Wouldn't PGB be eligible for moderator-emeritus status?
frank beamer #1
Wouldn't PGB be eligible for moderator-emeritus status?
With respect to Moderator Emeritus status: Good Idea for all MGoBlog Moderators who, for various reasons, may be forced to abdicate; but shouldn’t they have to wait until white smoke is seen billowing out of the Crisler Center after the College of MGoBloggers meets to officially designate a new Moderator?
You will be missed as a mod, but I'm glad to see you're still sticking around to post like BiSB did.
and thanks for all the fish! You were a great mod IMO, but I understand why you're moving on. I added you on Twitter, feel free to do the same back for me if you so desire.
America negged your post. It must suck to be you, pgb.
On the other hand, it was fun while it lasted.
Because he is (was?) my favorite Mod and I am being selfish.
PGB was definitely a better mod than BiSB, that's for damn sure! Not sure about being better than JGB. And the verdict is still out on LSA . . .
You must be the first to be asked (and answered) "Why does American hate you?"
Decreased your appreciation for the board, I think it's an actual degradation in the quality of the community. Many posters are great, certainly, but the board has changed for the worse, sometime in the past 6 months. Like you, I can't seem to put my finger on it, yet am still able to sense its presence. I've said this before but I'm holding out hope for summer, when the better posters stay active and the worse ones go and hibernate
has to do with the perceived (and very real) deficiencies that the BIG has in football right now. While the Board and the Blog is still very entertaining, I think there is a feeling that it lacks any real relevance due to the overriding irrelevance of Big Ten football. I think that basketball is actually resulting is some good discussions about a team that is genuinely relevant right now and not just locally relevant to die hards.
People have been saying, "the Board is worse than it used to be, what's with all these people...." since I started following this blog over 3 years ago, and probably since day one (or day two, ha ha). I guess I disagree with this outlook.
That was about the time it started going downhill. You do the math...
*I think it's inevitable with the growth of the site, the "community" feel is gradually diluted until it's gone entirely.
and/or the OSU game lasted one half, I think the perception of the site would be vastly different. Even if there has been an influx of poor quality posters (I don't think there have been, on the whole, but a lot of people do) it's a lot easier to hear "w0000 denerd-dog 4 heisman best playa in MEECHINGAN history!!!" without getting turned off from the discussion than to hear some of the negative stuff posted after the biggest games last season, along with a bad attitude because those games were genuinely dong punches.
For a Michigan football enthusiast. Now it's more like a "craigs cruisers"
Mostly nice people, but now and then you run into some douche dressed in a zebra shirt telling you to slow down on that go kart
Based on my experience, you're both right. The general tone of the board probably hasn't changed much relative to the success of various Michigan teams; obviously Michigan fans were less happy this football season than last year, but both were happier than 2010. The majority of the posters around here remain quality folks.
The difference I noticed is an increase in the number and dickishness of the small minority of posters who deny us all the good things. As a normal poster, you can ignore flamebaiting trolls and folks who want to turn everything that happens on the board into some soap opera drama BS. As a mod, not only can you not ignore it, but you actively have to search for it. And deal with it. And deal with the inevitable "Y U CENSOR ME???" drama that follows. In a world where 95% of people are enjoyable, mods spend their time with the 5% who suck at life.
I think that the board has taken a "harder edge" since the Nebraska loss and the realization that the football season was probably "fuct," but I also think that being a mod has to suck sometimes. It's like being a cop; too many of your interactions are with people who are doing something stupid or had something stupid done to them and are pissed off.
Part of me would love to see the old posbang/negbang system back, but I have seen a lot of negged comments that have made me wonder WTF the person did to get negged. It seems that a lot of people are negging civilized posts that happen to disagree with them on issues that aren't even all that important.
Even with its flaws and its outliers, though, this board is still far superior to any sports board I have seen. Overall, the mods have done a great job of keeping "lowest common denominator" posts and subjects off of the board.
Thanks to the artist formerly known as profitgoblue for all of the work he put in to keep mgoblog at the top.
This is the training video Brian sends to all of the new mods:
you did a fine job.
Congrats on the family and for having your priorities straight.
We will miss you. They NEED you.
Oh, and happy trails, Profit. You were one of my favorite people to neg during the CC days :)
or the Mgoblog equivalent.
//thinks of fat jokes
You're one of my favorites!
I ain't mad atcha. Got nuthin' but love for ya.
Thanks for your service to the board! I certainly appreciate all you and the other moderators do to retain the dignity of this website.
I'm generally opposed to term-limits, but perhaps moderators should serve in 1-year terms to prevent burnout. They could serve as many terms as they wanted, but never two consecutively.
Thank you very much for your service, PGB. I have thanked mods before, because I think it is kind of a thankless job, but a very important one as the board is now structured. Ironically, there were several mean-spirited, snarky, sarcastic posters who ripped me for praising mods. It goes with the territory, but that's the kind of thing that makes being a mod numbing, between the stupidity and the claims of censorship and the group think and the occasional nastiness. I have seen a number of formerly active posters go into hibernation because of the tenor of the board to descend to pettiness and snarkiness. At times, I have to back away for a while myself. You have to have a thick skin. Thanks again, PGB, for being reasonable and wise in helping to administrate the board.
However, I think the possibility of true and unlimited negbangs may not be the panacea everyone so eagerly anticipates. I have been around long enough to remember true neg bangs and pos bangs. Sometimes, the group think here would allow a sometimes reasonable but unpopular position to be negbanged ridiculously. Let's face it, if you see scant positive votes, and negative votes going to 50 and beyond, it is tempting just to pile on.
The one thing with neg bangs that I'll never understand was why someone would continue to post and post and post in a thread where they were going down. I can vaguely remember a few who had maybe 10 posts in in a thread, and people going through the thread to neg bang each and every post. You could end up down a thousand very quickly. In that regard, any sane poster knew they better go lick their wounds and quit posting for a week or two, because anything they put up was going to be neg banged.
Enjoy your wife and children, your new identity, and your new-found freedom from slavery to the board. It is a liberating thing not to feel obligated to read every stinking post in every thread.
I agree about the return of unlimited pos/neg bangs. I think the better solution would be if every poster had a limited allocation of up/down votes per day. Hopefully it would make people think a little more about what they choose to vote on rather than negging everything they disagree with or upvoting mildly funny jokes that don't really add much.
I still think the previous system was the best - before you downvoted you had to consider whether you wanted to lose a point as well in the process. For really offensive comments downvoting was a no-brainer. But for comments that you simply disagreed with you might not downvote it. That's how it should work, IMO. Dissenting opinions should be downvoted, only those comments that are inappropriate (offensive, threadjackers, etc.).
I actually agree with you that the previous system was better than the current system. I just don't think it will solve all problems . . . some posters are still obnoxious (me included at times!) It would be interesting for someone who has been around a long time on the inside to assess whether the computer/virus/software meltdown leading to the loss of neg and pos bangs caused the change in the bad posts, or if it was only concurrent with the increase in bad posts.
Thanks for all the hard work. The ridiculous neg bombing wears on many of us with only 1/500th the commitment shown by you.
You simply need a symbol a la Prince to commemorate your former contributions.
Thanks profitgoblue, hope you find the life-blog balance you are looking for
I would also like to thank Profit for putting in the rather prolific hours of scouring the boards and trying to clean up the occasional mess left behind in a thread (or indeed, the thread itself).
It is very much appreciated and hopefully you continue to contribute as often as possible in your new role - your rest is well-earned, sir.
Good luck! (I note that it took you 2 hours to comment in this thread - a two-hour lag in reviewing threads is unacceptable!)
Ahhhh, hard work that goes unrecognized....as a stay at home Mom, I understand. At least my kids (hopefully) turn out to be fabulous adults, thus rewarding my efforts. Being a Mod, no such reward. Anonymous internet bloggers would drive me nuts also.
As always, Go Blue!
I didn't rage-quit. I HOLY-SH*T-I-CAN'T-STAND-YOU-PEOPLE quit. Get it right.
Congrats on the move, and welcome to the club. We're having t-shirts made. They just say, "You Know Who Else Quit His Mod Duties? HITLER."
"I survived MGOBLOG mod duties"????
Did you have your baby yet? I must have missed it....stats or it didn't happen.
Thanksgiving Day. 7 pounds, 9 ounces.
To the precise ounce. Baby BiSB is in good company.
there perhaps a link to this meltdown resignation?
A little part of me died that day but man was it funny!
was not too bad. When I heard that you rage-quit I was thinking something that you wanted to take back the minute after you posted it, that was actually pretty well thought out and it appears it was likely very cathartic. Congrats on the new edition. Welcome to parenthood. It sucks, and it is the greatest thing ever (yes, these two can co-exist)
and say thanks for taking care of the few so the many can enjoy.
Love the #21. Glad you share it too. My user profiles almost always include some variation of '21'. No idea why.
The #21 jersey had a lasting effect on all of my usernames and passwords. Oops, probably shouldn't have told you that. Dammit. Mods, delete this comment!
nonsensical, juvenile negging that has become very common here, you need to impose costs. If negging is cost-free and largely unregulated/unpoliced, it will continue to grow. Re-instituting the neg-bang might be a partial and necessary part of the solution, but there are alternative measures that could be taken:
• Make the ability to neg a comment or post dependent on the negger having a minimum number of points. I'd suggest 500 or 1,000.
• Negging posts or comments should cost the negger a number of points per neg. Perhaps the cost-per-neg could be adjusted based on the number of points the negger has, or how long they've been a member, or some combination. I'd make the argument that it shouldn't cost MGoShoe or Magnus or Blazefire (for example) as many points to neg a comment as it does a noob who's been on the site two months. However it's done, this will over time reduce the mindless, "I disagree with you so I'm gonna neg you" negging because it will cost. If you make the cost of negging steep enough, it will impel most people to husband their negging resources more carefully.
And fergodsakes, get rid of the idiotic negging categories we have now for starters. Just make it up or down. I don't give a shit whether somebody thinks another comment is "underrated" whatever the hell that means.
but then you hurt my feelings by saying you "don't give a shit."
Seriously, though, I agree that the existing categories don't get the job done, and that, short of adding about 20 more categories, it's probably best just to junk them. Also, I agree there should be a cost per neg. As for varying the cost by poster -- good idea, and I'm sending Brian a detailed list of my suggestions! Actually, I'm wondering if the cost should go up once you exceed a max-neg-per-day/month/year threshold -- the blog equivalent of anger management sessions.
I think Don's way would really work. I would also like to be able to see who negged you on top of it.
So, it makes sense for the mods to be able to see who negged whom (which IIRC they can't do either right now), but there's a danger in letting individual posters see who negged them: some people take it personally when they get negged. Say justingoblue posts something that Magnus finds offensive, and Magnus negs justingoblue for it. If JGB can see that Magnus was responsible for that downvote, and he takes it personally, he may start auto-negging Magnus in future threads. If Magnus catches on that JGB is auto-negging him, he may reciprocate. Or maybe Magnus doesn't care (and I picked him for this example because I know he doesn't IRL), but His Dudeness gets offended on Magnus's behalf and starts auto-negging JGB. Pretty soon, Magnus's and JGB's point totals stop having anything to do with the quality of their posts, and become dependent only on lingering bitterness from previous downvotes -- which is counterproductive to the whole point of having a point system in the first place.
And honestly, why do you need to know who up- or down-voted you? I can understand being curious, but on the whole, I suspect that knowledge will not generally lead to a more efficient, useful point system.