BlueDragon

October 7th, 2011 at 10:16 PM ^

Someone's sure defensive about the reviews this link is getting so far.  I guess you'll have to "flamebait" me too.

FTR Ramzy of 11W praises the piece in the comments.

Marley Nowell

October 7th, 2011 at 10:21 PM ^

In Urban Meyer's first major courtship he chose Florida over ND because his family did not want him to have to recruit nationally.  OSU fits that criteria as well but with their impending sanctions it seems unlikely Meyer would take the job in 2012.  PSU makes some sense, particularly if JoePa gives him his blessing, and there is a solid recruiting base that would allow Meyer to not have to stray too far from home.

The best parts(and most accurate) of this article are the ones detailing how fractured OSU is on every level, starting with the administration, all the way down to coaches and players. It is going to be interesting to see what their 2012 recruiting class is going to look like.

SysMark

October 7th, 2011 at 10:59 PM ^

In Urban Meyer's first major courtship he chose Florida over ND because his family did not want him to have to recruit nationally.  

This is absolutely not the way I recall how this went.  My understanding at the time was he wanted a return at ND to the relatively lax admission standards Lou Holtz enjoyed...and tightened up after Lou left...when they refused he went to Florida.

Major revisionism alert

Marley Nowell

October 7th, 2011 at 11:58 PM ^

But ND still pulls in Top10 talent every year even with their supposedly higher admission standards.  If you read any of the articles about Meyer's last year in Florida and subsequent departure you really get the feeling he is totally pussy whipped.

SysMark

October 8th, 2011 at 4:49 PM ^

That may be true now but I'm pretty sure it wasn't his reasoning back then.  They do get top talent but apparently he didn't think it would be good enough for him with the exceptions.  The number six is correct as per another poster here - that's how many Holtz was getting.

NJWolverine

October 8th, 2011 at 4:58 AM ^

FWIW, total hearsay, but I have a good friend who who has multiple legacies at ND and whose family knows a lot of boosters.  He told me that Meyer wanted 6 players each year he could override with admissions, and at the time ND was only willing to give him 1, so that's why he didn't take the job.  Of course, with guys like Blanton it's pretty obvious they're still making exceptions, but Meyer really wanted to stretch that.  It'll be interesting to see if they're making exceptions with Kelly now that they're more desperate for wins. 

NateVolk

October 7th, 2011 at 10:44 PM ^

Don't laugh, but there is a possibility that Ohio will reemerge with more law and order type leadership when slimy Gene Smith is sent packing. Urban Meyer and his prolific track record of recruiting and coddling non-law abiding players at Florida might not be the best fit.   

This is still the school of Woody Hayes, a stickler for doing things the right way in recruiting. Somewhere there has to be a sane element with influence who demand it becomes that again?

Yes, I am sober if you were wondering.

BlockM

October 7th, 2011 at 11:30 PM ^

No no no, that whole ordeal was the PLAYER's fault. It wasn't Hayes's fault he was put in that situation! What else could he do? He was looking out for the best interests of his team!

Yost Ghost

October 8th, 2011 at 3:08 PM ^

is that the announcers never figured out what started the brawl. They never seemed to pursue it beyond one replay angle. The initial camera angle clearly shows Hayes punching Bauman but the angle they use for the replay is behind Bauman so you can't see the punch. I can't believe with a brawl that size they wouldn't have been dissecting the replay from every angle.

BRCE

October 7th, 2011 at 11:46 PM ^

There's a lot of bad things one can say about Woody Hayes and I think the idolization of his persona is a big part of the reason so many OSU fans think disorderly public behavior is cool, but at the end of the day he's also a guy who was making less than $30,000 a year near the end of his career, turned down huge offers at raises from the school every year and drove an old pickup truck.

That's kind of hard not to respect.

 

 

FrankMurphy

October 8th, 2011 at 1:26 AM ^

His temper was a huge character flaw, but Woody was a respectable guy and a man of great personal integrity (he gave us Bo, after all). The irony is that he was the antithesis of Tressel in almost every way: whereas Tressel is a phony, politician-like slimeball, Woody was an expressive, no-nonsense teacher. He loved the game, he loved his players, he loved coaching, and he didn't care about money. What happened under Tressel would never have happened under Woody. 

NateVolk

October 7th, 2011 at 10:45 PM ^

Don't laugh, but there is a possibility that Ohio will reemerge with more law and order type leadership when slimy Gene Smith is sent packing. Urban Meyer and his prolific track record of recruiting and coddling non-law abiding players at Florida might not be the best fit.   

This is still the school of Woody Hayes, a stickler for doing things the right way in recruiting. Somewhere there has to be a sane element with influence who demand it becomes that again?

Yes, I am sober if you were wondering.

Yooper

October 7th, 2011 at 10:51 PM ^

He still needs to chill for some more time and he is waiting for the USC job. Kiffin is a place holder. USC will make it work for Meyer.

Maize and Blue…

October 8th, 2011 at 7:14 AM ^

With everything that is coming out about Kiffin's tenure at Tennessee, I wonder if a show cause is in order.  The bigger question, would the NCAA give him a show cause with him being at USC now?  IMO, the corruption wasn't at Tennessee before Kiffin and doesn't appear to be their now with Dooley.  Even though the show cause would effect USC it is their fault for hiring the sleaze.

Mr Miggle

October 7th, 2011 at 11:22 PM ^

Over at 11W they mostly seem to think they can get any coach they want. I can't see Meyer wanting to walk into that mess. Their next coach is probably going to be someone like Tim Beckman. If OSU wants to rebuild that fence around Ohio Toledo is a good place to start.

BRCE

October 7th, 2011 at 11:49 PM ^

Meyer will not be successful at his next coaching job, wherever that may be. His battles with health are going to get worse, not better.

g_reaper3

October 7th, 2011 at 11:54 PM ^

For example Michigan.  Or how about ND with Gary Barnett and Urban Meyer.  The problem is a coach like Urban Meyer or Jon Gruden can basically go wherever they want.  So it is not a slame dunk by any means.

maizenblue92

October 8th, 2011 at 12:18 AM ^

My uncle runs an OSU website and he all of his readers fully believe that Urban Meyer is going to be the next HC at tsio. They also believe that if they dont get him then they get either Chrs Pederson, Gary Patterson, Jon Gruden, or Dan Mullen citing that Ohio will throw too much money at them to turn it down.

aiglick

October 8th, 2011 at 10:26 AM ^

This sounds familiar. If they were smart Ohio fans would wait until the end of the season to judge Fickell. Their treatment of him would make it hard for anyone to want to coach there.

Tater

October 8th, 2011 at 12:35 AM ^

What he said:
Dantonio has told a source close to SRU that he would at least listen to any overtures from Ohio State.
What he meant: "I would abandon my 'beloved Spartans' in a heartbeat to go to Columbus even if the school is on five-year probation."

Farnn

October 8th, 2011 at 12:54 AM ^

That's actually what I'm hoping happens, and it doesn't seem as impossible as MSU or OSU fans seem to think.  Gee and Smith have shown themselves to be pretty incompetent when it comes to handling the football program, I wouldn't put bungling a coaching search past them.