META: off topic etiquette?

Submitted by jdon on

The amount of people chiming in on OT posts to complain about OT posts is becoming absurd. Can we please place a moratorium on the complaining about complaining as well?

I don't want to play the it was better when card.  Nor do I want us to have to see a heightened presence by the moderators.  I just want to be able to read a thread without hearing about a hard-on, reading Magnus and the Rager go back in forth, or witness another draw in the perpetual battle between just what exactly is an adequate OT post and what is not.

love,

jdon

 

 

ps. this is my first, and hopefully last, topic I plan to start.  Please forgive any format or decorum errors.

EDIT: Someone below is correct - this is a "META" thread. To answer another question asked, anyone with enough points can create such a thread if they have a question about the site. LSA

cozy200

June 10th, 2013 at 6:49 AM ^

Assuming i was caught in the ire of those posts as well as i attempted to be the voice of reason and my comment was deleted. It all comes down to quality content and perspective. I'll say it again and again, some threads mean way to much to people. This is a place where i go to enjoy similar likes, with people everywhere. One semi amateur thread will never ruin my day or my time spent here. Let it go. This is a blog, nothing more, nothing less.

LSAClassOf2000

June 10th, 2013 at 7:00 AM ^

In one of the threads that I believe the OP is referencing, entire portions of the discussion were deleted, so if your comment was in one of those chains, it is the "collateral damage" being referenced in the e-mail that you likely received. That's merely a product of how the site is set up.

I believe the only time that only a specific individual's comments get deleted is if the comment itself has no replies or that user is caved, in which case threads stand a chance of not making much sense because replies to the caved user will remain. In my opinion, that's why doing block deletions followed by caving - if it comes to it - helps preserve at least some content in an otherwise well-meaning, on-topic thread.

kinny18

June 10th, 2013 at 6:54 AM ^

There are too many people here who think because they have 3000 points that they are the damn kings of the internet. Personally, I've started going to other sites because of the morons that have 60 replies a dealing with OT or grammar. it sucks having to wade thru all that bs.I am sure I'm not alone

mgobaran

June 10th, 2013 at 9:02 AM ^

count your chickens before they hatch. You never know when you'll have a meltdown and feel the wrath of the BANHAMMER!

2 more points to blow it....

CooperLily21

June 10th, 2013 at 11:40 AM ^

Careful . . . I hear profitgoblue is still disgruntled so he might dock both of you and give himself a bump!  It would turn into a war of MGoAttrition and no one will benefit (except the person the winner (profitgoblue, of course)).  (Yes, I just used a double parenthetical.  Don't hate the poster, hate the game!)

DanGoBlue

June 10th, 2013 at 9:39 AM ^

Grammar corrections are not an issue for me. I do think there is a certain "standard" this site pride's itself on and is the reason I come back to it time and again. (Seriously, no matter how bad you may think some of the comments here may be, just head out to other sites and read through their comments… not pretty). The correction replies do become a problem though when they devolve into gamemanship. It's the gamemanship which seems to be the more characteristic form of replies on a lot of threads these days. Instead of adding to the dialouge, many responders (whether they are kings of the internetz or plebes) seem to be vying to one up one another in an attempt to prove wit and author the next meme. Sometimes it's hilarious and appropriate, but more often (or perhaps just more recently?) it's become tedious and way too predictable.

eamus_caeruli (not verified)

June 10th, 2013 at 11:06 AM ^

I totally agree. To be honest, front page content has really been on a downward trend, and simply become very sophomoric in nature. Oh boy, this "board" is an embarrassment to our fan base. I have reading others as well, and coming less and less. Frankly, this is yet another thread where people are spilling the beans of displeasure and I would venture a guess nothing changes. So that usually means its breakup time...

Meta: I personally think the board should go away when MgoBlog 3.0 is launched. If Brian refuses to invest the time and money into making this a well-oiled functional place, or pay someone to create and monitor threads, then he should eliminate it. How many emails does he get a week about taddle tales and meanie people's posting bad stuff? How many bad threads or puerile post does it take before there is a breaking point? How many times must we see Upton, cats, or some dumbass comment about MSU before enough is enough? Or the worst, I come to the Internet to argue or be a jerk because my life sucks type comments before it is enough already?

jaylee714

June 10th, 2013 at 7:24 AM ^

And not only do I feel dumbier, I'm embarrassed. A vacation would do some of us very goodly.

GoBlueInNYC

June 10th, 2013 at 7:30 AM ^

This board is definitely getting way too testy about everything. It seems like every topic starts a massive argument. Any comment that isn't effusively positive about Michigan football gets shouted down as trolling. People need to relax and have fun. It's the off season. And it's football. Calm down.

GoWings2008

June 10th, 2013 at 9:35 AM ^

Very well said.  It seems like some people can't hear an opposing opinion without labeling it as trolling or off-topic or anything negative.  I think if folks relax, like you said, approach things with some humor and maybe more situational instead of a universal ruler applied to every post then things might be easier to stomach from everyone's perspective.  We (mostly) all have the same love of Michigan sports...can't we just have an easier time joking around together, too?  Without it becoming off-topic all the time?  

Just my 17 cents...

Rage

June 10th, 2013 at 7:51 AM ^

you're instigating the kind of dialogue this thread is talking about.  I think EVERYONE here needs to stop taking things so personally and stop getting worked up over petty things.  

You have a lot of good things to say, Magnus.  You shouldn't let a pissing match take away from that.  

Space Coyote

June 10th, 2013 at 8:24 AM ^

Honestly, what does everyone have against pissing matches? I remember when I was a kid - during the Super Bowl - drinking about a gallon of Mt Dew (before I started believing that it would shrink my balls), and having pissing contests in the snow, seeing whose yellow line would reach the farthest. I may not yet have been at my maximum length down there, but I had a stream that would make many a grown man jealous.

The point is, a pissing match is a good way for boys and men to compete on a level playing field while the men are drunk and the kids high on some sort of sugar/caffine buzz. Pissing matches get an undeserved bad name.

Rage

June 10th, 2013 at 8:31 AM ^

so it seems you're just mentioning his name and saying he's "not worth it", just to get a jab in.  

That's what it seems to me and that's what this thread is really about.  I'm not trying to preach from my soapbox, just see this as an example.

jdon

June 10th, 2013 at 1:29 PM ^

there are a couple people who constantly take pot shots at you.

1.)  if you respond then you become part of the problem.

2.) It is very hard to tolerate other people spewing shit and not respond.

 

take some solace in the fact that the casual observer understands where the fault lies (Rager, I'm looking at you)...

 

 

DirkMcGurk

June 10th, 2013 at 7:45 AM ^

Posting etiquette should be if you have something to add to topic please do. If your comment is.

1. To bash spelling or grammar errors-dont post

2. To simply say cool story - dont post

3. To simply bitch about a post or thread because you disagree without stating you opposite view - don't post.

Space Coyote

June 10th, 2013 at 8:48 AM ^

I'm actually a spirit guide that manifests itself out of moon and a planet in space. I have the soothing voice of Johnny Cash and I guide people to find their soul mates, but only after they eat 'the merciless peppers of Quetzlzacatenango' and have crazy hallucinatory visions.

When that's not happening I'm really just a talking dog.

Space Coyote

June 10th, 2013 at 9:37 AM ^

When people act like they're really the thing in their avatar. You know what "Space Coyote", you claim you're not a 'real coyote' and that you're really a talking dog. Well, news flash buddy, you would have a bunch of typos in your post if you were a dog because dogs don't have long enough fingers to properly use a keyboard.

Oh, yeah, and if you claim you're Hemingway and you're sitting at your desk typing a post, I'm about to drop a bomb on you, because Hemingway stood up at his dresser while he typed (yeah, I'm talking to you Moleskyn).

Don't get me started a manikin dressed in the UTL jersey, this isn't The Twilight Zone episode "The After Hours". And you, you're neither General Buck Turgidson nor George C Scott. I could go on (Brandon Graham, Rickey Vaughn, Stephen Kass's wife, Animal), but I think you guys get the point.

Space Coyote

June 10th, 2013 at 9:56 AM ^

But internet sucks in Peru. I highly doubt you'd be able to post within an hour of my post. And don't try to give me this "you're domesticated" crap. I've seen you domesticated llamas, and no offense, but I think your forum posting abilities would be closer to an Alpaca than anything else.

Moleskyn

June 10th, 2013 at 9:59 AM ^

Listen here, pal. I never made a claim one way or another about standing up or sitting down while typing, so my identity as Hemingway is still intact. Maybe we should be discussing the realities of a coyote being able to exist in space. I don't think it's possible. And even if it was, how would  you be able to type in a cumbersome space suite (assuming you even found a way to mitigate the lack of opposing thumbs)? What, are you going to tell me you've created a coyote-to-English voice-to-text translator? That'll be the day. 

There, I've exposed you for the fraud you are.

Moleskyn

June 10th, 2013 at 10:18 AM ^

Yes, but when a fraud exposes himself as a fraud, how can anyone believe him, since he is, in fact, a fraud? It is likely, in this case, that the fraudster is attempting to defraud the masses for some sort of fraudulent gain. For everyone knows that when a blatant fraudster tells you anything, you should immediately discredit said fraudster, since you can assume that you are being defrauded.

It requires a clearly anti-fraudulant (and preferably finely-bearded) man to expose a fraud.