McGary draft eligible in 2012 per draftexpress: NBA scouts to attend game this weekend
http://www.draftexpress.com/twitter.php
Johnathon Givony who runs draftexpress has just gotten word that McGary is eligible for the 2012 draft. NBA scouts (who usually are barred from watching high schoolers) will be watching him at the National Prep Showcase this weekend. For those who don't know turns 20 in June of next year and if we were an international prospect we would have been eligible this year as he turned 19 before the draft.
Givony has him as is 33rd overall prospect (only HS senior on the list).
Just to be clear I haven't seen any articles, tweets, or rumors about him considering declaring next year but it's worth keeping an eye on him in case an agent or someone gets in his ear. It's also worth keeping an eye on the NBA negotiations as the owners are making a strong push to make two years mandatory out of high school before being eligible. If the owners get what they want McGary won't be eligible until 2013 at the earliest.
Again, not sounding the alarm. It's just something to keep an eye on.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:20 AM ^
Do they draft players just in case in the NBA then?
November 11th, 2011 at 6:14 AM ^
Say what?
November 11th, 2011 at 6:26 AM ^
.....like we're looking at a rather protracted lockout. I would hate to see someone with McGary's promise go pro and not play if the lockout went that long. I suppose I want him to spend four years at Michigan because that would just be awesome.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:07 AM ^
The 2012 draft looks loaded with all the 1 and dones that decided to stay for fear of the lockout (sullinger, terrance jones, harrison barnes) in addition to this year's class of freshmen.
November 11th, 2011 at 8:08 AM ^
Darius Morris? *bang head on desk in frustration of the Elite 8 caliber team we would/should have had* GUH :(
November 11th, 2011 at 8:57 AM ^
This year's draft class is stronger and Morris potentially wouldn't have been drafted at all had he stayed another year. It may have hurt us now, but it was the right move for him. Plus, it's always good for the program to send a kid to the league. We're going to be OK.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:20 AM ^
While I agree that Morris potentially wouldn't have been drafted due to the strength of next year's draft, since he was not a first round draft pick, he will have to earn his contract once the lockout is lifted. Consequently, if the lockout causes the entire season to be cancelled (which I am not saying will happen, but is a possibility), Darius will be fighting for a job against kids whose last "game day" experience occurred in March of 2012, while his will have been March of 2011. As we all know, there is nothing that compares to game experience, so his lack of recent game experience compared to that of his competitors, puts him at a significant disadvantage.
I am not saying that Darius didn't do what was best for him at the time, but if he knew then that the NBA season could be cancelled in its entirety due to the lockout, I would bet that he would've come back for one more year.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:20 AM ^
Nice assatar.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:49 AM ^
But Darius has yet to play even a second in the NBA and it's quite possible that his first second in the NBA won't be until the 2012-2013 season - the same as all the other guys who saw the impending cluster of NBAPA Union negotiations and stayed in school so they could keep playing basketball.
That being said, I'm not mad at him. I'm disappointed he didn't stay but I am very, very upset with whatever pathetic idiot made him think 1) he was going in the 1st round and 2) the labor negotiations wouldn't be a big deal.
Also, fwiw, I hope the NBA ceases to exist - it's nothing short of a joke compared to it's college counterpart. The players only play when they feel like it and the league is full of prima donnas that hold press conferences to say they are selling out their hometown to go choke in another part of the country.
November 11th, 2011 at 12:08 PM ^
Or Morris, you know, could have actually improved his game during another year in college. Unless thought he was what he was at age 20.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:29 AM ^
I would like to see the NBA's new collective bargaining agreement before I curse the gods.
November 11th, 2011 at 6:38 AM ^
It might be a long time coming after the ruthlessly draconian offer of 50% revenue sharing.
Of course, if you play for teams like Sacremento, Minnesota, Indiana and a few others, that's half of nothing.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:56 AM ^
Why exactly do we even have professional unions for athletes anymore? The owners aren't changing anything about safety and the only thing it's doing is raising the cost of attendance to a point where average Joe can't even afford to go to a game. Make a min salary (300k) a max salary (5M) and a max operating profit intended to keep seat costs down. If you don't like it, well, you can go elsewhere and try to make your own league. Now I'm sure there are tons of reasons why that wouldn't work but I'm just tired of 1)owners acting like the NBA exists becasue of them 2) the players acting like the NBA exists because of them and 3)escalating ticket prices just to feed the egos of the owners and players.
But then again I work in an industry where complaining about how much money my CEO makes will probably get me fired and there are no unions to make sure that I get paid insane amount of money to play a kids game...
November 11th, 2011 at 11:41 AM ^
the NHL has a stipulation that 1 player cannot make more than 20% of the team's overall payroll. note: the NHL also has a total salary cap and floor.
this might be something that would work well in the NBA.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:47 AM ^
The same reason why there's theoretically ANY union- to collectively bargain and effectively match the power of management. Since management can collude under the cloak of the NBA, players unionize in order to emphasize their own strength and uniformity. These guys are also negotiatingfor benefits for their families, (hopefully) planning to maximize their income in the window where they have the best chance of earning in order to retire responsibly, and hedge the power of management.
The NBA does exist because of both the players and management. They need each other, but, consider the fact that no one would tune in to watch management play each other in pickup games. Salaries might be high, but the sky-high ones aren't the rule, and that's what the controlled marketplace of the league is willing to pay top talent. The lockout sucks, but saying "get rid of the Union and impose rules neither side wants" doesn't really accomplish anything. These guys need to make a living while they can so when they no longer have knees, they can still live comfortably.
November 11th, 2011 at 12:43 PM ^
while they can so when they no longer have knees, they can still live comfotably."
Why is that? Leaving aside the fact that football is the only sport with really chronic problems with their retirees health (it certainly exists in basketball, just more rarely), why shouldn't they be fully prepared to work the last 20-30 years of their lives at an actual job? I see this same rationale all the time from the NFL players union ("our average time of service is 4 years"). Who exactly says that a professional athlete should earn enough in 4-15 years to be set for his whole life? That just seems meritless as an argument.
Now, having said that, I don't necessarily disagree with the whole of your argument. I'm a market guy, and the market values the athlete at a high rate, and the union is a part of that. But there is one big difference between the NBA and a free market in any other industry. In no other industry are the individual salaries of employees common knowledge. And in no other industry are an employees work accomplishments also common knowledge. That creates bidding wars that don't exist anywhere else.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:54 PM ^
A "free market" would also entail that the management wouldn't collude to harm competition or artifically depress wages. Because of the size of an NBA roster, I'm more inclined to look at it in terms of a publicly traded company's executives. Everyone knows their salaries/compensation, there's competition to get top executives, and their job security tends to be questionable.
I should have more clearly articulated the point re: income for a lifetime. I certainly don't think that playing in a professional league should exempt you from working after your career finishes, and I'd say that for many athletes that doesn't happen. You often hear about guys running clinics/coaching. However, if you consider the fact that their academic careers have been centered on preparing to play a sport professionally, it's a bit unfair to demand that they concurrently develop career skills competitive with those of us who focused solely on academics/career prep.
Thus, while they may work after they conclude their professional careers, I'd certainly say there's merit to the argument that they should consider their playing time a primary point to aggregate a substantial percentage of their assets, because their earning potential is way higher than it will be for the rest of their careers.
Further, the argument behind health insurance is even easier- even when these guys are working in certain clinic/publicity positions, healthcare is a major expense (especially when your body is broken down due to playing a sport) and it's often not included as a benefit in these jobs.
November 11th, 2011 at 7:23 AM ^
I have heard that any changes re: early eligibility wouldn't affect him because he is coming out of prep school, not high school. Therefore, a two year wait for college students would dilute the talent pool and improve his draft status. This is obviously not good for M. Here's hoping he receives good advice from family and friends and spends at least one year in college.
November 11th, 2011 at 7:30 AM ^
Those of us who have followed his recruiting closely have known that he is eligible for the draft. At this point it seems like a non-issue.
Because of the extra year in prep school — Mitch would’ve graduated high school last spring — he could qualify for the upcoming NBA Draft. Although he’s ruled that out, many analysts expect him to be a one-and-done player. Tim acknowledges that he’s discussed the NBA with his son, but it’s premature at this point. “I think that he would have to have an unbelievable year next year for him to be thinking about going to the NBA, so we’ll have to cross that bridge when we get to it,” Tim said.H/T: www.umhoops.com https://www.michigandaily.com/sports/mitch-mcgary-you-dont-know-through…
November 11th, 2011 at 8:15 AM ^
NBA... NBA... nope, doesn't ring a bell.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:44 AM ^
Haha...of those that I have asked, at least 90% say that they do not miss the NBA at all. Other than missing the crazy dunks on ESPN's Top 10, I wouldn't mind it if the NBA took a year off and re-evaluated the players' outlandish salary structure.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:41 AM ^
Now I actually get to see all those amazing hockey goals. Usually the Top 10 this time of year is 9 dunks (most of which aren't that amazing), and if I'm lucky, one goal that should have been the top highlight.
November 11th, 2011 at 2:09 PM ^
November 11th, 2011 at 8:21 AM ^
Please no Kevin Garnett part 2!!!
With that said, I don't think McGary is a straight to the pro's type kid. I think he's looking forward to at least 1 or 2 years of college. However, I've never had millions thrown in my face on one random day in April or whenever the draft is.
And I think a poster earlier was asking if teams would draft McGary "in case" even if he planned on going to college.
No. This isn't baseball or hockey. You have to formally give up your collegiate status and enter the draft just like you have to in football. Once you sign with an agent...you can go.
Now, what I believe McGary CAN do...is enter the draft, not sign with an agent...and pull his name out before the deadline. That would be very interesting and I could certainly see him doing that to see where he stands. If he got a top 5 grade, he'd leave, anything else, go to college (that part is speculation...I was giving a scenario that many guys have done in the past. For example Morris said "if I get a first round grade, I leave...anything else I come back. He graded out between picks 10-20.)
This is definitely something to watch. This could be a Kevin Garnett part 2 situation (for those that don't know...KG was going to come to Michigan before going straight to the league).
November 11th, 2011 at 8:56 AM ^
Also, I think McGary's parents want him to spend at least some time in college.
November 11th, 2011 at 10:48 AM ^
After reading that article in the Daily about Mitch, I am shocked that we were able to pull him away from Duke. As the article stated, Mitch's dad is a huge Coach K fan, and with Mitch being a people pleaser by nature (also in the article), he had to do something that must have been very tough for him -- choose a college that was not his dad's first choice.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:25 AM ^
MM know's his father will support him in his decision
November 11th, 2011 at 11:04 AM ^
They'd get three free years of hype for these guys and you'd have cross traffic between teams because people have college loyalities along with their NBA loyalties. I watch all the MIchigan guys in the NFL, I'm sure the same would be said for the NBA.
November 11th, 2011 at 11:52 AM ^
The college game would improve dramatically if they adopted the MLB rules. You either go out of high school, or you have to stay in college for three years. Sure the majority of the top 15 or so recruits would skip college every year, but having all the college players staying for three years would raise the talent level to the highest it's been in 20 years.
November 11th, 2011 at 2:12 PM ^
November 11th, 2011 at 12:05 PM ^
Because the NBA players union doesn't want any age limitation past high school? Owners want at least two years post-HS, so the one-and-done is a compromise from the last CBA.
All you need to know is that the NBA players union isn't run by the players at all. It's run by their agents.
November 11th, 2011 at 12:22 PM ^
because of the physical nature of NFL. NBA, you can make an impact straight out of HS. NFL, that will never happen.
November 11th, 2011 at 3:01 PM ^
I am tired of all the fuss about McGary. I am, of course, glad to have him but I am way more excited to see what GRIII and Stauskas can do.
November 11th, 2011 at 5:10 PM ^
This guy is the best player we've recruited in years. Hype is legit.