Make me a MOD and I will clean this place up!
META: A surrender in the battle for nice things
Thank you for everything you've done here. I've always enjoyed your posts. Sorry to see you go. Why people refuse to understand that this is Brian's site and he can do what ever the hell he wants to (including deleting posts and comments he disagrees with, either himself or through the mods) is something I will never understand. It's his site. Don't like it? Find another site or start your own. I'm betting that the failure to understand that simple point contributes to 99% of the headaches you've had whole doing your job here. Good luck with the little one and hope to still see you around as "normal" poster.
I have been coming to mgoblog long enough, lurking for a couple years and joining a while back, to see posters and readers and protocol change significantly. There are many formerly active board members who have moved on, or who have made peace with just staying in the background. I understand, and have cut way back on posting myself.
It isn't easy being a moderator. Sometime, a long time ago, I posted a thankyou to ALL the mods who do such a good job. I don't think everyone here understands what a pain it must be to be a moderator. You guys have to read through every stinking post on every stinking thread. If you say anything in the least construed as negative, people get their shorts in a wad.
I've sometimes wondered about what makes mgoblog "good," and what would cause it to dengenerate. Of course, everyone has a different opinion. The points thing is a two edged sword. As Brian and mods have said, who really cares about points?
Having said that, I'm beginning to wonder if a return to "points" in the old days before the board melted down from some kind of attack would be a good thing. I don't completely like the "group think" aspect of points, but if the board community speaks, well, wouldn't that make things easier for moderators?
Maybe if the old system points came back, mods could focus on giving bonus chunks of points to thoughtful and well argued posts which espouse an unpopular position? I dunno.
I also think that more personal accountability is a good thing. When people have to stand behind what they say instead of this anonymous internet tough guy stuff, it makes people a bit more civil.
Regardless, thanks for your service to the board, your wit, your contributions. They will be missed.
I think the mods all work hard at an utterly thankless job. Sorry to see you go but I totally get it. As much as we all love MGoBlog, raising your kid(s) is fantastically more important, fun and rewarding. Like others, I agree that letting the MGoCommunity moderate this site will be effective. Power to the people and all that.
Good luck with Little BiSB.
you say you can't deal with the immaturity and insistence on acting like children....yet you support people posting random pictures of cats
Because cats are always funny. Being a douchenozzle seldom is.
Thanks for all your work BISB - especially in the (ever chaotic) liveblog!
lurker and infrequent poster (as evidenced by my low point total) i too have cut back on posting and reading this site.
It wears on you after awhile.
Good luck on the little one BiSB. I thought you did a helluva job and you will be missed.
I always appreciated your sense of humor, and your MOD work. You will be missed. Good luck with the baby. I hope you at least pop in to say hello to the board once in a while, and deliver one of your nice quick-witted jabs.
No fanbase can treat a thrilling win worse than a loss like us.
raise the points to post period...
Understandable especially since it seems you have much more important stuff going on. With that said, seems like a pretty childish way to go out
Sorry to see you go, BiSB. It gets tough modding when so many unujustifiably assert that any moderation is "censorship of unpopular dieas" and "groupthink," but that's the internet for you. I am of the opinion that everyone should be forced to be a discussion group moderator for a year somewhere, and no one should be asked to do it longer than that.
Thanks for your contributions, and I hjope you stay as an ex-mod. You have paid your dues, and have more than earned your ex-mod-dom.
I'll even go through the verification process to post this! :)
MGoBlog is different, and for the better. Having said that, I do think the mods need to chill a bit and let people post. As long as there is no obscenties or overt trolling/flamebaiting, let people post, man.
I like BiSB. I'm sure it has not helped with all the Notre Dame fans in South Bend driving him crazy. They probably sent him over the edge....
That being said, as a Mom, I totally need to hear what kind of baby he has and what he names said baby. At least let us know that....
Kind: Wolverine/human hybrid.
Name: Baby in South Bend, right?
Sorry to see that you are putting down the moderator's internet point thingy, I seldom found fault with your decisions, and that is amazing in and of itself.
As a former moderator of the site,I sympathize with and agree with what you say.
But may I suggest, to any mod, that this thread get locked at this point? A 200 post thread debating the merits of BiSB, and the status of the boards devolution doesn't seem, to me, to serve any purpose. Best case is that it becomes a sort of obnoxious hagiography of BiSB and the more cynical posters can accuse him of martyring himself (I'm not saying this was his intent)
Catharsis. Long season means they don't get to vent meta for months, and locking it just means the garbage moves to a new thread.
Honestly thank you for your mostly thankless job. But also, I'm glad to see you moving on (not trying to be a dick, though I suppose I am being one). I like a moderating hand, but not a controlling, snarky, its'about-me moderator - which at times I felt that you were. I say that fully knowing that I could *not* do the job you have done. I get that. But I'm also being honest b/c I think this opinion is healthy for the board to discuss - how do we want our mods moderating?
"(not trying to be a dick, though I suppose I am being one)"
Very astute of you...
I've always said I could care less about "points" and that BS. On phone and use the android app so can't see and don't care anyway. Other than "Ace" and "Brian", I have no idea who has what standing on this site despite being a viewer for years and a poster for a couple. My point of this reply is two fold: The first point being that having been a Scout Premium and (much longer) non-premium member, mods treat their title like knighthood and all eventually "step down" in this manner after they themselves act like clowns and dictators for a period of time. I guess having a tiny bit of internet authroity REALLY goes to the ego?!? Anyway, I've read this exact resignation a dozen times over there. Don't know if you acted like this as I never paid too much attention to you (didn't even know you were a mod) but mods "stepping down" on the scout board almost always followed jackass behavior for a long time. Their insistance of title equaling always being right, knowing more than others and censorship of honest fan opinions slowly builds a hatred toward them. I Technically still have an account there with over 3k posts but haven't posted in a while due to that as I always stood up for the right of ANY true Michigan fan (those clearly not trolls) to voice their opinion no matter how unliked. Most blow the mod and agree with their every thought and deed but I often butted heads with them standing up for the right to post an onbviously non-troll opinion of a fellow fan that they mocked, insulted or deleted. I truly hope you weren't that kind of guy (again, don't live on this site) and if not, best to you. I left scout for this blog to find that it is pretty much the same except this site has a "point" system that is, IMO, insane and childish. Second point being more of an overall bit of advice and opinion in that I think all of this crap on any site can be solved by simply letting true UM fans speak their mind and having mods to remove obvious trolls. If a UM fan says something you don't like, ignore it or politely state your opposing opinion. This site literally prides itself on who can "out snark" the other and random voting. Voting (not that it's even true voting here as much as snark and negging out of being a douche or bored) cannot determine fact from opinion. If a true UM fan truly thinks a healthy Denard should be anything but our QB (I don't), let them think that. Ignore it, agree with it or politely state why you disagree. It is SIMPLE. I'll leave saying that I agree with the resigned mod in that this blog was truly the cream of the crop years ago and has slowly but surely devolved into essentially what the paysites offer for free: A bunch of people walking on shells in hopes that the mighty untouchables do not dislike anything they say, for, if they do, the herd of pledge like chimps hoping to join their fraternity will attack with a tornado of snark and ferocity that often drive decent fans away. The job of a mod is not to be in that herd but protect the poster from them. That rarely happens. So, I hope you were a good mod that got sick of THAT rather than the other.
I AM THE GREAT AND POWERFUL BISB. ALL SHALL BOW TO ME, OR I SHALL DEPART AS YOU ARE CLEARLY NOT WORTHY OF MY AWESOMENESS.
"I always stood up for the right of ANY true Michigan fan (those clearly not trolls) to voice their opinion no matter how unliked."
There is no such "right".
Please don't be like the dickhead dad after a divorce that just f-ing leaves. Come back and visit us once in a while...
It's what makes this site so tremendous when it's at it's best. And it's also what makes it so messy and divisive when it's at it's worst. Whether or not this is a good era for the blog or a bad one largely depends on your own personal opinions of those who are making the most noise, and their own attitudes, for better or worse. The blog is evolving again...
I am sure I will see you around, Blue, here or elsewhere... But thanks for a stellar job in the face of confusion.
For what it's worth, I don't know why you ever even cared. As a Mod, what you say is just the way it is. Thread not up to snuff? Get rid of it. Bad post? Get rid of it. Bad poster? do what you gotta do. They complain? Why would you care?
This is the predictable result of the elimination of Neg-Banging and the establishment of the current teethless voting system. You want the clowns to go away, then bring back the A-Train to Bolivia.
I have been a reader for a few years, and I have posted a few times, but i always appreciated how quickly you shut down the idiots and posts that were destined for failure. Good luck with everything, and as a parent of two kids under three, definate good luck with that. Parenthood is the greatest adventure you can ask for.
I very rarely post here, but just wanted to say thanks for the effort and time. I'm not really involved in the community but I quite enjoy the game day events, which can only happen because of vigilant mods.
GL with the kid.
Was amazing, unmoderated, and hilarious. I miss chunks the hobo and his amazing dream followed by the rude awakening of Bill Martin urinating on him
now those threads were entertaining.
pure anarchy, and so much fun.
How much does an MGOBLOG mod make? Also, I am interested in becoming a mod here myself and I wondering if there is a page to apply in, assuming someone will take BiSB's place.
But when you die, on your deathbed, you receive... well, actually, still no money.
You've got that going for you...
Wait, I thought you guys at least were granted sips from the Brown Jug, which much like the Holy Grail, grants eternal life.
You're good people. Good sense of humor, good mod. Good gooder.
How is babby formed?
You were the best mod in the live blog. You kept all of us up to date on the play by play. Many of us have to work weekends and it is great following the action in the live blog. I thought you did the best updating us on all the plays of the game. Thanks!
what do mods even do? honestly im curious
Goodbye BiSB. See you around this spring and summer. Gets too crowded around here this time of year. Preemptive congrats on the addition to your family.
power to the people!
Is Brian making you turn in your key to the executive washroom?
Who posts once ever two months. You've said you'll still post, so that's good. Too many mods have quit and disappeared as a poster too (though not doing it as much when the kid comes is understandable).
Used to be the powers that be were the mods, with a couple of volunteer helpers. Now it seems like the mods do the board work and then inform them because what's going on at the site is so much bigger than it used to be. And it's their (kind hearted) goal to give everyone a say that's the problem. It's not a public place. It's a private site. Putting up with jackasses wastes everyone's time, annoys everyone, and wears out mods. People like that poster who come on twice in 9 weeks just to stir up trouble, Bolivia is a waste of time and just puts off the inevitable. Ban their ass. The site is big enough now that they're not going to bankrupt it over page hits. Not a long time, generally good contributor who has a bad post or night. But people who contribute nothing but one track venom.
Eventually Brian's going to have to weigh his sense of fair play for jackasses vs. mods and other good posters saying enough is enough. Which does he value more? Because in democracy we have to put up with morons saying what they want; but you don't have to put up with it in your own house.
The banhammer definitely needs to be unleashed a little more often.
If MGoBoard were a job and getting banned was the equivalent of getting fired, I feel like you could miss an entire week of work, show up drunk 4 or 5 times, and assault a fellow co-worker before finally getting the axe. The kicker is, that's the leash for people with little or no caché with the company, just new hirees off the street.