September 29th, 2014 at 10:14 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 10:15 AM ^
this Goofy Board reads like Fox News . . .
September 29th, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^
this board is Virtually WORTHLESS . . .
September 29th, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 10:23 AM ^
is that you?
September 29th, 2014 at 10:35 AM ^
I suppose you're an MSNBC lackey? Or are you the high-brow liberal who prefers that fool Maher? Thanks, but I know who I prefer getting my news from:
...oh mama.
September 29th, 2014 at 1:29 PM ^
Good grief guys, can we maybe stop with who is more sexist in how they "prefer" their "news"?
If they way you pick your news source is by how "hawt" the female anchor is, you are a moron.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:39 AM ^
I see that the Elucidating Fox News Analysis on this thread continues to move . . .
September 29th, 2014 at 11:01 AM ^
Fox News = the opposition
Yeah, I'll take that comparison you're unwittingly making.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:59 AM ^
You mean you want to silence opinions of which you don't agree?
That's a surprise.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:17 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 10:38 AM ^
Not to mention if he was cleared to play why did he get carted off when the game was over? It wasn't just for shits and giggles...
September 29th, 2014 at 10:18 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 10:51 AM ^
If Stephen Ross is in DB's corner, rest assured the same is true of the Regents as well. DB isn't going anywhere. This shit show will continue for the foreseeable future.
September 29th, 2014 at 11:04 AM ^
Until Stephen Ross and the other big donors call for action with the Regents, most likely nothing will happen. Unlike everyone else (you and I, former lettermen, employees of the AD, the media, alums) he treats these fellow gazillionaires like gold. So, they probably like him.
September 29th, 2014 at 12:33 PM ^
to make up the revenues that will be lost from those proles shelling out over a grand per season ticket.
Maybe Coke can chip in, too, with that $3-for-two-bottles revenue stream.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:21 AM ^
Terribilis est locus iste
September 29th, 2014 at 10:24 AM ^
child, please.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:24 AM ^
Pay no mind to the fact that Shane Morris staggered like a punch drunk immediately after the hard helmet-to-helmet hit he absorbed. The timing of the two is purely coincidental.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:26 AM ^
He is going to feel like this is somehow his fault. I don't know what he thinks about the coaching staff, but it's clear he loves UM. Now he is stuck in a situation where the whole team is involved in his injury situation and all he wanted to do was help the team win.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:35 AM ^
Yep. There's no doubt in my mind that Morris feels horrible that the coach who recruited him and that he personally likes is taking such heat now over something that happened to Shane. It's like kids whose parents get divorced frequently feel responsible for the breakup. He probably feels like he let Hoke and the team down, which is the reverse of what happened.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:29 AM ^
They obviously didn't evaluate him for a concussion. The only possible explanation of that is that they weren't paying enough attention to have developed a suspicion that he had a concussion.
Unless Heiko goes front page or some other MGoDoctor turns up with a convincing and thorough explanation of why those were not concussion-like symptoms, there's no getting out of this one. Sorry, Cold War.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:30 AM ^
So...they conducted their concussion tests and cleared him from the sideline while Morris was still playing immediately following that hit? Wow, I'm impressed with the long-range medical exam giving abilities of our medical staff and how quickly the passing results were giving to the coaching staff who weren't even aware an exam was needed.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:31 AM ^
of course thats totally irrelevant
September 29th, 2014 at 10:31 AM ^
Apparently the concussion analysis went like this:
Trainers: "How many fingers am I holding up, Shane? 4? Well, I guess a thumb isn't a finger. You're good to go."
September 29th, 2014 at 10:31 AM ^
The OP is guilty of omission and irrelevance. When was he cleared? So you're saying he was cleared immediately after the big hit, you know, after he wobbled and then stayed in the game? That's what we're concerned about. That's what's relevant. That's not what you're (or Sam Webb is) saying. The medical staff was able to determine from a distance after seeing Morris wobble that (1) his leg was fine and more importantly (2) he was not concussed despite exhibiting clear signs of a concussion?
What do we really need here?
(1) Morris exhibits signs of a concussion (let's just skip the leg).
(2) Concussion test required.
What actually happened?
(1) Morris exhibits signs of a concussion
(2) Morris stays in the game (no concussion test given)
(3) Morris comes out of the game
(4) Morris returns to the game (no concussion test given)
Essentially, there is no possible way that Morris was cleared to play in the relevant sense: to be cleared to play, he must be evaluated, and to be evaluated, he must come off the field. Perhaps what Sam is referring to is step (4). It's clear that a trainer looked at him after (3), but no concussion test was ever given and that is after (1) and (2). We're worried about (1) and (2) here. It follows that the "cleared to play" is irrelevant and misidentifies the issue.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:32 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 10:35 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 10:37 AM ^
I am now a former listener and former subscriber to Scout after this:
-----Original Message-----
From: studio <[email protected]>
To: Stephen Parks <[email protected]>
Sent: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 9:36 am
Subject: Re: Starting to lose all respect for you Sam
-----Original Message-----
From: "Stephen Parks" <[email protected]>
Sent 09/29/2014 9:32:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Starting to lose all respect for you Sam
Here is Brady from this morning.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:59 AM ^
I was listening this morning at 6 am and Ira started out the show with a 10 minute concocted excuse for why "Hoke" probably didn't see anything and the medical staff knows whats up. It was such an obvious cover up. They're just toting the company line so they don't get cut off from info.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:39 AM ^
Why has no one asked the silly (but obvious, IMO) question:
Is "Cold War" the leader of the Athletic Department gnomes that come here to support the status quo? His/her join date isn't perfect (a year late), but I wonder.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:39 AM ^
Now that we know the Shane was medically cleared to go back into the game
1) Does the NCAA also use the SCAT-2 testing for sideline assessment of concussions (used by the NFL)
2) I've Googled the test and it looks like it takes 15-20 minutes to complete
I've reviewed the sequence tape and these are my observations. To be generous I calculated the time that Shane Morris actually stepped off of the field until he left the bench to take the snap for Gardner......elapsed time 1 minute and 33 seconds. I've tried to link the SCAT-2 assesment tool......there is no way you complete this assessment in that amount of time
http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2014/02/20/0ap2000000327062.pdf
If any of you have expertise in the field of concussion assessment I was hoping you could share your knowledge. Thanks
September 29th, 2014 at 10:43 AM ^
He was out of the game for 2-4 mins, there is zero chance that he was cleared. Zero.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:46 AM ^
He was cleared to return after being looked at for an ankle injury only, correct? It does not appear that they at all evaluated him for a possible concussion.
September 29th, 2014 at 10:57 AM ^
training. That was a pee wee football, pee wee hockey type decision to make. It was egregious to keep him in the game and not recognize the "wobbley walking", sensitivity to light, etc. symptoms that every youth coach on our board is able to recognize and immediately sit the kid. The helmet hit to the jaw by itself demanded a medical check for concussion.
And, assistant coaches are told to step in on behalf of kids and keep them out if they saw the symptoms. Now, not only does our coach look completely incompetent but so too does our medical staff. This is such crap I cannot believe it. WTF.
I'm literally unable to recognize my alma mater today.
Taking responsibility, working hard, there's no wrong time do the the right thing and no right time to do the wrong thing. Where did all this go???????? Michigan Man my ass. This is a joke. We all need to be humbled and realize what made us who we are. The perceived arrogance was from the fact that we were the leaders and best. Now we're just arrogant; embarrassing.
How stupid do they think we all are?
Totally agree with the Michigan Daily. Hoke must go today!
Complete incompetence. I would not be surprised if students decide to begin a boycott on the next home game or games until he and Brandon are fired or resign.
This is unacceptable.
September 29th, 2014 at 11:00 AM ^
Right..."cleared"....
September 29th, 2014 at 11:01 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 11:09 AM ^
No faith in anything being reported. I can only beleive my eyes anymore.
I am actually curious about the total lack of noise coming from anyone even remotely associated with the current program.
Is the fort that good at shutting down dissent or are the troops rallying behind their beloved leader? Maybe it erally is a non issue?
For sure I'd have thought someone, somewhere, be it a player, parent or friend would have said something.
September 29th, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 11:10 AM ^
It's like a fire sale. Everything must go. No pun intended.
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September 29th, 2014 at 11:13 AM ^
There's no way in hell Morris was tested for a concussion before he went back in the game. None, zero, zip. That's simply a breathtaking lack of regard for player safety.
It's really bad that he was even allowed to run the next play. Putting him back in after you've pulled him for injury is literally incomprehensible.
September 29th, 2014 at 11:30 AM ^
... after going through our extensively insufficient protocal, as inept as the rest of our football administration, we determined Shane Morris was fit to play.
September 29th, 2014 at 11:36 AM ^
September 29th, 2014 at 11:54 AM ^
They cleared him. Because he didn't have a concussion. Fuck it, if everyone else can be so goddamned sure of it, I can be as well.
September 29th, 2014 at 12:04 PM ^
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September 29th, 2014 at 12:25 PM ^
Why only half? I see closer to 95%. At this point, there is absolutely nothing that this staff could do that would make them more of an embarrassment than this fan base.
September 29th, 2014 at 12:32 PM ^
there is absolutely nothing that this staff could do that would make them more of an embarrassment than LITERALLY EVERYONE IN THE COUNTRY EXCEPT FOR LIKE 10 DUMBASSES ON MGOBLOG.
September 29th, 2014 at 12:50 PM ^
Exactly. Thanks for proving the point. Hoke was a standup guy, and may win or lose, but he does it the right way and cares deeply for his players above all else. Until he's 2-3. Then he would blatantly TRY to keep an injured player on the field, have absolutely no regard for his players health, and go out of his way to lie to the media afterward. Just to keep a QB on the field, you know, because he was lighting it up out there. Yup. That's the deal.