Mel Kiper on Michigan prospects; Your 2017 draft predictions

Submitted by TheReal_GR3 on

In a teleconference on Tuesday Mel Kiper spoke about the 2016 Michigan draft prospects, even mentioning Mario Ojemudia as a sleeper. I won't link the article on Mario as it is from the Freep. 

Kiper also got into the 2017 draft going as far as mentioning Jourdan Lewis the 2nd best corner behind Adoree Jackson at USC (remember him?).

LINK 

What are your predictions, based on round, for the 2017 draft? How many players get drafted? Would love to have some fun with this. I'll post my prediction shortly. 

ScruffyTheJanitor

April 20th, 2016 at 10:52 AM ^

after a 57 sack, 135 tackle, 13 FF season. Jabrill goes second, fresh off a 37 INT, 62 PBU, 100 tackle season. Jehu Chesson comes in at 3rd with his 2,900 yard 45 TD season fresh in everyones mind. 

Zone Left

April 20th, 2016 at 10:54 AM ^

Peppers: top-10 (frowny or happy?)
Lewis: top-15
Glasgow: 4th round
Charlton: 4th round
Thomas: 5th round
Kalis: 6th round

Overall, probably the strongest class we've had in a long time. Lewis is awesome, but not quite a prototype NFL corner, Peppers is just uber-talented, ideal size, and will be really productive. I think Kalis puts it all together this year and is drafted.

Oh yeah, forgot about Wormley. He's an early 2nd round pick. Chesson probably goes in the 4th or so.

UM Fan from Sydney

April 20th, 2016 at 11:02 AM ^

Definitely frowny for us, but good for him. If he has another great season this year, he will definitely declare for the draft. As long as he helps us win a lot, I'd be alright with that, but still upset because I want him to play for Michigan as long as possible.

Bodogblog

April 20th, 2016 at 11:18 AM ^

You also forgot Butt (which, how?), and Darboh who's going to get fl drafted mid rounds if he has the breakout year many are talking about. Stribling also has a chance to get drafted mid-late based on his performance (though this is much longer shot, we don't know, but size everyone loves these days is there), as do both Thomas and Hill. Thomas has all the speed and athleticism you'd want in a safety, if he's a playmaker and executes his assignments he could go high adyer a breakout year on a dominant defense. Hill is huge, strong, and fast, he'll test well at the combine (hopefully) or pro day; if he improves and makes plays he could go mid rounds as well. Again lots of variance on those 3, but I'd bet at least one of them goes mid rounds or bether (probably Thomas). Also bet someone will fall in love with Braden's size and take him late. Lots of starts in the B1G, he could prove something this year.

Avon Barksdale

April 20th, 2016 at 11:05 AM ^

Peppers - Middle of 1st round (if he goes)

Lewis - late first round due to size

Butt - Middle 2nd round

Wormley - 3rd round on par with Mike Martin

Chesson - 3rd round - seems on par with Chris Conley of UGA in 2015

Taco - late 5th round

Kalis - late 5th round, NFL will love 3 year starter in Harbaugh offense with NFL bloodlines

Darboh - 6th round due to speed

Dymonte - 6th round if he can run well at Pro Day (which I expect)

Stribling/Clark - 7th round flyer

**Also think De'Veon, Delano, Braden, and Magnuson will get a shot at camp.** That would put us 1st or 2nd in the 2015 draft of most picked players. It should be fun to see the Michigan brand flashed all over the place once again after all these years.

 

 

StephenRKass

April 20th, 2016 at 11:20 AM ^

All these guys came in under Hoke. He was a good recruiter. As happy as I am to have Harbaugh, Hoke was not a bad guy, and brought in some solid talent. It at least allowed Harbaugh to hit the ground running and not have to build the program up from nothing. You can see how Carr slacked off at the end, and how RR was recruiting differently, by the number of guys from Michigan who went on to the NFL.

lilpenny1316

April 20th, 2016 at 12:02 PM ^

If Mallett would have stayed or if we were stacked at QB like other years under Carr (Griese/ Driesbach/Brady or Henson/Navarre or Henne/Gutierrez), RR's first team is likely bowl bound.  We probably beat at least three of Utah, Toledo, MSU, Purdue and Northwestern with Mallet or another good QB.  The cupboard was not bare.

I think all of our coaches have done a decent enough job of leaving enough talent for the next coach to be successful in year one.  But if you look at the first years of Moeller, Carr, RR, Hoke and Harbaugh, you'll see that the teams with experienced QBs did really well.  Those without struggled.  

 

JonnyHintz

April 20th, 2016 at 6:44 PM ^

Not really. Threet just had a string of bad luck. He's a pocket passing QB. Commits to Georgia Tech, who immediately switches to a triple option. Transfers to Michigan. Sits out a year. Michigan switches to a spread option. Transfers to Arizona State. Sits out a year. Arizona switches to a passing spread. Threet then suffers from concussion issues.

JonnyHintz

April 20th, 2016 at 6:47 PM ^

Not to mention Mallet, who transferred, but to say Carr didn't recruit a QB is asinine. He had Mallett as a starter and Threet (a top 10 recruit at his position as you mentioned) as his backup. Isn't it Rich Rod's job to fit his offense to the players he has? He had plenty of talent and high ranked players. They just didn't fit his scheme and Rich Rod refused to adjust to his personnel.

UMxWolverines

April 20th, 2016 at 1:11 PM ^

Exactly. Our defense should have been fine that year but it turned to crap after the Purdue game. Terrance Taylor, Will Johnson, Brandon Graham, Obi Ezeh, Jonas Mouton, Stevie Brown. All those guys could have been studs with proper coaching. 

Offense had Greg Matthews, Martavious Odoms, Junior Hemmingway, Darryl Stonum, Brandon Minor. That was not and should not have been a 3 win team. Maybe a ceiling of 8 or 9 wins, but come on. 

ST3

April 20th, 2016 at 3:25 PM ^

had a walk-on QB or a freshman QB, and the line consisted of:

http://cfn.scout.com/2/751995.html

LT 71 Mark Ortmann  6-7 294 Jr.
69 Bryant Nowicki 6-9 326 So.

LG 62 Tim McAvoy  6-6 288 Jr.
72 Mark Huyge 6-6 292 RFr.

C 60 David Moosman 6-5 292 Jr.
50 David Molk 6-2 282 RFr.

RG 75 Cory Zirbel 6-5 292 Jr.
72 Mark Huyge 6-6 292 RFr.

RT 52 Stephen Schilling  6-5 295 So.
79 Perry Dorrestein 6-7 308 So.

Schilling and Molk were good. Dorrestein and Ortmann were OK. Moosman was a better guard than he was a center (and Molk took the job from him as a RS Fr.)

Almost all of those guys are sub-300 pounds. Rich Rod wanted quick, slim offensive linemen. That didn't work so well the first year. Combine that with a QB with my arm strength and you get an historically bad offense. Look at what Carr left Rich Rod to work with: Ortmann, McAvoy, Moosman, Zirbel, and Schilling (I'm not counting the frosh because you never should rely on freshman linemen starting.) Combine that with Rich Rod teaching them a new offense, and yeah, you get a 3 win season.

You can have all the great skill position players you want, but if you don't have a line to open holes for them, or a QB to get them the ball, you aren't going to succeed.

JonnyHintz

April 20th, 2016 at 6:42 PM ^

.....They lost to Toledo.... Toledo went 3-9 in the MAC that season. You're telling me they shouldn't have been better? That was by no means a 10+ win team, but there's no justifiable reason that Michigan shouldn't have went to a bowl.

ST3

April 21st, 2016 at 12:34 PM ^

because Lloyd left the cupboard bare at QB. Nick Sheridan and/or RS Frosh Steven Threet aren't taking a team to a bowl game behind that offensive line when we can't afford a major mistake against Toledo. So you're making my point for me. I don't know what else to tell you.