META: Forum posts same as front page posts
While I'm certainly not the most tenured member by a long shot here at MgoBlog, I have to say one of things I think could be improved is reducing the redundency of forum posts and front page posts posted in the same day. (Today, Brians post on Exposure U and then a forum topic on Exposure U. "Hello" Posts certainly the most common duplicates)
This seems to happen often, especially when there's big news. My suggestion for the mods is to delete forum topics posted that contain the exact same content as front page posts within the first 24 hours. I find myself switching back and forth between the two posts to read all of the comments and it would be nice if they could all be in one spot.
Please delete if this has been covered before and a consensus was reached.
April 24th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
I feel like there was just a front page post about this very topic...
Now THAT'S meta...
April 24th, 2015 at 11:58 AM ^
I respectfully disagree. While I know that the front page posts get plenty of comments, I always go to the forum posts for the discussion. It's nice to have all news and discussion on a convenient list under MGoBoard.
April 24th, 2015 at 11:59 AM ^
The forum post happens before the front page, and that is where most of the posters go to talk about whatever topic comes up. If anything, I'd be in favor of diverting the comments to strictly the board when this happens. Just my $.02 though
April 24th, 2015 at 12:02 PM ^
I agree. The nice thing about the board is that new comments bring the thread back to the top. If there are new comments on a front-page "Hello" post, you have to scroll down the page, go to page two, etc. to see if anyone has posted anything else.
Honestly, I think it would be best if every single front-page item also appeared on the board and followed the same procedure of bouncing to the top.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:20 PM ^
Serious question. What platform are you referring to when you say new comments bringing the thread back to the top? Is that a Twitter thing? I've never been able to figure out an efficient way to determine if someone responded to one of my posts.
#technicallychallenged
April 24th, 2015 at 12:22 PM ^
Click the "recent" tab under the MGoBoard header or go to mgoblog.com/tracker (that shows the front page and diaries as well).
Wow I never knew this....I always though "New" and "Recent" were kind of redundant but I had no idea why the topics were in a different order.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:00 PM ^
This kind of circles back to the "very few people actually read the front page" issue.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:05 PM ^
I think it'd be more accurate to say that the board is a different audience than the front page. That's my reasoning re: the OP.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:52 PM ^
Even for myself. I rarely go to the front page for the comments, however I often read the board more for the comments than the original post's actual content.
Agree. I see a lot of names on the front page comments that I rarely see ever comment on the MGoBoard. So I assume that subset really never make it over to the board (or choose not to comment I guess)
As Mo said, the board has content faster than the front page so for breaking type news if anything is redundant its actually the front page. Thru no fault of blog authors - there are 1000s of potential posters on the MGoboard and only 4-5 on the main board.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:03 PM ^
The front page needs to have a list of posts in the sidebar just like the forum and diaries do. Until that happens, most of the good discussion will take place in the forum.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:10 PM ^
April 24th, 2015 at 12:12 PM ^
If you find it too difficult to read two different threads about the same topic, I might suggest that you turn your efforts towards more productive uses of time, or perhaps get a new hobby. Woodworking is very "in" right now, so is home brewing.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:31 PM ^
Kind of a logic fail there, considering I'm trying to reduce the amount of time I spend clicking around the site to get the same information/discourse.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:34 PM ^
two different conversations/discussions, not the reading of the initial story. I agree, this is especially true if you want to check back in later in the day to see any new discussion that was posted since your last visit.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:19 PM ^
April 24th, 2015 at 12:38 PM ^
I love the front page posts. Brian, Ace, and company are excellent writers. But I go to the Board for discussion.
I did not downvote you, though.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:40 PM ^
I think if you don't read the front page stuff you're missing out on some good writing. But, just my .02.
Everyone has a fault. There aren't many former athletes who have the ability to write the way Brian does, or at least they don't take the time to do so. That's the choice you have to make as a written media consumer.
An oversimplification:
1. Do you want to read the words of nerds who have never played the sport?
2. Do you want to read the words of jocks who struggle to put together coherent sentences and paragraphs?
I agree, but then this blog probably isn't the place to hang out. I do not think Brian, Ace, or their other past writers (Tim Sullivan, TomVH, etc.) ever played football. I know Brian played hockey. I think Tim Sullivan was a cross country runner. I'm not sure about Seth.
football in my life. I have no problem with the analysis here. Of course, I'm not one of those guys who thinks I'm JFC, so I could not possibly care less if the writers get a few things wrong or mis-diagnosed. Now, I've never cared to read a UFR so maybe there's inaccuracies in there that make us "experts who've seen shit, man!" go crazy.
I just know that the front page and the board are immensely entertaining and usually a helluva lot better than working.
the finer points of the game, like a lot of us. The front Page makes the site, no questions asked, BRAH....
i'm just not a believer in all the sabermetric/quantification stuff for football or hoops, and recruiting roundups are generally days old info that has been on the board already.
Sports is the last bastion of quantification.
I'm convinced that the "Bro" is a trolling account set up by Brian/Seth/Ace/BiSB for our entertainment. This comment is priceless: "I'm just not a believer" in numbers/factual stuff.
Have you really only been around this site since the beginning of this year? I'd think Brian's post-game writings during football season are some of the most popular posts on here.
I'm the opposite. I think the front page stuff is typically pretty good; the board is really hit-or-miss for me. Some of the topics are great and have really interesting discussions; others just turn into flamewars between a couple of new posters who had their MLive accounts suspended.
Both parts of the site work well in concert, but for example I usually skip the board's commit posts until Ace or Brian post a more comprehensive breakdown on the main page. Then I'll delve into the comments of both once I have more of a sense. Otherwise, it can easily become the Dunaway/Austin situation.
April 25th, 2015 at 12:18 PM ^
I come to the site for the front page--better info, better writing--and much less flamebait in the comments for some reason. Frankly, I try to stay away from those Board posts when I know there will be incendiary comments. I am not always successful....because I have poor willpower.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:24 PM ^
From a mod standpoint, it works out partly because a fair number of people actually roll with the board first and the front page as time permits (I am in that group), so there are enough people that get the information here to warrant keeping a good portion of the threads which technically overlap front page content. Also, the discussion tends to be broarder here on most topics (on the board, that is), so there is that to consider too and as JGB mentioned, the audience is different here - in fact, I would say that the front page and the board itself have had sufficient divergent evolution over time that they are almost sites unto themselves in some resepcts.
One other thing to consider is that content rolls off the front page faster at certain times of the year than it does on the board, making the board arguably more convienient for some folks.
April 24th, 2015 at 12:27 PM ^
Can I hit the OP with a wet noodle? Yay or nay?
April 24th, 2015 at 12:48 PM ^
MeanJoe07!!
<Shakes fist>
April 24th, 2015 at 12:49 PM ^
Fire away!
I would appreciate if Brian could figure out a way that I didn't have to click on topics to read them. I mean I first have to click, then read, then click back, click on a new topic, read, click back, click, click, click, click, click! Who has time for this? I have more important things to do!