very good at sports that anyone cares about, then not many people hate Northwestern.
He hates Michigan because Michigan is good at a lot of things, including academics. He can't feel superior over Michigan, and that seems to bother him. Oh well.
Alabama and Auburn hate each other.
You've a fine hand for understatement. :-)
As for Wilbon ... meh. Seems a bit too proud of himself at times.
Wilbon is just another grad of just another school that hates Michigan and sees them as a "rivarly game."
Honorable Mention: Tennessee. They still complain about "Peyton Manning's Heisman" going to Charles Woodson.
You forgot penn state.
After our decade of dominance they really have a disliking for us.
Wilbon bothers me much less than Cowherd and Jim Rome. He seems a bit more grounded & can admit when he's wrong at least (which, lets face it: if your job is to give opinions all day you are going to be wrong quite a bit). Cowherd and Rome actually seem to believe the crap they spew. I'll still listen to Cowherd now and then because at least he's entertaining. Rome is just obnoxious and not funny.
I think Rome does a pretty good interview. Rest of the time he kinda sucks, but for the interviews on his radio shows are always pretty good.
Wilbon isnt bad except his Chicago homerism which I understand he is from the Chi but damn take the blinders off.
Cowherd and Rome, both are horrible! Mike Valenti might take the crown as king douche bag and I refuse to listen to his show.
I bet he was crying yesterday.
Lost in OT TWICE to Michigan in basketball this season, got smoked at home in the 2nd half in football after leading by 10.
northwestern, please, stick to chess.
I think there was a thread about Wilbon hating Michigan a couple weeks ago. He's said that he hates Michigan out of respect or something like that. I believe Wilbon is an arrogant piece of shit due to how much name-dropping of his buddies goes on. Clearly wouldn't cut it as a Michigan Man so if he hates us, whatever.
EDIT: Question for anyone with more knowledge on the subject of Michigna/Northwestern. Is it normal for Northwestern fans to hate Michigan as much as Wilbon? Where does M lie on their hierarchy of rivalries? Thanks!
My experience has been that Northwestern hates Illinois most of all -- "Damn Pumpkinheads" is the phrase I've heard. I can't recall hearing much about Michigan from Northwesterners.
I've got degrees from both institutions. Northwestern doesn't have rivalries to the degree of any of Michigan's top three rivalries. Instead, NU's attitude toward other teams in the B1G is a strange mix of underdog challenge to established powers and smug assurance of intellectual superiority that combines Michigan arrogance with private school arrogance into a particularly obnoxious cocktail (see, regular chants of "state school/state school" for penalties called against other teams).
Illinois, if anyone, is NU's main rival, but it doesn't really generate much heat, largely because most students come to the school with no past alligence (and many with only passing familiarity with midwestern geography beyond "Chicago is south of Evanston.") To a certain segment of the Northwestern student fan base, all other schools in the B1G are basically the same: large public institutions to be viewed condescendingly.
I loved the education. Highly ambivalent about many of my fellow classmates. Which is true of most places, I suspect.
In football, Michigan's record vs Northwestern during Wilbon's college years (1976 to 1980):
That's not saying much because Northwestern's record during these years was awful:
There was actually a joke about their 34 game losing streak (which apparently started when Wilbon was still in school - 1979), something like "Interstate 94, Northwestern 0", a play on the fact that I-94 runs just west of Evanston.
Personally, I prefer to know the allegiances of the talking heads on sports talk radio and TV. Easier to decide if they are being impartial or not.
He went to NU and doesn't like UM. At least he's true to his roots, and it's not like he says terrible, inflammatory things about UM. Fine by me.
Growing up in the suburbs north of Chicago you quickly learn what a great school Northwestern is. It is amazing that in this modern age Nortwestern remains relevant in both football and basketball. One could have easily seen Northwestern athletics go the way of the Univ. Chicago, a former Big 10 power, still terrific academically, but not ESPN worthy.
They de-emphasized their athletics. Today they compete at the Division 3 level.
When people like Wilbon flap their gums like this, I instantly think of the old Firesign Theater line, delivered by Nick Danger: "The great prince issues commands, founds states, vests families with fiefs. Inferior people should not be employed."
If Wilbon hates Michigan he should hate everyone else in the Big Ten. In case he didn't know they get their asses kicked by everyone not just Michigan.
"I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not."
~ Kurt Cobain
with the Canadian flag waving guy sucks, Wilbon should hate Northwestern for failing to allow him to get a real job with real credentials.
A Northwestern alum doesn't like other B1G teams????!!!! I never thought I would see the day!!
I've always liked Wilbon and Tony on PTI, and personally, I find his fire for his alma matter and dislike against us admirable. AND it shows that the basketball team has become relevant again.
Michael Wilbon loves himself. Alot
mutual and he will hate us even more in the years to come. I really don't get how these turds interject their personal biases on a national program. Do they not get that it's all about ratings? I refuse to watch him and I believe I am not alone.
Let's face it. Pretty much every other B1G school hates us.
I'd rather have good athletic programs and be hated than be the loveable losers that can't make the tourney like Northwestern.
When I was down in Champaign for the football game against Illinois, they acted like it was the biggest game of the year to them. To us, it was just another Big Ten game while waiting for the Nebraska and Ohio games.
It's a good thing he hates Michigan. It makes me like him more. Means he's a Big Ten guy. He went to Northwestern. He's supposed to hate Michigan. It's not like he went to Texas A and M and hates Michigan. If you went to Northwestern you'd hate us too and I'd expect nothing less. Look at the history of beat downs we've given them in the past.
My 2 kids and I were walking around the Northwestern campus Saturday and even hung out at the Starbucks in the Student Center. Each of us was sporting a Michigan hoodie. No one said boo to us, seemed to notice or care.
Now that the game is past, I'm rooting for NU to win out and get in the tournament.
Nuts to Wilbon; he's a blowhard. TK, however, is funny.
with the collapse of Illinois I hope NW can put a good run together and make their first tournament.
This isn't new news. He can mutter all he wants under his breath, but the feeling is mutual
We can't respect him for being a journalist with an opinion?
At least he admits it unlike half the writers from our "own" Detroit Free Press.
...isn't he just Charles Barkley's caddy? He used to be a good writer (as did Kornheiser) but just plays up the younger grouchfoil on PTI to Kornheiser's avuncular grouch. Haterz gonna hate, but it gets ridiculous sometimes.
Of course, when he went to NW we were repeatedly thrashing that school to the point of existential doubt, so at least there's an ethos involved.
His main job now is to kiss up to a select group or super stars and badmouth lesser talents.
and really sucks to not be. I would hate us too, if didn't bleed maize and blue.
lack of success against us or in general any Northwestern alumnist should be upset.
lack of success against us or in general any Northwestern alumnist should be upset.
Especially a seemingly educated and rationale guy like Wlbon. It makes no sense.
journalists should not say who they hate or love. It greatly undermines their credibility. It's one thing to give your opinion about a team or sport or athlete. But when you cross the line and say that you love or hate them, it's not being objective any more. At that point, you've lost the right to be taken seriously as a TV analyst, or sports reporter or whatever Wilbon purports to be.
Wilbon has always seemed too predictable for me.
I'm not a Northwestern fan and I never wear purple! He wears Blue sometimes.
That proves it!
I think Magnus is on to something. It's not just athletic dominance. If that were the case, he would hate nearly every team in the Big Ten.
But with the others he can look down his nose and convince himself that at least Northwestern is clearly superior in academics. He can't do that with Michigan, and it bugs the shit out of him.