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Nothing professional sports (except the Lions thread on Sunday). Nothing tangential to an existing topic. Nothing "I think this and need to share." C'Mon people. Seriously
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formerlyanonymous

September 19th, 2010 at 9:46 AM ^

Game Threads and VERY IMPORTANT news only. This should mean major trades, injuries to starters, or "yay we made the playoffs." What is very important after those three things is up to moderators themselves, but we're hoping most of it can be stuffed into game threads.

We do ask that you don't over-pollute with game threads, which is more of a Tigers thing than a Red Wings (as Tigers play every day during their season), but we're hoping to avoid daily posts on the pro teams.

You obviously post a lot of Red Wings, so please work with us as we more clearly define what important is. If we delete something you find important, the moderators (cough, especially Tim, cough) might not find it as important. Also, in game threads, leave it open to other NHL games as well (much like how the college football open threads work). Detroit can be the focus, but others, even Chicago or Pittsburgh fans can make comments on their teams, too. Okay, maybe not Pittsburgh fans.

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maizenbluedevil

September 19th, 2010 at 1:48 AM ^

Isn't that how discussions work....at least those that are non-repetitive....by tangent??

I understand the need for moderation.  And overall this site is well run.  And, I'm sure there are things that go on behind the scenes that go on, relative to policing the boards, that we're not aware of.

But.  I'm disappointed by what seems like an abundance of locks today.

The thread about the hot reporter is related to a game broadcast....not like that person just brought up a random reporter.

The guy who posted his thoughts on the game and made the disclaimer that he was venting...  at least he was straightforward about it.

The thread about breakfast in East Lansing....once again was in reference to a game broadcast.  Seems fine to me.  Plus it was amusing.  Furthermore, it has to do with an establishment in the state of Michigan.  I've never heard of that restaurant before, and so was grateful for the info.  I'll check that place out next time I'm in Lansing.

All three of those threads seem legit to me.  Especially the third one.  Just my $0.02 though.

EDIT:  To use an analogy on why I think what I said above....

Saying the threads I mention above aren't allowed is like saying tailgating shouldn't be allowed at football games in real life.  After all, what do beer and brats have to do with football?  They're totally extraneous, off-topic if you will, have nothing to do with what goes on on the field.

College football doesn't occur in a vacuum.  There's a whole network of other things that interact with it.  That's why it has more personality than the NFL.  Are those other things technically about football, in a strict sense?  No.  But, even though they don't happen on the field, they're a part of the game.  To ignore them and say they can't be talked about on the board is restricting conversation about some of the things that give college football its personality.  Since this site is, after all, about college football (among other college sports) it doesn't make much sense that these other things shouldn't be allowed to be discussed.

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M-Wolverine

September 19th, 2010 at 2:02 AM ^

But did it say in Brian's in-season rules thread that "Nothing tangential to an existing topic."? Because if it's on topic, it's on topic, no?  And tangential by definition means, related, but different, no?  So it's not a duplicate. How about we let a few more threads about dining go through, and maybe consolidate all the "OUR DEFENSE SUCKS, WE'LL NEVER WIN AGAIN" or the "QUITE BEING CRYBABIES WE'RE GOING WIN ALL OUR GAMES BECAUSE WE BEAT U-MASS BY 4" threads, instead of having 3 pages of them, huh?

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Tacopants

September 19th, 2010 at 3:35 AM ^

I'm not opposed to tangential topics, but this level is absolutely insane.  It's true, I dont care about some random guy's cool bro story.  In the offseason, it's usually fine because the volume is low enough that there are only 20ish new threads in the Mgoboard a day.  During the season, it's just endless noise.  Maybe that drives you to read every single thread on the site.  For me, it does the exact opposite.  Look at the 75+ new threads today.  How many of them would you say are good threads that contribute to discussion?

I view Mgoblog as sort of the ultimate aggregator of Michigan content.  I come here mainly for links to interesting stories on Michigan, as well as the analysis of a select few people.  In that Mgoblog is great.  It's just unfortunate when that's pushed behind pages of "Well gee, this is how I feel, and that's just your opinion, man."

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Geaux_Blue

September 19th, 2010 at 12:12 PM ^

The negative opinion post was locked bc dude was getting blasted and there was little discourse as opposed to ripping and neg bombing. The post was left up bc he's allowed to have his opinion- peoples immature reactions warranted it. Talking about how hot a reporter is does not pass the smell test as I understand it. It's sexist also.

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MaizenBlueBP

September 19th, 2010 at 1:20 AM ^

This is the only blog in the country where you can't speak your mind.  I'll just read from now on because commenting and starting any threads can get you bitched at by the 20,000 club. 

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MGoPacquiao

September 19th, 2010 at 2:07 AM ^

And it's the best college football blog in the country.  Coincidence?  I think Brian's been pretty clear about trying to maintain the intelligence level of the board.  People obviously should be posting with criticisms of todays game, but after a win it's frustrating and annoying to read things like 500 word rants about how some dumbass is convinced that RichRod will fail.

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Mitch Cumstein

September 19th, 2010 at 9:40 AM ^

it's frustrating and annoying to read things like 500 word rants about how some dumbass is convinced that RichRod will fail.
Just b/c you don't agree with it doesn't mean it shouldn't be posted. The guy was giving his opinion after he saw a defense get shredded by an FCS team. He had some legit points. Just b/c it flew in the face of the MGOcult "support RichRod or get negged" theme, doesn't mean its off topic or a repeat. If a guy can't post an honest opinion and have it be seriously discussed, what good is this blog? I agree, maybe he should have waited until the fallout from the game subsided, but I didn't think the post was inappropriate. Maybe the mods want to remove all dissenting opinions about RR. Thats fine I guess, b/c its Brian's blog and he can do what he wants, but that should be made clear in the FAQ and site rules.

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duffman is thr…

September 19th, 2010 at 8:22 PM ^

people say shit online all the time they would never say straight to someones face. I don't think I really want to hear the opinions of these people. Mods, thank you in advance for deleting stupid shit before I waste my time. 

Like, everyone has an opinion man, it doesn't mean it's worth saying out loud, and especially not posted on a blog.

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ND Sux

September 19th, 2010 at 9:26 AM ^

We obsess over M football all year long, both enjoying and enduring the good/bad stuff, and it's stressful at times (see Michigan secondary stories for the past four months).  Need a few "slightly OT, yet still college FB related" stories.  Oh, and stories about NCAAFB related hotties are always welcome, IMO. 

For example, ever really checked out the Oregon chearleaders?  Yummy!

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M-Wolverine

September 19th, 2010 at 1:54 AM ^

From the Moderator Action info thread- (FA)
Brian has decreed to allow Detroit sports teams only. That or college sports that may at least be tangentially attached to Michigan/Ann Arbor.
And that was posted Friday morning. Maybe the mods should all get on the same page, because if they don't understand what they're supposed to be doing, how can we? Though, I'm thinking maybe the mods time might be better off getting rid of trolls before they hit -400, like last night, rather than worrying about threads....but MGoBlog's priorities seem to be different. Say as much stupid crap as you want, as long as you don't create a thread for it. (Unless a mod remembers your rantings fondly, and lets the thread go).

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maizenbluedevil

September 19th, 2010 at 2:04 AM ^

I think the suggestion about more actively looking out for people with like -400 points and banning is a good one.  

I also think people who are mods should be labelled as such, just so we can know who they are.  (Like, "Mod" in parentheses after their name)

And also that locked topics should state who it was locked by and why.

This is standard MO on most forums.  As things stand now the locking of threads is phantom and seems somewhat arbitrary at times.  It's something that just doesn't look good.  

Once again, I'm giving people the benefit of the doubt and assuming the best intentions, because overall this site is well-run, but those are a couple suggestions.  

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M-Wolverine

September 19th, 2010 at 2:07 AM ^

http://mgoblog.com/mgoboard/moderator-action-sticky

Though the mod who wrote this thread doesn't seem to have contributed to it very recently...might be a protocol breakdown there, too. (Are we not following Brian's rules?) While others seem to post there a lot.

But it's not comprehensive. I didn't even realize "PAulVB" was a mod until today. I've never seen him in the "list" given of FA, Geaux, Tim, etc.

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formerlyanonymous

September 19th, 2010 at 9:50 AM ^

Paul came over in the VarsityBlue merger as well. He doesn't moderate often. He just happened to do the CiL for us yesterday, and that lead to him being on the board more than usual. He is definitely on page with the rest of us.

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M-Wolverine

September 19th, 2010 at 10:44 AM ^

I looked at his history, and he had a lot of cred. I'm just saying, when people have asked in the past "who are the mods, anyway" and you or others have said "well, ......" I've never seen him listed. And can't remember him doing any moderating.

And I'm sure he's on page with you...but are you all on the same page? The thread author thinks only Lions are ontopic...and you think all Detroit sports (in moderation) are.  Seems like there's multiple pages.

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Geaux_Blue

September 19th, 2010 at 12:02 PM ^

And unlike what a lot of people are saying I actually confirmed a couple weeks ago that we COULD have pro discussion bc I welcome and enjoy it. I brought up Lions in the same way FA did above - the other sports occur so often compared to NFL Sunday. The main point of this thread is that there were 5 different threads on pro sports after a week of bands, sexy reporter (which is sexist and the RCMB stuff Brian has said he wants to avoid). People were being destroyed for OT posts in the comments for not knowing the shift. Also half the things I got ripped on for in this thread I didn't do

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