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November 11th, 2012 at 5:10 PM | I'll probably be around (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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But somewhat less frequently, given the family responsibilities and the lack of mod responsibilities.

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:08 PM | it seems like an uphill (Score:3 Normal)
orobs
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it seems like an uphill battle when 100 points is the cutoff for posting.

 

Tell me you at least banned that asshat on the way out

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:08 PM | I am Legend (Score:-1 Offtopic)
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I am Legend

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:09 PM | Sorry to see you go. (Score:1)
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Sorry to see you go I think that you have preformed admirably in your time as a mod.  Congrats on the kud and enjoy the freedom.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:09 PM | I do not second this motion. (Score:2)
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Hopefully, you'll still post insta-classic zingers. And your avatar beats all.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:11 PM | Seppuku BISB. (Score:3 Normal)
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Seppuku BISB.

Who is Jon Falk?
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November 11th, 2012 at 5:22 PM | Good call BiSB. I still read (Score:1)
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Good call BiSB. I still read the blog, but have not posted as much since my first was born a year ago. The time commitment truly does change. I couldn't even imagine what it must be like when you actually have to care about what gets posted.

BTW - have always loved your avatar.

"Anyone who isn't confused, really doesn't understand the situation." - Edward R. Murrow

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:13 PM | Congrats and thanks for all the fish (Score:1)
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First kids are awesome, and life-altering (mine is 4 now). Hope you enjoy it half as much as we have!

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:17 PM | Why wouldn't you hope he (Score:2 Funny)
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Why wouldn't you hope he enjoys it just as much as you have?

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:18 PM | You have something against (Score:2)
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You have something against subsequent kids?

"It would be a travesty, it would be ridiculous to all of a sudden come back and get the feeling back, get the health back, feel good again and then all of a sudden go throw some other colors on my shirt and go coach."

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:17 PM | Thanks for the efforts and (Score:2)
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Thanks for the efforts and congrats on the new family.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:18 PM | So long (Score:3 Normal)
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and thanks for all the fish!

In all seriousness, congrats to you and Mrs. BiSB on the baby! And thanks for scooping poop for so long - it's a crap job, we all know.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:18 PM | I feel like I'm the spice (Score:2)
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I feel like I'm the spice girls and BiSB is Ginger Spice, minus the drug usage. Goodbye my mod.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:22 PM | I have ALL THE SOLUTION: (Score:5 Normal)
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I have ALL THE SOLUTION: return to the simple up and down vote, bring back the negbangs. The kind that actually influence the meaningless number underneath a user's name.

When we had these things, believe it or not, it improved the community's collective moderation powers and was surprisingly effective. Now that 20% of any thread is sitting at the -1 threshold, and none of it has any impact on your High Score Bro, the moderators have to pick up the slack once shouldered by the community.

Colors That Float

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:21 PM | Sad to see you go.  I agree (Score:3 Normal)
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Sad to see you go.  I agree that the board has turned a little in the past couple of weeks, but I still think the nadir was during the latter part of the RR era when people just lost their minds every day.

This place can have civil discussions, and most people do.  The couple of nimrods who learned about this site from someone at work and thought their MLive personalities would play well here are idiots, and I'll throw my entire tough-guy Internet reputation behind that.  We have enough sports radio stations for people to be goobers at, but MGoBlog is supposed to be a cut above.

Again, sad to see BiSB leave as a mod.  Hopefully you'll keep posting.

 

BTW:  Congrats on the soon-to-be new Wolverine.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:22 PM | Congratulations to you and (Score:1)
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Congratulations to you and your family!

Thank you for all you have done for this place.  I hope you don't disappear from here forever.  The board is better when you're around.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:26 PM | Crap, you might be my (Score:5 Normal)
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Crap, you might be my favorite poster here.

Your frustration is understandable, though I think this is what happens when a blog breaks through as clearly the go-to place for Michigan sports.  You no longer just get people with a certain sense of humor, style, brain, etc. -- you get a much larger and more representative portion of the internet-active Michigan fan base.  As much as everyone dumps on MLive, I hope that site thrives, if only to provide two very different Michigan sites for attracting different types of Michigan fans.

Good luck with the family, and I hope that you continue to post in your new role as a non-mod normie.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:25 PM | VIVA LA BEAVIS (Score:-1 Trolling)
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VIVA LA BEAVIS

"to make a complete evaluation off video w/o seeing guys in-person - I don't believe that at all." - Josh Helmholdt

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:29 PM | First, congrats on the impending arrival (Score:5 Normal)
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You will participate in nothing for the rest of your life that will have as much fundamental human importance.

As for the issues on the site, I think it's far, far, far from being MLive. However, it is closer to that hellhole than it used to be, and I think the decline stems from two factors:

1). MGoBlog is an amazing internet success, and therefore falls prey to the fact that the internet is flypaper for morons. You can't avoid it entirely if you have message boards.

2). The change several months ago to a system wherein idiot comments are not truly dealt with via community policing. On occasion it could be cruel, but in general the idiots received quick punishment via negbanging. One problem with MGoBlog that has never been dealt with is gratuitious negging, wherein some routinely neg other commenters, regardless of what the nature of the comment is. IMHO There should be an individual cost to negging, and should include the temporary loss of posting privileges if it's abused beyond a certain stage. Points themselves should not be important except as a measure of the ability to post and comment.


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November 11th, 2012 at 5:34 PM | I agree that a system whereby (Score:2)
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I agree that a system whereby stupid posts (not just comments) could be democratically deleted would be great. It would keep embarassing or brainless stuff off the site without the need for constant policing by mods. Perhaps if a post gets -50 net points it's automatically deleted, and if a poster gets a sufficient number of net downvotes that poster gets banned.

The only problem with this is that the idiots could still post late at night when there aren't enough users around, but perhaps that wouldn't be a big deal.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:29 PM | It's probably worth (Score:2)
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It's probably worth emphasizing that although we all love freedom of speech, an individual website that allows complete freedom to its denizens stops being a place for reasonable people to hang out as soon as it gains a modicum of popularity. The internet breeds assholes. It's not "censorship" to keep such trash from overrunning one's community. Mods are the janitors of the internet. There are plenty of internet sites that don't have janitors, so it's not like there's nowhere to throw your shit just because you can't do it here.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:32 PM | Mods are the janitors of the internet. (Score:2)
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I'd say their role needs to be closer to that of law enforcement.


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November 11th, 2012 at 5:29 PM | Farewell (Score:2)
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We will always have the Monkey Rodeo memories at least.

I don't like Wisconsin.. I just like badgers.  Regardless of choices, vote for Monkey Rodeo.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:30 PM | Can I have a million points (Score:3 Normal)
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Can I have a million points too!? Hate to see ya go BiSB, you've been one of my favorite mods BC you're so involved in all the discussions. Hope you reconsider after so much deserved down time. And congrats in advance!!!

Fuck Urban Meyer!

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:30 PM | First TomVH, now BiSB. I haz (Score:1)
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First TomVH, now BiSB. I haz a sad.

How many times have you been on the freeway and had someone fly by you at 100 mph then end up 2 cars ahead of you at the off ramp? What's the point? -Mark Harmon

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:30 PM | Sooo... Can I have your (Score:2)
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Sooo... Can I have your Mgopoints?

 

/s   Congrats and good luck!

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:34 PM | Godspeed, BiSB. You've been (Score:4 Normal)
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Godspeed, BiSB.

You've been one of the best for a long time.



Until we get real voting back, the mods will have a near-impossible job.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:35 PM | no more mod? (Score:3 Normal)
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Finally, I don't need to act sensible anymore. Whew, that's a load off

Follow me on Twitter @gfraley05

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:36 PM | I dont get how whining and (Score:4 Normal)
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I dont get how whining and being critical about the coaches gets you banned, but calling people asshats is somehow okay? If someone is offbase on their opinion, the board will let them know.

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:56 PM | We let Blue Blue Blue know (Score:2 Normal)
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We let Blue Blue Blue know his opinion was offbase and that didn't stop him from making another awful thread 6 hours later to discuss the same points as the first one.

Blank.....Blank......You're not looking at the big picture here.

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:57 PM | Some people, by their words and demeanor (Score:2 Normal)
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are just begging to be called asshats.

May you have a strong foundation
When the winds of changes shift

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:43 PM | (No subject) (Score:1 Normal)
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When the ADept sells special jerseys and gear, you'll see my picture next to the targeted customer crowd. A sheep.....but a Blue one.....

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:50 PM | I really don't know... (Score:5 Normal)
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...how you were able to shoulder the load as long as you have. Thanks for your tremendous efforts over the years.

LSA '89 - MBB Natl Champions, Big 10/Rose Bowl Champions | @MGoShoe

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November 11th, 2012 at 5:58 PM | Thank you BiSB for your (Score:3 Normal)
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Thank you BiSB for your contribution to this blog. I have a greater appreciation for the time the mgoblog employees/contributors and the mods spend here now.  I was inspired at one point to provide a weekly contribution to this blog, but have found time to be too short as of late.  High quality, well informed, and humorous posters make this blog one of the best out there.  You are one of those that make this a better place.

I wish you the best with your new baby and leave you with this final thought -

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November 11th, 2012 at 6:26 PM | I find this strangely creepy. (Score:4 Normal)
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I find this strangely creepy.

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November 11th, 2012 at 10:47 PM | Last night we went on a (Score:5 Funny)
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Last night we went on a romantic walk together.  Only problem is that you didn't know I was there.

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November 11th, 2012 at 6:00 PM | Babies are SRS BSNS so that (Score:4 Normal)
Feat of Clay
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Babies are SRS BSNS so that more than justifies a change in duties.  

I appreciare the explanation and am sorry you reached the breaking point.  The problem  is that the people who are going to care about this thread are not the ones who are causing the problems.  The jerks are not going to read it, or they are going to interpret it as a huffy flounce, or they are simply going to be pleased that there is one less jackbooted thug mod around here. 

But hey, I am not one of them.

 

Candace: No... That why they make smart word box for tell monkey hard brain-hurty things.
Phineas: Removing prepositions makes it more condescending.
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November 11th, 2012 at 6:04 PM | I'm confused... (Score:5 Normal)
Hardware Sushi
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I'm confused, what does a mod normally do beside act tough and complain?

Intensity is a lot of guys that run fast.

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November 11th, 2012 at 6:08 PM | BiSB (Score:2)
archangel2k12
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Thank you for all of your work around here.  I tended to agree with you about 99.4% of the time.  Hope to see you on the board still from time to time.  You are appreciated...by me at least.

Congrats also!

Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.

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November 11th, 2012 at 6:19 PM | I know I might have been an a (Score:3 Normal)
Professor X
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I know I might have been an a hole in the past, but I want to thank you for your service towards making this a great blog. don't let the morons ruin it for you. good luck with your future kid.

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November 11th, 2012 at 6:19 PM | Congrats and good luck on the (Score:5 Normal)
MGoblu8
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Congrats and good luck on the little one. Honestly, I don't think the board is getting worse, I think it just goes through phases. I remember a couple years ago, I told a friend not to waste his time going on MGoBlog, because it had turned into a bunch of whining bitches. Eventually, I came back, the board seemed better and all was good. If you can't mod, so be it. But trust me, you will spend some late nights checking MGoBlog once the little one gets here. The wife and I are expecting one this month (#2) so I look forward to the late night reading.

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November 11th, 2012 at 6:27 PM | Can I (Score:5 Normal)
FuManBlue
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Get a goddam pardon? I keed I keed. So long BiSB!

I'm kind of a big deal in Bolivia.

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November 11th, 2012 at 6:28 PM | Overzealous Mods IMO (Score:5 Normal)
Glen Masons Hot Wife
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Maybe you're just following guidelines or some sort of protocol for this site, but I do think the Moderators go too far.

I think Brady Hoke has done a lot of great things for this program.  I have been pleasantly surprised with him...

But should it make him immuned from criticism?  Absolutely not.

I know that everybody makes mistakes, there is no perfect coach.  I just disagree with censorship of unpopular opinion.

Definite groupthink issues on this board

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November 11th, 2012 at 7:04 PM | This is where I'm at. (Score:3 Normal)
America
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This is where I'm at.

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November 11th, 2012 at 8:03 PM | There's a difference (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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between voicing an unpopular opinion and being a troll. The problem is that most trolls don't know the difference.

People are free to post unpopular stuff. Section 1, who I disagree with almost every time he posts, and who is about as contrarian as anyone, remains free to post despite being negged at every turn. What people CAN'T do is post threads designed to start fights. For example, starting a thread to bitch about a decision from the offseason that came to fruition 15 days ago, and throwing in a RichRod reference for good measure, is a recipe for disaster.  

I do find it hilarious that after a full year of "WHY DOES BRIAN HATE HOKE SO MUCH HE'S BEING UNREASONABLE," we've moved swiftly into "WHY DOES BRIAN LOVE HOKE SO MUCH HE'S BEING UNREASONABLE"

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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November 11th, 2012 at 9:46 PM | I like you and agree with (Score:3 Normal)
Butterfield
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I like you and agree with your assessment of the difference between trolling and being critical. That said, you lost me when you implied that Section1 doesn't intend to start a fight with every single post he makes. He is the leader of the troll navy.

The swag is back. 

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November 12th, 2012 at 10:52 AM | I like you and agree with (Score:2 Normal)
Butterfield
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Double post woo hoo!

The swag is back. 

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November 11th, 2012 at 9:57 PM | But Brian did that! Don't (Score:-1 Overrated)
Danwillhor
Joined: 12/02/2008
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But Brian did that! Don't forget. The last 2 coaching searches had brian view Hoke as truly a "worst case scenario OMG the world has ended" hire. He gets hired and he is openly not happy. Admittedly, he (IIRC) likes the press conference. It took winning the Sugar Bowl (and what came before in hires, recruiting, wins, etc) to get where Brian and most are now. Where most are now is "Hoke is the Pope. He makes no mistakes." and that is insane. I LOVE Hoke and even in losses like Nebraska do not have much to question. I didn't debate if Gardner should have played, etc. I trust that the staff knows more than me about young men, players, 99.99% of us never know, meet or see in our lives. Yet, to see someone get "negged" (voting is the dumbest thing ever, I'll keep repeating until banned or it is removed) or attacked for questioning the staff is wrong. Disagree? Fine. Great. Politely state your case in disagreement or ignore it and it will die on its own. Point being that the slow decline (IMO and many others who at least lurked since this site opened) of this blog/site is due to the culture the above mentioned behavior has created here. It's become a shitty frat house with untouchable members and pledges who feel the need to post giant pre-apologies before their actual post and point in hopes they don't get attacked by the frat herd. It's insane to me.

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November 11th, 2012 at 11:01 PM | Oh? (Score:5 Normal)
BiSB
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Politely state your case in disagreement or ignore it and it will die on its own.

...and I laughed and laughed...

They no longer call me Bisbiño

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November 11th, 2012 at 6:33 PM | As a Moderator on one of the (Score:3 Normal)
gotohail
Joined: 02/26/2012
MGoPoints: 327

As a Moderator on one of the largest GM Camaro sites and as a former Admin/Mod on the largest Turbo Buick site I can relate to what you are feeling and are going through.



Sometimes things will drive you mad and other times you will do the same to others. Either way, life goes on and at some point you'll realize that none of this means much in the grand scheme of things.



Go Blue :)

The Michigan difference...

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