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Miami Dolphins to part ways with Jake Long?
January 2nd, 2013 at 10:55 AM
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Miami Dolphins to part ways with Jake Long?
Apparently this.......is a thing. While in Miami for work, I was listening to sports talk radio, and they were all mentioning the likelihood Miami will be taking a Left Tackle in the draft. Being talk radio, I of course took it with a grain of salt. I don't follow Fins' news at all, so this was the first I'd heard rumblings of this. Curious, I looked for news on it, and sure enough, it's a likelihood Long won't be back with Miami next year.
http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-12-19/miami-dolphins-nfl-week...
What logic is there in cutting your ALL PRO left tackle? You just drafted a QB in the first round, Jake Long shouldn't be in the conversation of cost cutting moves. This would be Millen level stupidity and then some. How often are franchise Left Tackles on the market?
January 2nd, 2013 at 10:59 AM | 
Please
Please
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:53 AM |
This besides the hold me
This besides the hold me
This besides the hold me Lovie part.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:01 PM |
I'm praying that the Bears
I'm praying that the Bears
I'm praying that the Bears get him or Ryan Clady (also assumed to be going the FA route). I guess Carimi was never close to recovering from his knee injury, so he may still be an option at RT. I like Lance Louis at Guard. So if they could pick up Long or Clady, and draft the best available linemen in 2 of the 3 first lines ... who knows. The Bears have almost all the pieces elsewhere to win immediately. It's sad that Knox was hurt, he would be a nice #3 WR. I think we'll be able to find a serviceable TE in Free Agency as well.
January 2nd, 2013 at 12:29 PM |
Bears trade up in the draft?
Bears trade up in the draft?
If the Bears can't pick up Long (which I'd give anything to see), my #2 option would be to see them trade up in the draft so they can pick up Lewan (assuming he goes Pro). Either way, it'd be great to see them pick up either of these two stellar UM products.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:45 PM |
Exactly, that was the first
Exactly, that was the first
Exactly, that was the first thing I thought of when I read this post. Jake will be heavily sought after, but this is where the Bears need to take a gamble like they did with Peppers. Understand that the back-end of the deal may need to less money since his production may decrease, but give hime some guaranteed bucks on the front-end to ensure he will come.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 1:34 PM |
Nah
Nah
If anyone needs Oline help its the Cowboys. Broken ribs, and straight shots at the QB (No I will not say his name). Doug Free is by far the worst OL. Long would be able to protect the QB way better and Jerry needs to open the check book and get this damn underachieving team back be being significant. Besides, there isnt a Wolverine on the Cowboys squad now, hence the constant losing.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 10:58 AM |
Isnt Long injured?
Isnt Long injured?
Isnt Long injured?
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:16 AM |
Correct
Correct
He has a torn tricep. Last year, he was done for the year with a torn bicep. And his production this year was hampered by the recovery (assuming) so his numbers weren't as stellar as he was used to producing. Thus it appears to the Dolphins he's in a "decline" at 27. Considering he's gone one year remaining, it may be best to trade him. While I don't know if it's the right move, they may want to try to trade him to get a 1st round pick for him.
January 2nd, 2013 at 10:59 AM |
Short answer: MONEY!
Short answer: MONEY!
What type of money do you think Jake will be asking for vs a rookie?
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January 2nd, 2013 at 10:59 AM |
The only reason I can think
The only reason I can think
The only reason I can think of is the fact that he has a contract under the old structure and they want to get a cheaper player.
Their loss for sure, Jake Long is going to become a prize free agent now, bring him back home Mayhew! (A man can dream right...)
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:02 AM |
You can...
You can...
Dream, but j think our cap situation is one of the worst in the league. Suh, stafford, megaton all drafted under old system. Calvin was restructured, but it didn't help much.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:45 AM |
If Mayhew can restructure
If Mayhew can restructure
If Mayhew can restructure that mess of big contracts into something cap manageable then he deserves a 5 year extension. yeesh...
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January 2nd, 2013 at 10:59 AM |
Jets Offensive line is
Jets Offensive line is
Jets Offensive line is horrible. You are more than welcome to the circus i call the New Jork Yets.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:03 AM |
Yets
Yets
There's a joke in here somewhere I just can't find it.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:00 AM |
Simple Really
Simple Really
With the new NFL rookie salary cap in place you can get say Taylor Lewan for a mere fraction of what you have to pay Jake Long. Lewan is also younger and has a longer career where Long has done time on the IR in the past two years.
Secondly, the new Miami coach is more of a zone blocking guy and Long doesn't fit that as well. They actually already appear to have Long's replacement on the roster in terms of a zone blocking tackle. Not bringing Long back frees up cap space for other moves.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:10 AM |
Well
Well
Jake Long would play at an all pro level in whatever scheme you run. The Texas A&M kid and Lewan aren't great zone blocking tackles either. Martin from Stanford who they drafted last year is suited for that scheme, because Stanford ran a lot of that. In their defense, you could probably sign 3-4 quality players for the money they'd save from Long.
January 2nd, 2013 at 12:20 PM |
I thought Lewan was pretty
I thought Lewan was pretty
I thought Lewan was pretty good when we ran zone...
January 2nd, 2013 at 12:20 PM |
Didn't we run a zone blocking scheme part of the time
Didn't we run a zone blocking scheme part of the time
when Long was at Michigan, or am I completely wrong?
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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:21 PM |
Yes, we did.
Yes, we did.
Yes, we did.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:01 AM |
I would love if the lions
I would love if the lions
I would love if the lions picked him up. Cost would be too much unfortunately. And they're gonna need to boost the defense via trades after they waste their picks on WRs to replace young and Broyles.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:33 PM |
Replace Broyles?
Replace Broyles?
He will be ready to go for the 2013 season.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:03 AM |
Money is the reason obviously
Money is the reason obviously
But cutting an All Pro at one of the most positions in football is bad bad football management. He'll be a Reggie White type of free agent, that's how good he is.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:08 AM |
Pretty sure long has 1 year
Pretty sure long has 1 year
Pretty sure long has 1 year on his contract I beleave. Miami will be able to trade him. Prolly getting a 1st rounder in the process
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:27 AM |
Says in the article his contract is up in March.
Says in the article his contract is up in March.
Which would match a 5 year signing in 2008. I don't think you'll get a 1st round pick for former 1st round picks in this day and age.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:55 AM |
He'll get paid, but he is nor
He'll get paid, but he is nor
He'll get paid, but he is nor Reggie White type free agent. Not even close.
January 2nd, 2013 at 2:18 PM |
He is not getting cut...his
He is not getting cut...his
He is not getting cut...his contract is up.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:04 AM |
I would say he would look
I would say he would look
I would say he would look great in Honolulu Blue. But I think the contract requirements and what Miami would get in trade would be a bit to much $$$
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:14 AM |
Why does everyone want any
Why does everyone want any
Why does everyone want any kind of talent go to the lions only to be mishandled and to deal with the worst moral that there possibly could be. I get that some of you are die hard lions and for that I respect a lot but that dickhead owner is the same person that fucked Sanders out into retirement.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:21 AM |
Not only that
Not only that
But the lions have one of the worst salary cap positions in all of football...if jake wanted to play for free, maybe the lions could get him.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:36 PM |
Not really. They have 30 free agents
Not really. They have 30 free agents
and they can free up cap space in restructuring Stafford's deal in the extension they will sign him to this offseason.
But in having said that they still won't have enough to sign Long.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:27 AM |
Good for Jake. Go somewhere
Good for Jake. Go somewhere
Good for Jake. Go somewhere where you can win something.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:29 AM |
Teams with the most cap space
Teams with the most cap space
Teams with the most cap space:
1. Jaguars $25 mil
2. Titans $19 mil
3. Browns $17 mil
4. Bengals $16 mil
5. Eagles $15 mil
23. Lions $3.7 mil
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:40 AM |
the colts will have almost
the colts will have almost
the colts will have almost $50 million in cap space after season and as a season ticket holder its been all over blogs about colts going after him to help out their line
January 2nd, 2013 at 1:16 PM |
Great first post! Welcome to
Great first post! Welcome to
Great first post! Welcome to the madness.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 1:45 PM |
Browns have Joe Thomas at LT,
Browns have Joe Thomas at LT,
Browns have Joe Thomas at LT, so you can scratch them off the list.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 7:56 PM |
*insert choice cuss word
*insert choice cuss word
*insert choice cuss word here*
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:29 AM |
Actually, it makes sense
Actually, it makes sense
I'm a former Phins fan and a longtime Jake Long fan. It was such a delight when they drafted him 1st overall.
Long used to be the best LT in football two seasons ago. But that's not the case now, because of his injuries. Not only did he miss time, but even when he did tough it out(which is definitely commendable), the performance suffered. That's reason one.
He was either the highest-paid or second-highest-paid OL since he was drafted under the old rookie salary rules. He hit some incentives and that pushed his salary even higher. It will not be easy to take a paycut, and taking a dramatic paycut while playing for the same team is damn near unheard of. Especially when your agent can get a lot more elsewhere. Reason number two.
Just as Michigan is transitioning from RichRod's spread to Hoke's manball, Miami is transitioning the opposite way. Sparano's run-heavy offense(Wildcat included) needed elite run-blocking linemen like Long. Philbin, the new coach, brought in the zone blocking scheme. Now Long can excel in both schemes, don't get me wrong. But whereas in a iso-blocking scheme nobody could come close to Long because of his individual talent, in the zone blocking scheme you can get away with relatively less talented OL and still somewhat get the job done. In short, you can get away with an LT half the price of Long but the product would suffer only a bit. Reason three.
The Phins already have a replacement. They drafted Jonathan Martin last year, and he's a natural LT who played at that position all his life. He only moved to RT because Long was there. It would be easy to flip him to LT and find a cheaper RT. Reason four.
With Long becoming increasingly injury prone and his contract expiring this season, Jeff Ireland and the front office made a lot of noise about an extension for the past two years but nothing ever materialized. And as I mentioned above, they went out and drafted Martin last year. When a local columnist suggested the possiblity that they might be planning to depart ways with Long, they(Ireland and co.) reacted with venom, angrily denying it and denigrating the columnist in the process. Which is, what they don't really do. Ireland is famous for asking inappropriate questions and being standoffish, not reacting to the media. IMO the front office was planning this all along. Reason five.
That one hurt.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:53 AM |
Philbin's background with the
Philbin's background with the
Philbin's background with the Packers gives a lot of credence to this take. He coordinated a Super Bowl winning team and a consistent playoff qualifier who never had elite offensive linemen, even at the tackle positions, and who viewed the run game as a change of pace rather than a core element of the offense. If Philbin's going off his Packer experience, he may believe that average linemen who can simply slow down the pass rush are good enough to win consistently, and that money can be better spent elsewhere.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:33 AM |
COLTS!!
COLTS!!
Come to the Colts and protect Andrew Luck's blindside!! Castanzo can move over!
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:36 AM |
one doesn't simply leave jake
one doesn't simply leave jake
one doesn't simply leave jake long
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:49 AM |
Being a Giants fan, I would
Being a Giants fan, I would
Being a Giants fan, I would love for them to make a run at him.
January 2nd, 2013 at 11:54 AM |
Miami has sucked since Marino retired,
Miami has sucked since Marino retired,
but Stephen Ross is a terrible owner (awesome Real Estate and donor, though!).
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January 2nd, 2013 at 11:57 AM |
Fins have a lot of cap room,
Fins have a lot of cap room,
Fins have a lot of cap room, something like 45 million. They are expected to use the franchise tag on Sean Smith.
January 2nd, 2013 at 12:00 PM |
Come to the lions. Move Reif
Come to the lions. Move Reif
Come to the lions. Move Reif to right tackle. Move Backus to back up or part ways with peterman and move him to right guard. Cherilus was a bust so let him go also.
January 2nd, 2013 at 12:17 PM |
I hope he goes to a contending team
I hope he goes to a contending team
but for God's sake, don't come to the Lions. I'd rather see him retire than suffer that ignominious fate.
January 2nd, 2013 at 1:03 PM |
Lions are a mess when it
Lions are a mess when it
Lions are a mess when it comes to cap space. They also need a ton of help at LB, CB and DE so I doubt they spend much money on FA o-lineman. I guess this is what happens when you suck for so long... keep picking in the Top 5 and under the old system you have to give huge contracts to guys like Stafford, Calvin and Suh.
January 2nd, 2013 at 1:04 PM |
I really
I really
Hate that I agree with you.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 2:20 PM |
And I hate that we have to
And I hate that we have to
And I hate that we have to see this comment and it's obligatory 5 likes every time we have a thread like this.
First off, it's a nonsensical comment... PLEASE ALL PRO LEFT TACKLE THAT COULD INSTANTLY MAKE THE LIONS OFFENSE MORE CONSISTENT AND THUS THE BEST IN THE NFL ON A REGULAR BASIS, DON'T SUFFER THE HORRIBLE FATE OF BEING PAID MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO COME BACK TO YOUR HOME STATE AND PLAY PRO FOOTBALL!
Secondly, we have to put up with all the people who cheer for other teams going COME TO MY TEAM PLZ and then if we do the same thing, people say nonononononononononono.
Also, frankly, I feel like this kind of comment comes from the "I only cheer for specific players who went to Michigan" crowd, who all suck ass.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 12:26 PM |
I hope you dont get marked as
I hope you dont get marked as
I hope you dont get marked as flaimbait don, you are supposed to want everyone go to the lions.
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January 2nd, 2013 at 1:34 PM |
you are supposed to want everyone go to the lions.
you are supposed to want everyone go to the lions.
I don't give a damn about flamebait negging, but IMHO no true UM fan should ever want a Michigan player to come play for the Fords, or for any other incompetently-run franchise.
Put it this way: what would the careers of Tom Brady or Charles Woodson have been if they had spent their careers with the Lions? It's horrible to contemplate.
Go to the Bears. They NEED you. I need you. Someone hold me... Lovie?
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