Meeting former U of M athletes and etiquette

Submitted by SteelCityMafia on

I'll begin by throwing out the obligatory "sorry if this is too OT, mods delete" statement.  Anyway, I'm in grad school at NMU in Marquette and am perusing the class list for the fall semester and happened across a Weight Training and Conditioning course taught by former WR Marcus Knight (who happens to be the WR coach up here, for those wondering why he's at NMU).  I'm debating taking the course for laughs 'n giggles, since I go to the gym regularly anyway, and was wondering if it was bad form to take the course simply because it's Marcus Knight and/or to talk to him about his Michigan days. 

Something tells me it seems like a bad idea, but I thought I'd get the crowds opinion on this.  I don't plan on being obnoxious or anything, just thought it'd be cool to say I've taken a class with him and maybe pick his brain a little bit.

Shorty the Bea…

March 26th, 2013 at 1:06 AM ^

The only thing that would be in bad form would be to rob yourself of the opportunity to take a class that you might be interested in for any reason.  What, you want to subject yourself to courses that might bore you to death because some mythical creature thinks it's in good form?  Is it bad form that any UofM student wants to take John Bacon's course simply because he/she admires Bacon's writings?  Just take the course if you so desire!  Oh, and way to go on the double thread..

Password is Taco

March 26th, 2013 at 1:24 AM ^

It's school; who cares if you take a couple extra credits as long as you can afford it? I'd definitely sign up for this class given the opportunity.

Having said that, I also took Fitness Swimming, Taekwondo, and Space Policy while getting my undergrad degree in Int'l Business. Sometimes it's worth it to stretch your legs academically and try something outside the box.

PS: Before I transferred out of George Mason, I opted not to take a Sports Management class taught by former Redskins GM and current NFL Network analyst Charles Casserly. Biggest regret of my college career.

Well...Well...Well

March 26th, 2013 at 1:35 AM ^

I always consider professors when signing up for courses...whenever you have an opportunity to interact with people who are leaders in their field or have some sort of interesting experience to talk about it's a great opportunity.

michfan6060

March 26th, 2013 at 1:38 AM ^

I took weight training and conditioning when I went to school at Northern. It was taught by a really skinny Indian guy though. 

vbnautilus

March 26th, 2013 at 2:21 AM ^

You're playing with fire.   In general, people do not like to be asked about themselves and may become very angry and agitated in response.  It is well known that among the most insulting inquiries one can make is to request that a man talk about his glory days as as college football player.   You might as well just ask him to tell you about his sex life.  Way way off limits in a class about physical fitness.  

 

Just totally tactless.  You should be ashamed for even asking us about asking him.  

stephenrjking

March 26th, 2013 at 2:37 AM ^

If you want to take the class, go for it, but be prepared for the possibility that he really isn't interested in talking about his football career or Michigan. If you can enjoy taking a class from him without talking football or even much personal talk at all, go for it.

Then, with that in mind, it won't hurt for you (preferably after the first week or so, when any odd class questions have died down) to approach him once and politely mention that you remember his playing days and you really enjoyed them. Put out a feeler, see how he responds. If he doesn't mind talking about it, great. If not, give him a wide berth. And try not to be too Chris Farley about it.

Personal anecdote: Mark Hughes, from the '89 basketball team, lived across the street from my grandparents when he coached in Grand Rapids, and attended my grandmother's visitation when she passed away. There were roughly 100 old, short, white people milling around chatting and remembering my grandmother, and one 6'10 African American basketball coach.

So my Dad went up to him and began talking about how much he loved that team. Being my dad, I was a bit embarassed, but Mark didn't seem to mind (more importantly, neither did my mother who was grieving the loss of her mom) and they had a pleasant conversation. Later I introduced myself, but rather than talk basketball I just shook hands and said I was glad to meet him.

I feel like "known" people appreciate just being talked to as regular people. But when one is an instructor and you have regular interaction, he might enjoy the conversation.

Seth

March 26th, 2013 at 4:56 AM ^

In my experience, former players LOVE talking Michigan football with the knowledgeable. Don't be a weirdo but I don't see any reason to take his class and then not engage him on matters of football.

Also guys who played around his time seem to be the most happy to talk. Younger guys still aren't sure where they fit and what might end up in a newspaper or affect their careers, older guys simply just don't give a fuck, but I've recently met Brandon Williams (runs Go Blue Then and Now, did a liveblog with us), Marlin Jackson (will be at the MGoBlog spring game event), Diallo Johnson (son plays at OLSM; his mom sold me my car), and Ronald Bellamy (coaches West Bloomfield High, did the liveblog with B) and all have been really cool.

canzior

March 26th, 2013 at 8:11 AM ^

I would put up a video of Stewie...going OMG! OMG! OMG! and clapping furiously.  Thats what I did when I met Brady Hoke and Mattison last week.  They understood completely.  It was not awkward. At All.

dahblue

March 26th, 2013 at 10:09 AM ^

Take the class if you're interested in it.  I only met Marcus once, but he was super nice and humble.  A number of former Michigan players were customers of mine at my former business.  Marcus stopped in (only once that I recall) with a couple other guys and was introduced to me as a fellow Michigan Man.  Sometimes, you've just gotta remember that these guys love Michigan as much as we all do.

MGoStrength

March 26th, 2013 at 10:24 AM ^

I think it's only bad if you taking the course keeps others from taking it that have a real interest or need to take it.  Personally, my undergraduate strength and conditioning class was my favorite class I've ever had...so it sounds awesome to me but then again I'm a strength coach.  Add to that a former UM football player teaching it and that's an opportunity you can't pass up.  Plus you'd have a legitimate opportuniy to build at least a professional relationship/contact with a former player...pretty cool in my book.  There is nothing wrong with choosing a class based on the teacher.  Out of my own curiosity what did Marcus get his undergrad/grad in that qualifies him to teach it...or is it just his experience as an athlete?

 

Edit: Looks like he got his undergrad in a general studies sort of major and his masters in sports administration...not sure how that qualifies him to teach this class, but it's not that unusual that football coaches teach these classes.  There's probably not a lot of content like exercise science, exercise physiology, biomechanics, etc. taught, just exercise execution and working out.

evenyoubrutus

March 26th, 2013 at 10:22 AM ^

When I was 19 I was working at a movie theater and in walked Chris Perry, on his way to see the Return of the King.  I didn't really know what to say because it was the first time I had met a star athlete in a non-controlled setting (like media day or whatever) but I shook his hand and said some things that were kind of (or extremely) embarrassing.  That is all I will say.

MGoBlue95

March 26th, 2013 at 10:34 AM ^

It was many years ago, when had just joined the NFL and before he had made a name for himself as a pro.  I'm not sure why I recognized him, but I did, and I walked up and introduced myself as a UM alum.  He was so happy to be recognized, and could not have been nicer.  We chatted for a few minutes, I wished him luck, and went on my way.  Very cool experience.

Conversely, I met Desmond Howard when he was elected to the Cleveland Sports Hall of Fame.  He hung around to chat with people after the event, and while he was as nice as can be, I was a blithering fanboy...I was a freshman at UM during his Heisman campaign.

French West Indian

March 26th, 2013 at 11:11 AM ^

Since you asked it like this:

...and was wondering if it was bad form to take the course simply because it's Marcus Knight and/or to talk to him about his Michigan days.

Then, yes, I would describe that as bad form.  Taking a college class (at the graduate level, nonetheless) for the sole reason of chatting up a former football player is pathetic...and maybe even borderline stalker creepy.  But if you've got other legit reasons for taking the class then I wouldn't let it stop you either.