Meyer will address poor recruiting in the B1G with other coaches

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Urban Meyer tells 97.1 The Fan he will address the poor recruiting in the B1G directly with those coaches at the upcoming coaches meeting.

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Meyer tells the fan it's concerning about the lack of B1G recruiting when there are 11 teams in the SEC up in the top 25 in recruiting.

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Urban Meyer argument is if the conference is strong it helps everyone but if they are not recruiting well it hurts the conference overall.

B1GHouse

February 8th, 2013 at 10:57 PM ^

Pretty sure a large part of recruiting, if not the largest part, is recruiting the player all the way to the finish and getting them to sign their LOI. Until they sign the LOI, recruits are fair game. You don't just quit because you're not in the lead. Conversely, you dont just stop recruitingnwhen you get a verbal. Hoke poached 3 in this class. It happens all over the country.
Also, Meyer stated last year that he would not recruit PSU players/recruits...but that he'd listen to them if they wanted out.

Mr Miggle

February 7th, 2013 at 10:31 PM ^

The criticism isn't directed at Meyer for poaching recruits. It's for telling the coaches they need to recruit better for the sake of the league - after poaching their recruits. Too bad Bielema left. I'd like to see his reaction.

Phil Brickma

February 7th, 2013 at 9:59 PM ^

I think the problem lies in the fact that he is implying that the rest of the Big Ten isn't trying to recruit well? It's not like Minnesota wants the No. 54 class in the country (just guessing). It's because they are Minnesota and ... yeah. They are Minnesota. Not a hotbed of talent, not an attractive school for top-end recruits. 

If the also-ran teams of the Big Ten classes could bring in the best recruits, I'm sure they would.

The Baughz

February 7th, 2013 at 9:55 PM ^

Execept Hoke. Since we, umm, finished in the top 5. Urban is a piece of shit. Wait til he goes 7-5 and has chest pains and has to renew his family vows.

Zone Left

February 8th, 2013 at 10:44 AM ^

I beg to differ. They are no longer a top 25 program. Yes, they have a huge stadium, but they aren't filling it anymore. Their in-state recruiting base is closer to that of Kentucky than Georgia or Florida in the SEC East.

They historically picked off recruits from Virginia, North Carolina, and South Carolina to build their classes and did so quite successfully. Unfortunately, the rise of prominent programs in that region has given them a lot of competition for those recruits, reducing their success rate and forcing them to cast an even wider net than they had to under Phil Fulmer. They need some of the big name SEC programs to be down for them to be a strong team.

Think about it this way. Michigan depends on Ohio, Illinois, Indiana, and Pennsylvania to bring in a large chunk of its class each year. We'd struggle big-time if Cincinnati, Pitt, and, say, Northwestern got really serious and became legit contenders for Michigan's recruits along with the traditional regional powers. That's how Tennessee is being squeezed. They used to be one of 4-5 big names in the South. Now they're one of maybe 9-10 and none of today's recruits remembers them being any good.

LJ

February 8th, 2013 at 11:17 AM ^

I agree that they compete with more good programs for their recruits, but they're also in on vastly more southern recruits, where the talent pool is much larger.  Here are their rivals recruiting rankings for the past 6 years:

2007 - #3

2008 - #35

2009 - #10

2010 - #9

2011 - #13

2012 - #17

Aside from the 2008 outlier when they were transitioning from Fulmer, that's excellent recruitng, and not all that far off pace of Michigan.  They've had some coaching issues, so they haven't been great the last 4-5 years (sound familiar?).  I think you overestimate the extent to which being a traditional power goes away due to a bad decade.  These guys won the national championship less than 15 years ago.  They get some good coaching, and they will be right up there with the other SEC powers.  Remember how recently Alabama was terrible?

The Baughz

February 8th, 2013 at 1:07 PM ^

I think what is lost in all this is that Ole Miss is not consistently brining in top 10 recruits. Sure they killed it in recruiting this year, but it's not like this happens every year. A lot of top players were from Mississippi this year and Ole Miss took advantage of that. They had a family history with Robert Nkemdiche, and they got lucky with some other recruits. So to compare a Nebraska or Wisconsin to these other schools is unfair, imo. If it happens on a consistent basis, then I would say there is a problem.

Wiscy just lost their coach and did not hire a big name. Iowa sucks and Nebraska is not what it once was. Vandy, Ole Miss, and Miss St are one the way up and they have an advantage being in the SEC. Tennessee is top program and will eventually be on the rise again. I agree Nebraska should at least be in the top 25.

Smitdog6767

February 7th, 2013 at 11:43 PM ^

Not to feed the RCMB trolls but State has no chance of consistently getting top 25 classes.  They're getting the leftovers from the midwest after us and Ohio (and Penn State to some extent) take the players that we want.  Sure some guys like Finley and Reschke fall through the cracks but even those guys aren't class makers but rather solid players that help to make up a good class.  Staee got hot when RR couldn't quite get a grasp on how to take advantage of the Michigan brand name locally and picked up some good players, those days are obviously over now and little bro will be back to mediocrity.  Hopefully we get at least a few good Valenti meltdowns (before he becomes an Ohio fan like the front running twerp that he is)

GoWings2008

February 8th, 2013 at 9:31 AM ^

I'll give him one thing, he is consistent.  I thought he was an asshole before he even left Florida, and now he's the asshole coach of our biggest rival.  Even more reason to hate on him as far as I'm concerned.  In comparison, JT may have cheated and he may have been the coach of our biggest rival, but asshole wasn't a label that comes to mind when I consider his career as a coach.

TheFrigz

February 7th, 2013 at 10:00 PM ^

I see this conversation going well. "Hey guys, some of us recruit OK, but the rest of you guys kinda suck.  Maybe you should do better.  Awesome."

Captain

February 7th, 2013 at 10:01 PM ^

I would be pissed if I was another coach...Urban beats out other Big 10 schools for some top recruits, then has the nerve to chastise their coaches for not hauling in better players?  Guy's going to get punched.

M-Go-Away

February 7th, 2013 at 10:01 PM ^

Is he saying the rest of the Big Ten coaches are phoning it in? On the heels of recruiting violations for his school no less? That's like Lance Armstrong accusing other cyclists of being lazy. Maybe he can do a session on "Using Your Health as an Excuse to Bail on Your Team". I didn't dislike him but he just made my list....once I actually get off my ass and actually write those names down.

tenerson

February 7th, 2013 at 11:01 PM ^

I think you guys are misunderstanding what he's saying. I think he wants to brainstorm ways to be more effective. There is no question that the B1G is behind. Night games were mentioned. That's a good point because a lot of recruits in the south have a long ways to go to get to a Big Ten game while some can drive or take a real short flight to an SEC game. I don't think this has to do with him chastizing the rest of the coaches as much as it has to do with figuring out ways to structure things in the conference to make recruiting easier or make the conference more attractive. It's pretty clear the BTN hasn't pushed them over the top. Ofc course, this comes from someone not in the "Fuck all things Urban" state of mind.