Mgoprediction thread: SI article

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So now that this article is coming out today/tomorrow and is probably something BIG (if it indeed is related to the timing of tressel resigning), What are everyone's predictions of the allegations?

The Denarding

May 30th, 2011 at 11:20 AM ^

Ted Ginn Sr. is a guarantee (I have heard this from multiple sources so I am starting to believe it now), and "friends" of the program (hooking up athletes with what they need or where to get it) - this probably explains the girls paid for sex.

Drug dealing would have been hard to hide if it was tacitly approved by the coaches.  That seems just brazen - even for Tressel.  Then again....

Zone Left

May 30th, 2011 at 1:15 PM ^

School sanctioned drug and prostitution rings are a over the top. Could a couple of players sold weed (or even worse) on the side over the past decade? Sure. Could some football groupies (every school has them) have been pushed towards recruits? Definitely. That said, there's no way the school sponsored it.

If that stuff happened, it's time for OSU to deemphasize sports permanently, but I think that's some Michigan fan's wet dream.

justingoblue

May 30th, 2011 at 2:12 PM ^

I agree, but on the other hand you have Smith acknowledging that there is probably more coming, and you have media types saying that this story is about as bad as it gets. 

At this point all I want is for them to be ineligible for the first BTCG, but otherwise qualify and have us qualify on the other side. Add in Dunn and a couple years of USC level scholarship reductions and I'm more than happy. Especially since I think they're not getting a big time coach in 2012. Fickell will probably stay on for the sanctions.

MGoPalestine

May 30th, 2011 at 11:22 AM ^

Just kidding, but they will get hammered, the question is how close to the death penalty will they get if all the allegations I've heard on the board here are true.

lilpenny1316

May 30th, 2011 at 11:24 AM ^

Dohrmann doesn't play around.  When you can cite working on the Michael Vick dogfighting case as your favorite work and that's not the piece that gets you the Pulitzer Prize (ie. Minnesota grades scandal), that tells me it's going to be throrough and hard to refute.  I'm sure that there are enough bitter players, professors and other people from the last ten years to rain hellfire on Columbus.

mGrowOld

May 30th, 2011 at 11:31 AM ^

There was a movie a few years ago called "Miracle Mile" that dealt with how civilization would react in those hours between finding out that the nukes had been fired and there hitting the ground.  It isn't pretty to say the least.

I live in Cleveland.  Sports talk radio is absolutely lighting up right now as they try and speculate as to what's coming.  What's even funnier is to listen to them try and come up with excuses for evertthing that "might" be released before it happens.  And every about 5th caller or so gives the "well I knew something wasn't right" revisionist history rant and gets absolutely hammered by everybody else.

They are starting to turn on each other now.  Just like they do in the movie.

This is beyond wonderful.

Tater

May 30th, 2011 at 11:32 AM ^

Remember the original Clarett accusations?  Golden handshakes, "hostesses" from the local strip clubs, cars, "tutors" to save them the hassle of mundane things like going to class and taking tests?

Multiply that by ten years.  Tressel wouldn't have resigned just before the article if a pattern of wrongdoing hadn't been discovered.  Even now, former OSU players are treating this as though he had been a paragon of integrity for all of those years who made one bad decision and got fired for it.

Tressel knows the Scarlet Wall of Denial has been torn down, and the pieces implicate him in what could be one of the biggest scandals in NCAA history.

samber2009

May 30th, 2011 at 11:34 AM ^

Claiming tressel had to fly home from vacation regarding the information about the upcoming article.  He is also saying this must be BAD.

VinnieMac25

May 30th, 2011 at 11:37 AM ^

NCAA must come down hard.  I know Tress resigned and it might lighten what the sanctions will be.  Please include a bowl ban.  USC lost schollies too.  Ouch.  Just imagine if that happens to them. HALOL.  SMH

Geaux_Blue

May 30th, 2011 at 11:37 AM ^

But its going to be bad enough where the inevitable will be obvious. I would think the true bomb would be published in hard copy a la their OMG ALL ATHLETES ARE CRIMINALS exposé

SwordDancer710

May 30th, 2011 at 11:51 AM ^

The death penalty requires them to already be on probation for grievous offenses. There's no chance they get it now (IIRC their previous probation ran out years ago), but if they get caught doing this again a few years from now, then the death penalty is an option.

After the utter destruction that SMU went through, I doubt that the NCAA will ever use the DP again.

Edit: Beat me to it. =)

HouseThatYostBuilt

May 30th, 2011 at 12:19 PM ^

I don't understand why people keep saying that you have to have previous major violations to get the death penalty. It's simply not true. The last two programs to get the death penalty (Morehouse soccer and MacMurray tennis) had absolutely no history of previous violations. At least in the case of Morehouse soccer, the death penalty was imposed because there was "a lack of institutional control".

It seems to me that OSU lacks institutional control, but I guess that's for the NCAA to decide.

Zone Left

May 30th, 2011 at 1:23 PM ^

From the NCAA's website:

 

"The ‘death penalty’ is a phrase used by media to describe the most serious NCAA penalties possible.  It is not a formal NCAA term.  It applies  only to repeat violators and can include eliminating the involved sport for at least one year, the elimination of athletics aid in that sport for two years and the school relinquishing its Association voting privileges for a four-year period.  A school is a repeat violator if a second major violation occurs within five years of the start date of the penalty from the first case. The cases do not have to be in the same sport."

They can impose without prior sanctions, but it's really unlikely that it happens at all. Heck, in Morehouse's case, the school didn't even know it had a varsity soccer team!

Eck Sentrik

May 30th, 2011 at 11:45 AM ^

It will be revealed that JT had a love child with Bea Arthur, won a midget tossing contest in 1989, and compulsively rips off mattress tags.

 

Oh, and he hates America...

psychomatt

May 30th, 2011 at 11:46 AM ^

The NCAA cannot possibly investigate all of these allegations adequately in time for an August 12 hearing, so either OSU admits most of it and agrees to very harsh penalties (at least as harsh as USC's) or the August hearing is pushed back significantly and OSU does not have any resolution of the situation until well after 2012 signing day.

Purkinje

May 30th, 2011 at 12:08 PM ^

It just has to be something ridiculously huge... I firmly believe that its contents are why Tressel is out today, on Memorial Day, rather than tomorrow.

Maizeandbluekid

June 13th, 2011 at 3:14 PM ^

Bart Scott, what are your feelings on the inpending Judgement Day for the Scarlett & Gray Empire?