Miami Sanctions Released: YTM will lose 3 scholarships a year for 3 years, no bowl ban.

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Per WQAM's Joe Rose show, UM will loss nine scholarships over next three years. No bowl ban. Announcement at 10 a.m.

— Barry Jackson (@flasportsbuzz) October 22, 2013

This is also being reported by the Miami Herald and ESPN

The NCAA came to this decision after shaking their magic 8-ball.

MikeCohodes

October 22nd, 2013 at 10:14 AM ^

Here's the link to the official NCAA report, which I was just about to post up here but you beat me to it so I'll just throw it in here rather than start a new thread. (Mods- You're Welcome)

NCAA report link 

The highlights:

  • Decade long lack of institutional control
  • On probation until October 21, 2016
  • 2 year show-cause penalties for two former members of the football coaching staff
  • 5 game suspension for former hoops coach (now at Mizzou I believe?)
  • 2 year show-cause penalty for an assistant hoops coach
  • loss of 3 scholarships per season for each of the next three seasons in football
  • limit to unofficial visits of tickets to only one game a year for next two years to a potential recruit
  • loss of 1 scholarship per season for each of the next 3 seasons in hoops
  • And this one, which I thought was rather interesting: 
  • For all sports, any staff member who sends an impermissible text to a prospect will be fined a minimum of $100 per message, and coaches will be suspended from all recruiting activities for seven days.

mgobaran

October 22nd, 2013 at 11:59 AM ^

If you want to watch professional athletes, watch the NFL. I want to watch Michigan Men play football for their school, and for their teammates. Not for money or strippers or tattoos or cars or houses. 

We play one team that cheats per year. And they might not even be a dirty program anymore. Okay, okay, sorry. Either way. We didn't lose to Penn St. because they cheated. Some would say that we should of had an easier time beating them because they hide a pedophile. We choked away any shot at a National Championship this year. And every year since 2006, we have lost to teams who didn't cheat.

You can complain about losing a National Championship to cheaters when we get to the National Championship and lose to those cheaters. Michigan has to hold up there end of the bargain against other B1G programs first though. 

lilpenny1316

October 22nd, 2013 at 12:29 PM ^

I want to believe they cheat.

But there was little chance we would have made it to the MNC at 13-0.  Looks at OSU.  If any combination of Alabama, Florida State and Oregon runs the table, we get shut out.  In fact, a one loss SEC team would get in over an undefeated OSU.  

The B1G is officially a pillow fight league.  At least that's the perception.

If you read Mark Schlabach yesterday, you'll see another articble about how in-conference losses in the SEC are apparently the result of playing other star-studded teams.  They're so good that they beat up on each other (ie. It's not fair that the SEC is so freaking awesome).  In the B1G, if OSU loses to anyone in the conference, they suck and should walk the plank.

That perception only changes when we're back where people are accustomed to seeing us and we start winning some real non-conference games.

gwkrlghl

October 22nd, 2013 at 12:16 PM ^

There's basically no punishment for cheating at this point. The deadly 'vacated wins' thing one removes stuff from the record book, not from peoples memories of who won.

In just the past few years, the following schools have been accused of fairly significant impermissible activities only to see nothing happen

  • UNC
  • Miami
  • Oregon
  • Ohio State
  • Auburn
  • USC

And what's the worst any of them got? I think OSU with a bowl ban and some scholarship reductions? In exchange for a few BCS bowls in the reign of bad activities? Worth it

umfan323

October 22nd, 2013 at 10:26 AM ^

Got the shaft by the way....10 years of infractions compared to 1 person yet USC penalties were far worse

In reply to by umfan323

lilpenny1316

October 22nd, 2013 at 12:31 PM ^

The most the NCAA probably would've given them were a 2-3 year bowl ban, which Miami self imposed on themselves.  The scholarship reductions seem somewhat light, but I think Miami was wise to self impose some sanctions (especially when their team was only good enough for some mid-tier bowls).

trueblueintexas

October 22nd, 2013 at 10:29 AM ^

In total, between self impossed and NCAA sanctions they had a two year bowl ban, minor recruiting restrictions, and a loss of 9 scholarships over 3 years (in addition to the individual coach penalties)??? This in response to one of the more prolonged disregard for money and benefits being given to student athletes? Let's revisit Miami's record over the past few years to see how much bowl money they gave up due to their self imposed sanctions.

2012: 7-5 Overall, 5-3 ACC (UNC finished ahead of them for the ACC championsip game)

2011: 6-6 Overall, 3-5 ACC

2010: 7-6 Overall, 5-3 ACC

So, they banned themselves from an ACC title game they didn't even acheive (unless UNC was also banned due to sanctions, yeah, that's a great mark for a conference). And they lost out on two years worth of crappy bowls. I think Miami actually made out on this deal by not having to pay to send the team to two crappy bowls.

UAUM

October 22nd, 2013 at 10:34 AM ^

That guy gives Miami the very essence of what so many of the NCAA restrictions are supposed to prevent:  competitive advantages through the use of benefits otherwise unavailable to amature athletes.

Here, Miami got benefits from Shapiro for the singular purpose of recruiting better athletes to sign with Miami.  

The NCAA is useless except for organizing a basketball tournemant in the spring. 

 

 

 

LSAClassOf2000

October 22nd, 2013 at 11:01 AM ^

So, if the comments under the Miami Herald article are any indication, the net result is that Miami fans are now MORE excited for the FSU game moving forward than they were before the sanctions. As NCAA sanctions go, this seems like a logical reaction to their effect strangely enough. All is normal in the world of the NCAA, it seems. 

Michigan4Life

October 22nd, 2013 at 11:02 AM ^

administrators and players who were involved with the scandal.  Don't understand the punishment on the current team who had nothing to do with it.  It would make for a better consequences by the NCAA IMO.

Michigan4Life

October 22nd, 2013 at 12:25 PM ^

for the current players who didn't know about the sanctions until the past year to get punished for something they had nothing to do with it.  I'm a bigger advocate for punishing the administrators, coaches and players for it than punishing the current program as whole.

 

Look at Michigan when they had Tommy Amaker, they were unfairly punished for something they had nothing to do with Ed Martin. Same thing applies.

Toasted Yosties

October 22nd, 2013 at 11:25 AM ^

it allows a few individuals to instigate cheating schemes that allow a program to unfairly recruit, enabling a program to grow to levels it wouldn't have reached by following the rules.  Attacking the program with sanctions hits at the reason behind their cheating.  If the NCAA only goes after those specific individuals, no matter what happens to them, they still succeeded in the intent of their unfair tactics.  If I were a wealthy EMU alumnus, I'd start paying players, bring in talent that wouldn't otherwise be at EMU.  Years later, if I get caught, but I helped EMU rise to Boise State levels of success at the cost of me being disassociated from the program, I'd say it was well worth it.

Mr Miggle

October 22nd, 2013 at 3:38 PM ^

In most of these cases the school is complicit in the cheating. They purposely have feeble compliance departments run by the AD. They often know or should know about rules getting bent and broken and do nothing. They may even encourage such behavior. The differences between how OSU's compliance operated and how they claim to work now is striking. The NCAA relies on schools to police themselves. This is happening while schools realize they're getting dinged when they get caught. I can only imagine how they would operate if they knew the punishments would only fall on the coaches or boosters who got caught.

superstringer

October 22nd, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^

Dudes... based on this, here's my idea.

My oldest goes to HS near Woodbridge HS.  If everyone reading this sends me a $20 bill, I'll compile them and drop them in a big maize n blue envelope with DaShawn's name on it, and hand it over to him.  Match that dope, 'Bama!

And in, what, 7 years, the NCAA will release its findings, and give our alma mater a, oh, 1.5xPI scholarship ban for SQRT(0.65) years, and we won't have to give back the 2 NC trophies in the glass case.

Who's wit me?

Toasted Yosties

October 22nd, 2013 at 11:36 AM ^

Why not?  And that's ONLY if you get caught.  Worst-case scenario, disassociation and a few scholarships deducted with whatever success achieved on the field.  Best-case scencario, they never find out and  Michigan wins multiple Titles.  I wonder how many teams that have won National Titles over the last 30 years are working under the best-case scenario?  I'm guessing many.