McShay: Hard to imagine Pryor as NFL QB

He's the last piece to the Cleveland Browns puzzle.  First Super Bowl win (or appearance) with Pryor on their side, because he can dominate in any system.

When you combine a few facts, I don't think it looks so good for Terrelle in the supplemental draft. Working on the assumption that he is not a NFL QB (feel free to disagree), you have a guy that has to learn a whole new position at the NFL level. Add to this the fact that he is not a team player, and that he totally lacks judgement and maturity, you've got a pretty dismal combination. If this is what the kid does in college, what can we expect from him after he gets a few NFL paychecks in his pocket? 

I wouldn't have a thing to do with him, but there's always the Raiders, Bengals, et al. I'd guess someone will take a flyer on him in the 5th round or so.

would be hilarious.

Is a prototypical NFL pocket passer with a great arm and some character issues.  How long did he last in the draft?  Pryor doesn't have Mallett's arm or pocket presence, and he makes Ryan look like a choir boy.  He has never played WR or TE, where he seems to project as an alternative to QB.  Why would invest a draft pick on him before a late round?  TP is about to find out that all the NFL money he's been counting on isn't there, and there are no boosters waiting to make sure he has a nice set of wheels. 

His value is at Qb, because he's got that scrambler athleticism to create something out of nothing. That means 2 or 3 years of honing his delivery and teaching him to read defenses, all the while carrying one of the most controversial players in recent college football history on your roster, and there seems to be little chance the coaching would stick.

Even if you put him at Wr, he's not a great fit anywhere. As athletic as he is, he's not a burner, and he's not particularly elusive in the open field. Plus he has zero experience running routes, which is already one of the biggest adjustments coming into the NFL, even for full time college WR. Maybe he could have some value as a big target near the goalline, but any non top 2 WR in the NFL should have special teams value, something he probably feels he is above. He's barely worth the roster spot right now, let alone the draft pick.

Hopefully he can follow in Jared Lorenzen's footsteps and become GM/Qb of the soon to be formed Columbus Tribal Arm Bands of the AFL.

The evidence doesn't support this. Do we really need to rattle off a list of crap quarterbacks who inexplicably played a down in the NFL, in some cases several seasons, flaming out spectactularly?

OK then. Let us count the ways in which Sundays exploded in national storms of fffffffffuuuuuhhhh....rage:

Rich Campbell

David Whitehurst

Mike Phipps

Randy Wright

Joey Harrington

Andre Ware

Rick Mirer

Heath Shuler

Ryan Leaf

Akili Smith

Tim Couch

David Carr

All of these guys royally sucked in the NFL.  They were godawful.

His royal Dumbness, Terrelle Pryor, doesn't even have to match that kind of suckage.  The question is can he be just nanometrically better than any of these college superstars? 

Absolutely he can.

There's plenty of reasons to hate the NFL and their quarterbacks starting with overly complicated playbooks, wimpy single and dual-bar faceguards and sissy sliding well short of a first down.

But the worst part about the NFL is this notion that only certain guys are the "caliber" to play quarterback at the NFL.

All I'm saying is if guys like David Whitehurst, Rich Campbell, Randy Wright  and wait for it Magic Don Majkowski can play starting quarterback for the Green Bay Packers, then Terrelle Pryor can find a spot too.

There's a longer list here that says that just aboutanybody can play at the NFL, suck, and continue to grab a decent paycheck with benefits, in some cases for multiple seasons..

That's all Terrelle Pryor ever wanted anyway.

I almost died laughing the other day watching Matt Millen talk about Pryor and how he could be a qb at the next level and how he throws good and all this other high praise. HA! Of course we all know how great Millen was at evaluating talent.

I actually think Pryor could be a decent pass-catching TE (6'6", 240lbs is only a little lighter than Jeremy Shockey), and in the right system he could be a Kordell Stewart/Randle-El type guy who could serve as an H-Back and run some misdirection.  Heck, line him up in the Wildcat and see what happens.  I know people knock his lack of intelligence and funky delivery, but there simply are not that many physical specimens like him that come into the league every year, and on the right team I could see him succeed.  Part of me definitely wants to see him fall flat on his face, but someone will take a chance on him.  Heck, Tim Tebow was a 1st rounder, Cam Newton was a #1 pick, etc., and all of those guys had questions about their ability to be QBs (and yes, I know the character issues were less, at least with regards to Tebow).

Also, Todd McShay doesn't have all that much credibility in my eyes regarding the draft, what with Jevan Snead's career still buried in his backyard.  

Matt Jones

Both he and TP are

• freakish combination of height and speed
• played QB in college
• complete morons

He is not tough. I wouldn't trust TP to go over the middle for a big catch in crunch time .

I bet the Raiders pick him up. If they can give JaMarcus Russell $61 million, there's no reason to believe that Al "the idiot" Davis won't go and get him. I can't believe you forgot JaMarcus.

These days, it's hard to imagine him as an OSU QB too.

What is the real difference between him and Cam Newton?  Is it only accuracy?  Because otherwise the two are almost identical in my eyes, both in terms of athletic ability and character.  

I don't buy it.  If everybody kills people, everybody steals from you, steals from me...everybody can be an NFL quarterback. 

college systems that don't prepare their top kids to go pro. Lot's of kids make the transition from qb to safety or wideout but they do it when they're 17. TP pretty much looks screwed after college too, now.

has never taken hits.

He had a big OL and was instructed to jog out the sideline for 3 yds in Tresselball.

That and is Clarett attitude of entitlement will doom him.

Watch - I predict he will have a laywer, PR agent etc. in a few weeks acting like he is already a NFL player.

A developmental 6'5" WR is what Bellichek would see.  He might be a ginormous idiot, but he doesn't have a drug issue or violent history to outrun -- that we know of -- and that's what trips up a lot of people (ie. Matt Jones).  Put him in a stable NFL franchise and we'll quickly find out what he's made of.

It's hard to imagine Pryor doing any job.

Pryor may suck off the field, but on the field, he's Jay Riemersma with better feet.  He would be a decent TE.

when you're not catching passes, you're expected to block.

I don't see TP blocking very well.  I don't think his heart would be in it.

Unless I am mistaken, markusr is getting it right here. Pryor will get his cup of coffee and his several millions, have his chance to prove he can contribute. We are exulting now, but this is not likely to prove a victory for the people. 

but we all know that's not likely

Unless Pryor grows a pair I don't see him being a good tightend. He would have a ton to learn at WR but as a project he might be worth a flyer?

If the Lions take him I'm rioting.

Hopefully he goes to the Raiders or something.