MI passes bill banning college athletes from unionizing
December 16th, 2014 at 6:23 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 6:25 PM ^
... this, this was the issue that really mattered to 9.9 million Michiganians. I wish our government did not see everything in black and white, but alas, garbage elected in, garbage produced out.
I know this is dangerous teritory, but fuck it.
December 16th, 2014 at 6:37 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:06 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 8:14 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:13 PM ^
I've never heard someone use this before. I know it's a real thing (and a supposedly legitimate alternative), but I've just never heard it said (or seen it written) before.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:22 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:35 PM ^
Or the alternitive Wolverines. As in "Those damn Wolverines came across the boarder to fight for the port of Maumee that we so correctly stole from them."
December 16th, 2014 at 11:04 PM ^
When I moved to Michigan 28 years ago, people told me that "Michigander" was reserved for those who were born here. Others are "Michiganians." Of course, that could be total bullshit.
The origin of "Michigander" is rather interesting. Attributed to Abe Lincoln.
December 16th, 2014 at 6:37 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 6:39 PM ^
I'm glad a bunch of millionaires decided to pass a bill that says a bunch of broke kids don't have rights or the right pool resources to ask for rights.
December 16th, 2014 at 6:48 PM ^
I disagree. The student athletes will retain their "pool resources" under this legislation. The IM building and NCRB will continue their regular open swim schedules January 6th.
December 16th, 2014 at 6:50 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:06 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^
State legislators typically aren't rolling around in money.
$71K (salary for a Michigan State rep) isn't bad, but it's not like they are millionaires.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:38 PM ^
The Billionaire puppet masters let them in on the secret that this just fart dust to keep people away from real problems.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:52 PM ^
Yeah because the 71k is totally usually their primary source of their income.
December 16th, 2014 at 6:43 PM ^
I would consider this bill the least worrying one considering all the other bullshit bills Michigan has been passing in the past month.
December 16th, 2014 at 6:45 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 6:47 PM ^
I'm not a labor lawyer, but wouldn't this be pre-empted by federal labor laws?
December 16th, 2014 at 7:10 PM ^
Employees of state institutions, like public school teachers (and U-M employees) are covered under state labor law.
Maybe an MGoLaborAttorney can weigh in.
December 16th, 2014 at 6:56 PM ^
Our legislature sucks
December 16th, 2014 at 6:58 PM ^
under the National Labor Relations Act, so this is basically a political act by the legislature, and likely to be struck down. It's a way for the **********-dominated legislature to signal its dislike of unions, but will have little or no effect on what happens with players' organizations.
One thing you have to say, though: the mere threat that they might form unions has placed a lot of behinds in gear across the country.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:01 PM ^
Not surprising given the other bills passed by the ******* legislature in the past few months.
lolol
December 16th, 2014 at 7:48 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 8:03 PM ^
Instead of making stupid comments ( the darker blue method )
why don't you try to explain why you disagree.
although the political line may not allow you to do so.
if that is the case, I apologize for wasting your time.
December 16th, 2014 at 8:17 PM ^
Mglobules has his facts wrong. The National Labor Relations Act defines employers and employees to exclude state employees.
Michigan has enacted a state law that allows collective bargaining for state employees. The bill being discussed here defines employees under the state collective bargaining law to exclude college athletes from coverage of the state law.
There is no federal pre-emption and there is no serious equal protection argument that would lead to the law being struck down by a court.
December 16th, 2014 at 8:18 PM ^
Thank you. That was helpful.
December 16th, 2014 at 9:55 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:01 PM ^
On Mgoblog, no way I am jumping into this one. Too opiniated and know better.
Harbaugh to Michigan!!!!!
December 16th, 2014 at 7:20 PM ^
Lets vote in a bill that only effects 0.001% of Michiganders, but not fix our roads.
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December 16th, 2014 at 7:23 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:47 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 8:30 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:47 PM ^
Let me get this straight. They:
- destroy teachers' retirements
- give themselves gold plated retirments, even if serving one term
- and pass laws preventing college players from getting just compensation
Congratulations
December 16th, 2014 at 8:05 PM ^
Especially on Mgoblog.
Michigan Legislature was more of a pre-emptive strike. Federal Government I do believe already has statutes regarding Unions in Public Universities, meaning not allowed for students. Private University's are another story.
I think the whole thing is a can of worms that doesn't need to be opened. To many factors, scholarships, personal trainers, I could go on. This would get very complicated if a public institution was ever to allow students to unionize. I am sure that there has already been alot of debate on the topic.
As for the government. When all of the voters finally decide it is time to clean house on every elected position in the country from top to bottom instead of letting the media influence the decisions, maybe we can take the country back little.
Politics is a taboo subject. Why don't we start talking about religion now.
December 16th, 2014 at 8:23 PM ^
From time to time the tree of liberty must be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:23 PM ^
prioritizing politics over winning football.
can they sink any lower
December 16th, 2014 at 7:28 PM ^
Death panels and now this damn you Obama. Edit: This is not a political comment on the president or anyone else. It is a satire of every conversation with more than three middle age white guys in it.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:32 PM ^
Have a puppy instead
December 16th, 2014 at 7:37 PM ^
"every conversation with more than three middle age white guys in it"
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December 16th, 2014 at 8:22 PM ^
Usually
December 16th, 2014 at 7:49 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 9:02 PM ^
Oh great. Now being race into it.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:33 PM ^
I am not a fan of unions but I also don't like politicians always getting in the way. As long as unions partake is fair practices (not coerce temp employees, smearing campaigns, etc), they are in the private sector (public sector unions are a complete BS), and most importantly as long as they don't use unfair tactics to force every employee to join, then this should not be a choice of politicians but rather individuals.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:49 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:37 PM ^
December 16th, 2014 at 7:48 PM ^
There's bound to be a test case. Does anyone know of one already being litigated in another state? If not, does Michigan's labor law (or other factors, such as the law school) make it more (or less) likely to happen here?
December 16th, 2014 at 8:16 PM ^
Last I read Northwestern Private University voted last Spring and it is still in appeals court. Until the appeal is finished they won't release the results of the vote.
December 16th, 2014 at 8:50 PM ^
A New York Times article about Northwestern's appeal to the full NLRB says the term of one member is scheduled to end today, and "a flurry of decisions" often comes when a term ends. So there's likely to be a decision soon. Maybe even tomorrow.