Dad be maddd
Cliffs: Son appartently skipped 1 on 1 workouts, Dad did not like it
Sounds alot like my dad.
Daddy hijack his sons account to call him out?? That's cold. And highly unlikely.. My $$ on the jealous girlfriend, or friend with the password thinking he's a comedian...... or the butler did it.
Leon McQuay Jr is McQuay III's dad
Good for him wasn't exactly my initial reaction. Calling your own flesh and blood a "coward" in front of the world?
My dad has called me a coward a couple times. All it ever gave me was more and more motivation on the field. Not everybody takes it the same tho..
yeah, some people respond better to that namby pamby new age dont spank your kids and give them a 7th place trophy because everyone is a winner parenting style like jim bob up there
gosh, you're one bad dude. when i feel like airing the punishment of my kids on twitter, facebook, and youtube, I'll come to you for tips.
hell yeah I'm one bad dude, better check yourself fool
"Hey son, how dare you correct my grammar! You better watch out or I'll hit you with my car when you cross State Street!"
get off my lawn and get a haircut you damn hippie
Do you think that talking about how jake long got drafted first overall will help Hoke get Laremy Tunsil when he talks to him? I have always wondered if that was considered tacky to do?
nope, that was too long ago to be relevant you damn whippersnapper, now obey your elders or you'll get the willow branch tonight
There's only one man I've ever called a coward, and that's Brian Doyle Murray.
2/1 someone hacked dad's account or some other explanation.
It seems totally possible that he's talking about some "he" other than his son...
Shit, am I sitting here trying to interpret Tweets AGAIN today?? What has my life become?
Yeah maybe he's tweeting about his other son, Leon McQuay IV, who's attending the opening.
Jesus I fucking hate twitter
So do I, I thought we were breakin’ the twitter addiction.
Seeing as how it's past 10 pm, I think we can make that happen.
Why'd he publish it to the world?
Twitter can eat a fat dick.....yeaaah....actually, I think it was easy-e, not twitter, but it seemed to fit this thread...
is correct. Twitter sucks.
No matter what parenting style he is doing, it should be between his family and not posting to the world how bad his kid is.
That's between him and his family to decide.
bullshit where I come from. The same people saluting McQuay today will come back and kill the messenger when some bullshit emerges about their (insert name of favorite institution here), offer us all some crap little speech about 'keeping things in the family.'
Don't look for rigorous thinking on a football board, even here.
not as bad as the "Forcier Wall of Shame".
I love how if someone had done an interview with his dad and he said the exact same thing no one would give a shit about the source but since it's twitter people freak out.
In the words of Andy Bernard, "That was an overreaction."
is foolishness. It is not wise to shame your son in any public forum. That reproof and/or correction is to be given in private between father and son. Jr. is a fool to shame III on twitter.
why in God's name is a parent challenging his own kid in front of the world?
bLAME IT ON TWITTER!! In all honesty it was a little harsh but hey, the truth is the truth. I agree that he should have been doing the drills. Why go to the opening if you are not going to participate? It is kinda ridiculous and I can't say I would have handled it on twitter but my choice of words would not have been coward, it would have been a complete ass chewing. Kids these days.....Geez. lol
My 2 cents that no one asked for: I'm OK with this. I played football, and a lot of the dads came to practice. If I pulled something like that, my dad would have yelled at me in front of the entire team, worse than the coach. Like someone said above, if this was posted in an interview, either in print or in video, people would just say he's a tough dad.
Kids need to be disciplined, especially kids who aspire to be major college athletes. Obviously McQuay the elder knows what works for his son and what doesn't. Who are we to say what's wrong for him to do? Maybe McQuay III needs a wake up call. Point is, he didn't cross any lines in my opinion.
It would be one thing to call out your kid if he was breaking the law and getting into all sorts of trouble, but to bash him like this for skipping 1 on 1's? I mean come on man.
I understand if you don't agree. But if you want to do anything at the highest level, you need someone to make sure you're doing every right. Watch NBC starting July 27th - you know how many of those people have gotten screamed at, maybe in front of a bunch of people, for doing a lot less than skipping a whole drill? Probably a lot of them, and now they're in the Olympics.
Read your signature - that's the mindset dad McQuay is taking.
but the point isn't that he has a father who pushed him (my friend headed to London certainly did), it's that he's a father purposely trying to humiliate his teenage son on Twitter.
Maybe I'll cross some lines here, but when you have a father trying to humiliate a son publicly (not coach, humiliate) over sports, you have a father with some pretty big issues himself.
How do you know his father's purpose? The father likely knows what will and will not humiliate his son, since he has been his father for 16/17 years at this point, and he knows what his son reacts well to and what he doesn't.
Also - and maybe I had tough coaches and parents growing up, but if you screwed up, you got humiliated. We don't know McQuay's relationship with his father, so we shouldn't judge. This could be very common and now Leon III knows he screwed up and learned from it.
is the one who brought this into the public sphere, so it's certainly our place to pass judgment on any of his actions. If someone had heard this in the McQuay's living room, that's a different story, but his father posted these so the public and the news outlets could read.
As far as getting humiliated, have you ever heard someone called a coward for any reason other than to bring that person down? Being embarrassed in a drill is one thing, everyone sees it happen and most everyone knows that you just got beat, probably badly. Usually when that happened to me, I would either get yelled at for not having correct form or another obvious mistake, or I would get coached on the right move. If, in high school, I had a coach call me a name like "coward", I would have been pretty damn upset.
As far as a motivational tactic, would you be okay with Tim Hardaway Sr. calling THJ a coward on ESPN? How about one of the 2015 recruits? Again, maybe there are different experiences at play here, but that doesn't sound like good parenting to me.
You must have had the most polite coach ever, because all of my coaches in high school called me way worse things than coward, and I'm pretty sure the intent was to humiliate me.
I would be fine with TH calling his son a coward on ESPN if he felt he really screwed up. Like you said, different people have different upbringings, some softer than others. The thing that clashes about your comments is that in the same sentence you admit that there are different experiences at play, and then also assert that this isn't good parenting.
Also - as a parent, I can tell you that good parenting comes in many different ways.
I was more trying to protect myself from calling out anyone's parents. If you had a father do this, I don't want to call him out using the same language I've used as an anonymous guy on the internet commenting on a recruit, he's your father. That said, I do acknowledge that there are several successful styles of parenting, but I can't imagine that acting in the manner of an upset high school ex-girlfriend is a good example to set. If someone asked him what he thought of his son's choice in an interview and he said he was disappointed in his choice, that seems like a reasonable outlet, but to go yourself and post this on a social networking site seems immature at best, and cruel at worst. What happens when Leon McQuay Jr. has too much to drink one night and says some stupid stuff, should his son take to Twitter to air his grievances?
As far as coaching goes, I tend to think of words like coward as much more personal and loaded than catching some swear words or being told how much I sucked at the moment. Maybe I was called a coward at some point and I shrugged it off, but I can tell you that it would piss me off like no other at the moment.
Yeah, agree to disagree I guess. I think the point is that it's supposed to piss you off like no other, so you know now to do it again. Like I said, different strokes.
relationships, but I can't support this guy on any level for his behavior. To me he seems like an overreaching bully who is trying much too hard to live vicariously through his son.
McQuay III is a teenager without much of his own voice against his father, and shouldn't have to deal with his peers, teachers, recruiting contacts reading this shit in their morning newsfeed.
It's one thing to confront him to his face, but to say it over twitter is just immature. I agree with you that if you want your son to be the best you have to push him a bit, but really... twitter?
stop following kids and recruits' dads on twitter.
This is the kind of dad that doesn't have a relationship with their son in 10 years.
I have to question whether this is real or not? If it's a real post from his Dad, then I question the love. No good family man should take an opinion like this public!
I think the posting is BS!!!