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Sorry to see you go I think that you have preformed admirably in your time as a mod. Congrats on the kud and enjoy the freedom.
Hopefully, you'll still post insta-classic zingers. And your avatar beats all.
Good call BiSB. I still read the blog, but have not posted as much since my first was born a year ago. The time commitment truly does change. I couldn't even imagine what it must be like when you actually have to care about what gets posted.
BTW - have always loved your avatar.
First kids are awesome, and life-altering (mine is 4 now). Hope you enjoy it half as much as we have!
Why wouldn't you hope he enjoys it just as much as you have?
You have something against subsequent kids?
Thanks for the efforts and congrats on the new family.
and thanks for all the fish!
In all seriousness, congrats to you and Mrs. BiSB on the baby! And thanks for scooping poop for so long - it's a crap job, we all know.
I feel like I'm the spice girls and BiSB is Ginger Spice, minus the drug usage. Goodbye my mod.
I have ALL THE SOLUTION: return to the simple up and down vote, bring back the negbangs. The kind that actually influence the meaningless number underneath a user's name.
When we had these things, believe it or not, it improved the community's collective moderation powers and was surprisingly effective. Now that 20% of any thread is sitting at the -1 threshold, and none of it has any impact on your High Score Bro, the moderators have to pick up the slack once shouldered by the community.
Sad to see you go. I agree that the board has turned a little in the past couple of weeks, but I still think the nadir was during the latter part of the RR era when people just lost their minds every day.
This place can have civil discussions, and most people do. The couple of nimrods who learned about this site from someone at work and thought their MLive personalities would play well here are idiots, and I'll throw my entire tough-guy Internet reputation behind that. We have enough sports radio stations for people to be goobers at, but MGoBlog is supposed to be a cut above.
Again, sad to see BiSB leave as a mod. Hopefully you'll keep posting.
BTW: Congrats on the soon-to-be new Wolverine.
Congratulations to you and your family!
Thank you for all you have done for this place. I hope you don't disappear from here forever. The board is better when you're around.
Crap, you might be my favorite poster here.
Your frustration is understandable, though I think this is what happens when a blog breaks through as clearly the go-to place for Michigan sports. You no longer just get people with a certain sense of humor, style, brain, etc. -- you get a much larger and more representative portion of the internet-active Michigan fan base. As much as everyone dumps on MLive, I hope that site thrives, if only to provide two very different Michigan sites for attracting different types of Michigan fans.
Good luck with the family, and I hope that you continue to post in your new role as a non-mod normie.
You will participate in nothing for the rest of your life that will have as much fundamental human importance.
As for the issues on the site, I think it's far, far, far from being MLive. However, it is closer to that hellhole than it used to be, and I think the decline stems from two factors:
1). MGoBlog is an amazing internet success, and therefore falls prey to the fact that the internet is flypaper for morons. You can't avoid it entirely if you have message boards.
2). The change several months ago to a system wherein idiot comments are not truly dealt with via community policing. On occasion it could be cruel, but in general the idiots received quick punishment via negbanging. One problem with MGoBlog that has never been dealt with is gratuitious negging, wherein some routinely neg other commenters, regardless of what the nature of the comment is. IMHO There should be an individual cost to negging, and should include the temporary loss of posting privileges if it's abused beyond a certain stage. Points themselves should not be important except as a measure of the ability to post and comment.
I agree that a system whereby stupid posts (not just comments) could be democratically deleted would be great. It would keep embarassing or brainless stuff off the site without the need for constant policing by mods. Perhaps if a post gets -50 net points it's automatically deleted, and if a poster gets a sufficient number of net downvotes that poster gets banned.
The only problem with this is that the idiots could still post late at night when there aren't enough users around, but perhaps that wouldn't be a big deal.
It's probably worth emphasizing that although we all love freedom of speech, an individual website that allows complete freedom to its denizens stops being a place for reasonable people to hang out as soon as it gains a modicum of popularity. The internet breeds assholes. It's not "censorship" to keep such trash from overrunning one's community. Mods are the janitors of the internet. There are plenty of internet sites that don't have janitors, so it's not like there's nowhere to throw your shit just because you can't do it here.
I'd say their role needs to be closer to that of law enforcement.
We will always have the Monkey Rodeo memories at least.
Can I have a million points too!? Hate to see ya go BiSB, you've been one of my favorite mods BC you're so involved in all the discussions. Hope you reconsider after so much deserved down time. And congrats in advance!!!
First TomVH, now BiSB. I haz a sad.
Sooo... Can I have your Mgopoints?
/s Congrats and good luck!
You've been one of the best for a long time.
Until we get real voting back, the mods will have a near-impossible job.
Finally, I don't need to act sensible anymore. Whew, that's a load off
I dont get how whining and being critical about the coaches gets you banned, but calling people asshats is somehow okay? If someone is offbase on their opinion, the board will let them know.
We let Blue Blue Blue know his opinion was offbase and that didn't stop him from making another awful thread 6 hours later to discuss the same points as the first one.
are just begging to be called asshats.
Thank you BiSB for your contribution to this blog. I have a greater appreciation for the time the mgoblog employees/contributors and the mods spend here now. I was inspired at one point to provide a weekly contribution to this blog, but have found time to be too short as of late. High quality, well informed, and humorous posters make this blog one of the best out there. You are one of those that make this a better place.
I wish you the best with your new baby and leave you with this final thought -
I find this strangely creepy.
Last night we went on a romantic walk together. Only problem is that you didn't know I was there.
Babies are SRS BSNS so that more than justifies a change in duties.
I appreciare the explanation and am sorry you reached the breaking point. The problem is that the people who are going to care about this thread are not the ones who are causing the problems. The jerks are not going to read it, or they are going to interpret it as a huffy flounce, or they are simply going to be pleased that there is one less jackbooted thug mod around here.
But hey, I am not one of them.
I'm confused, what does a mod normally do beside act tough and complain?
Thank you for all of your work around here. I tended to agree with you about 99.4% of the time. Hope to see you on the board still from time to time. You are appreciated...by me at least.
I know I might have been an a hole in the past, but I want to thank you for your service towards making this a great blog. don't let the morons ruin it for you. good luck with your future kid.
Congrats and good luck on the little one. Honestly, I don't think the board is getting worse, I think it just goes through phases. I remember a couple years ago, I told a friend not to waste his time going on MGoBlog, because it had turned into a bunch of whining bitches. Eventually, I came back, the board seemed better and all was good. If you can't mod, so be it. But trust me, you will spend some late nights checking MGoBlog once the little one gets here. The wife and I are expecting one this month (#2) so I look forward to the late night reading.
Get a goddam pardon? I keed I keed. So long BiSB!
Maybe you're just following guidelines or some sort of protocol for this site, but I do think the Moderators go too far.
I think Brady Hoke has done a lot of great things for this program. I have been pleasantly surprised with him...
But should it make him immuned from criticism? Absolutely not.
I know that everybody makes mistakes, there is no perfect coach. I just disagree with censorship of unpopular opinion.
Definite groupthink issues on this board
This is where I'm at.
between voicing an unpopular opinion and being a troll. The problem is that most trolls don't know the difference.
People are free to post unpopular stuff. Section 1, who I disagree with almost every time he posts, and who is about as contrarian as anyone, remains free to post despite being negged at every turn. What people CAN'T do is post threads designed to start fights. For example, starting a thread to bitch about a decision from the offseason that came to fruition 15 days ago, and throwing in a RichRod reference for good measure, is a recipe for disaster.
I do find it hilarious that after a full year of "WHY DOES BRIAN HATE HOKE SO MUCH HE'S BEING UNREASONABLE," we've moved swiftly into "WHY DOES BRIAN LOVE HOKE SO MUCH HE'S BEING UNREASONABLE"
But Brian did that! Don't forget. The last 2 coaching searches had brian view Hoke as truly a "worst case scenario OMG the world has ended" hire. He gets hired and he is openly not happy. Admittedly, he (IIRC) likes the press conference. It took winning the Sugar Bowl (and what came before in hires, recruiting, wins, etc) to get where Brian and most are now. Where most are now is "Hoke is the Pope. He makes no mistakes." and that is insane. I LOVE Hoke and even in losses like Nebraska do not have much to question. I didn't debate if Gardner should have played, etc. I trust that the staff knows more than me about young men, players, 99.99% of us never know, meet or see in our lives. Yet, to see someone get "negged" (voting is the dumbest thing ever, I'll keep repeating until banned or it is removed) or attacked for questioning the staff is wrong. Disagree? Fine. Great. Politely state your case in disagreement or ignore it and it will die on its own. Point being that the slow decline (IMO and many others who at least lurked since this site opened) of this blog/site is due to the culture the above mentioned behavior has created here. It's become a shitty frat house with untouchable members and pledges who feel the need to post giant pre-apologies before their actual post and point in hopes they don't get attacked by the frat herd. It's insane to me.
Politely state your case in disagreement or ignore it and it will die on its own.
...and I laughed and laughed...
As a Moderator on one of the largest GM Camaro sites and as a former Admin/Mod on the largest Turbo Buick site I can relate to what you are feeling and are going through.
Sometimes things will drive you mad and other times you will do the same to others. Either way, life goes on and at some point you'll realize that none of this means much in the grand scheme of things.
Go Blue :)
Taking your talents to South Beach?
Seriously though congrats Bisb on the baby. Good luck and hope to see you around.
If people would follow the Golden Rule and treat others how they would like to be treated then lots of issues would be solved.
Goodbye BISB. You'll be missed.
Make sure you teach the MGoBaby about the good things in life. The Victors, the M Club Banner, Michigan Stadium, Brady Hoke, Bo Schembechler, ham sandwiches. Stuff like that.
I was drawn to this site because the level of discourse, general intelligence, and overall fairness far exceeded any other college board I've visited. And there's some excellent non-sports content posted as well.
I try to post and give a "different perspective" when possible and it seems like as long as I can back up what I say, with the exception of a few taboo topics, my opinion is generally respected. I've even had Michigan fans defend my opinion, you never see that on other boards.
I've been registered for 2 1/2 years, maybe things were better before then, but Michigan football went through a pretty tough transition (I can relate, some of the posts I've read here were identical to Nebraska's during our problems), I think that explains much of the bad behavior when it occurs.
Sure, there are bad days when too many people overreact and say crazy stuff, naturally people will vent at certain times, but you guys have a great board, the smart and thoughtful posts far outweigh the stupid ones. Most of the time you get it right.
Long time lurker, first time poster (I forgot the password for my [long since used] email, so I had to make a new one).
Sorry to hear that the daily wear and tear of being a mod has brought you down, but I just wanted to let you know that many people here really appreciated your work here.
On behalf of lurkers everywhere, we respected and appreciated the unique viewpoints you provided for this site. Hopefully you can continue to contribute to this site despite resigning from your post. If you can't find it in yourself to continue to be an active member of the MGoBlog Community, live long and prosper!
And of course, Hail to the Victors!
One of the best Seuss stories out there.
Plain old Mack
BiSB, you're a delight. It's a shame you won't be on as much anymore.