If they put up a big win here, then they should have some huge momentum moving on. If not, then thsoe three close losses to really good teams start to look like past years, wherein we played as well as any opponent... or as poorly.
If they put up a big win here, then they should have some huge momentum moving on. If not, then thsoe three close losses to really good teams start to look like past years, wherein we played as well as any opponent... or as poorly.
Assembly Hall . . . shudder. This place has been a house of horrors for us. We've got some demons to exorcise.
Housh dropped that pass in the Ravens/Steelers game. That's gonna wrap up just in time.
I didn't know David Merritt did the radio broadcast. Seems like he has done pretty well for himself.
Link to a free stream (non torrent) anyone?
did u have to sign up to pay for that stream torrent thing?
That site is fake. ST expires every year and until the '11 update you have to trick it to thinking it's 2010. You can do this by just changing the clock on your computer when you open it.
Jim Jackson did the OSU game but your sentiment still applies.
I don't have a good feeling about this one. Saturday night in Assembly Hall in years gone by would be a loss. We will see how these frosh do.
I hate these guys.
giving up boards like always.
They are playing man, near as I can tell.
in 1-3-1. Clearly switching to man hasn't helped our rebounding though.
If Morgan can hit that shot, he will be a very good college player on offense.
The IU crowd cheering like they just won the NCAA tournament after every basket gets annoying pretty fast.
Why? That's what should happen at basketball games. I think it's normal.
I just think it's a little over the top to be doing it for the first bucket of a game, and every basket within the first 5 minutes, especially when the game featues two unranked opponents.
Bummer. I like it - - - It's called "fandom." You wouldn't happen to be one of those "down in front" alums would you?!?!
Beilein needs to scream at these kids and tell them to rebound better. This is ridiculous on defense.
just the right amount of accent. Also Indiana sucks and their jerseys look like a Middle School effort. It is 2011, try something different for god's sake.
if you can't rebound
Hardaway Jr. is going to be a stud.
He is very attractive.
Wow do we look flat.
and I'll say it again... Douglass just hasn't progressed like I thought he might have after his freshman season
Why do our players look terrified?
Indiana is not a good team at all. We should be dominating this game.
Dominate is a strong word but we have to be better than this. We look scared and flat. Missing shots I can accept but getting outhustled and throwing the ball around like a hot potato is really frustrating.
guys look like they didn't prep for this game
We look tentative and disorganized.
I like that our team always adjusts strong in the second half, especially against tough competition, but it would be more encouraging if we just started a game strong for once too.
With 8 min in the 1st, this is fucking ugly. We have played so well against some top-flight teams, losing nailbiters, and here we are playing a shitty Indiana team and just stinking up the joint.
C'mon Blue, get it together.
O big ten road games you never come easy.
but I don't think you can win consistently in the big ten playing this style of offense.
Just stop watching our basketball team. It is obvious you don't like anything about them. You said the exact same thing about our offense when we were taking Kansas into overtime. But I guess you are right....if it can only hang with the top teams in the nation, why would we think it could win the B10?
and they are blowing us out. We play decent at home, but this team will be lucky to win more than 6 games in the Big Ten. Good thing Nebraska joins next year that should help.
How does JB get a vote of confidence from DB? He has a ton of talent in his back yard that he doesn't/can't recruit (sans CB), he's terrible in conference, his team is young. Damn that sounds familiar except for the having a ton of talent in your backyard part. Oh yeah, he is also in his fourth year.
Playing a style of offense brought over by a former WVU coach that just doesn't cut it in the B1G Ten?
Wow...some peeps really did not like this comment! The boards are particularly sensitive today!
+1 for making a comment that pretty much summarizes how many people feel about the whole WVU to UM coaching transition.
Live and Die by the 3.
Agreed. We should go to McLimans and Morgan more because they are amazing on the blocks.
How is this the same team who played such good defense against Kansas?
To be honest, I thought that it was more a lack of execution on Kansas' part rather than our good defense.
with our inability to start strong in ANY game practically this year...
This IU team is NOT good and we are making them look like Kansas.
We have practically already put ourselves out of reach in this game in the first half with that And 1...
It doesn't help that IU is also getting every bounce/break/roll/call/etc.
We are getting fucking blown out now by the same shitty Indiana team. What the fuck? Pull it together guys. I hate this inconsistency.
for what seems like the past 5 games, we should start turning it over and bombing ugly 3's right abouuuuuuut.... now.
Right now we look like an underclassman-dominated team on the road. Time to grow up.
I would just like to add that Morgan is absolutely horrendous. We need a big man.
put money on Indiana
Our offense looks like Greg Robinson is coaching them
I haven't been watching at all, which apparently is a good thing. Any particular reason we have 11 points right now? Just general suck?
to create opportunities late in the clock seems to mirror the reliance on Harris to create late in the clock from last year.
That is a broad brush, but in this offense, I think Morris dribbles too much. If this were more like a drive and kick offense, I could definitely see Morris doing that; however, the O is quick reversals, back cuts and more reversals. Spacing is good, which allows Morris to dribble more than he ought, but their cuts and screens off the cuts is what is vexing me right now.
Their cuts serve no purpose except when they back cut off of overplays. Defenses don't really have to deny passes to our guys or overplay because when one of our guys gets the ball, other teams can keep them in front of them without the need for help.
The book is pretty easy on Michigan right now. It will get better and the book won't be as easy to read
that is all.
Why can't we put Horford out there with McLimans or Morgan against bigger teams? We always have 4 sprites out there with just our 1 "big". Pathetic.
EDIT: I'm sorry I'm so fucking negative right now... it is just killing me to watch this horrible basketball for what seems like forever. Even when we are in "close" games it seems like we don't play very well.
That was a shitty fucking call on that D Morris charge. Good lord. WTF.
Got a Netflix DVD of The Pacific sitting here. Gonna kick that off sooner than expected.
at allowing opponent FT's and we have 0, because we settle for off balance jumpers and play offense 35 feet from the basket.
Is there a reason why beilein pulled Hardaway Jr. and sat him? Is there a reason why mclimans is in? Also, the lineup consisting of Morris, Douglass, Vogrich, Novak, and one of the 3 bigs is never going to work, period.
About a thousand of them
My blood pressure needs a break. To the NFL game we go.
not the best looking students
I can't begin to tell you how irritated I get when Morris over dribbles. Who the hell is going to go for his shoulder fake to the left. The whole world knows he is going to his right.
for some reason this UM makes this place like Cameron Indoor...IU sucks guys!!! come on!!
our offense is making one of the worst defeneses in the big ten look really good.
... because we are sucking it up.
Poor execution, bad shots, turnovers, no rebounds, pretty much everything.
His recruiting big men is just fine. A little bit of bad luck....combined with us being extremely young and you have a bad presence down low.
I don't know if most of the cuts are supposed to be flex cuts or simply fill cuts, but I think it's fairly easy to play man against this offense simply because most of the cuts aren't threatening.
WVU's offense was predicated on a ton of back cuts and flex cuts; they also had physical players who could shoot and get to where they wanted on the floor off the ball.
This really is WVU 'lite' and until Michigan gets more players who can go inside as well as be a threat on the outside, you're going to see what seems like 20 passes per possession that don't take a player closer to the basket or serve a purpose other than to simply reverse the ball to set up the next cut to the top of key.
Michigan vs Indiana/ Ed Hightower
is beyond annoying
I feel like I'm watching a completely different game than this guy. One of the things I hate about BTN is they get obviously biased commentators to announce the games. We get it; you were undefeated...
We are on pace to score like 30 points, against Indiana. You boys better step it up in the second half!
I love how the announcer just pronounced making like 1 free throw a "mini run."
Why are we standing around so much? There should be more movement away from the ball.
Isn't that kinda what we've done the past several years? Play 30 feet from the hoop, go one-on-one, and play perimeter ball???
Morris can't fu*king buy a basket! Time to turn on the NFL
i am notthe only one getting upset I really expected much better play.
Horrible foul calls, no offense, Indiana hitting all their shots, no rebounds and thank god this half is over.
Don't blame the refs. This game has been evenly called and UM has gotten some breaks. Blame Belein and the players. They are mentally not in this game.
at 6:48 in the 2nd half:
UM: 15 fouls
IU: 14 fouls
Pretty evenly called game...
they haven't helped. Indiana is playing aggressive defense on Morris and not getting called for the bumps and hand checking but Smotrycz has got 3 bump fouls. Not the refs fault they can't hit a jumper but its got to be effecting how they're playing defense.
How is Tom Crean so tan?
Herbstreit spray tan... available only at wal-mart.
I am sure he is a nice guy... but this speaks to the problem with this team. He is not a big ten caliber player. Beilein's recruiting has lacked any post players and what do we have signed for next year and the year after ... 3 more guards.
He played because we're in serious foul trouble. He's not normally a member of the rotation.
Why does everyone say he hasn't recruited any post players? Morgan is going to be pretty good after, you know, his redshirt fucking freshman year, Smotrycz is going to be pretty good after, you know, his fucking true freshman year, and Benzig has played really well over seas. This shit needs to stop.
he is a wing/small forward. Just because he is 6-8 does not make him a post player. I will give you Morgan, but that's exactly 1 guy in 5 recruiting classes counting next year.
You have apparently forgotten about Benzig and Cronin. For someone who has followed Michigan basketball for so long, I would think you would know about those 2. I think Beilein is trying not to get any big men though. I hear he told Amir Williams to go fuck himself because he wouldn't fit in at Michigan. I agree though, all of our guys should be dominating as redshirt freshmen.
I also hear that true freshmen like Smotryz are not allowed to put on any weight. He will stay exactly like he is for his 4 years here.
was a project at best, and he didn't land benzing, so really there is nothing to talk about as far as he goes. It's all about who you bring in.
Worst case scenario certainly played out. It all starts with being unable to match IU intensity. I see no way IU lets this one slip away.
That might have been the worst half of basketball I have ever watched. Ever.
The Duke game under Ellerbe where we fell behind 34-2 was worse. But this is not much better.
Duke scored on 16 of their first 18 possessions, it was like a clinic.
Duke was good. Indiana is 9-8 overall and 0-4 the Big Ten. Good thing we loaded up on cupcakes early or this team would have a hard time getting to the teens in wins. This is JBs fourth year isn't it? Please recruit Detroit. One player in four years just doesn't cut it with all the talent there.
Pretty sure my daughter's 1st grade game at 7:00 AM this morning was better than this.
We did not weather that intensity. For god's sake that was awful. I need whiskey. Beilein needs whiskey. Shit, our players probably need whiskey but they're not old enough.
whiskey but I will head to the beer fridge.
Yes, I'm on the whiskey all you want bandwagon for the rest of the night.
Wow we are getting dominated. The first 10 minutes though EVERY shot that Indiana missed took a huge bounce and bounced right out back to them. But still ...we shouldn't be down this much at half to this team.
watching another half of this might cause me to throw a cat or something.
know what is worse our plat or quinn buckner.
always choose hightower
I would definitely take Perry the Platypus over Buckner.
I had all but forgotten about Buckner. I'm half-listening to the commentary and thinking who is this irritant, then it dawns on me. Still completely in the bag for IU--and I don't think that's true of any of the other BTN analysts and their schools--and much of his critique of Mich was, in reality, a critique of Beilein's system--though I'm not sure he kinows what it is. I think even Bobby has evolved more than Buckner, plus Bobby is a vastly superior analyst--dickishness aside.
offense. This is not the first time he has done this. Everyone stands around on offense and watches him dripple the ball for 20 seconds.
but some of this is on the other players as well.
more pick n rolls with hardaway. I like his ability to pull up and hit a jumper.
A2, unfortunately, that is not on B's play calling card. The 2 man game would be tough to defend especially with a shooter setting the screen to either roll or pop out.
I didn't know we were playing Duke tonight I though Indiana was scheduled!?
But seriously, we are making them look like a top ten team.
been a couple guys inside wide open that we have missed
actually rooting for Indiana?
caught that when he made the and 1 comment
if someone has something against what I am saying then come out and say it, don't just blanket neg every post
he's one of the great Hoosiers in IU history. Anyway, Michigan has not given him one thing to talk about.
David Brandon seems to genuinely adore Jim Beilein. I wonder what he's seeing. This is an awful game.
to the administrations perception of the role of MBB in the grand scheme of things.
off the record.
No surprise, Brandon thinks (as most do) that college basketball recruiting is generally dirty. As Brian Cook would say, as dirty as a dirt sandwich with extra dirt. And I think that Brandon just loves the notion that Beilein is a national paragon of cleanlines. And it sort of ends there.
john calipari. We shouldn't be afraid to hire a top notch coach just because of what happened 14 years ago.
why are you getting negged?
is on a crusade against me.
this is becoming hard to watch
.....you're going to keep fouling people on inbound passes. Not only is it difficult to win, but you give Indiana a lot of practice making inbound passes.
this game is over.
.....that will be right after this commercial break, possibly during the last commercial in this break. Come on, Blue, somebody start nailing some threes......
Indiana, when making a cut, looks for the ball and goes hard toward the basket. On cuts off the ball for Blue, they rarely look for the ball or cut to the basket. They just go to spots to maintain floor balance. So, they have that going for them.
Defensive intensity is picking up...
No help, pretty sad.
in first halves this year? I'm just asking now because it hasn't gotten much better.
periods with out scoring are to hard to overcome but and we seem to do this every game.
DId Novak really try to trip that guy?
I can't even handle watching this right now. This insane homer announcer is pusing me over the edge.
This is what year 4 of the Beilein era brings???
This is also an IU team that has lost SIX straight games.
After this game Michigan will be 11-7.
After this game their losses will have come against*:
Looking at this team before the season, did ANYONE expect them to be as good as a ranked team? No. That considered, the only losses anyone should even get a little upset about are UTEP and Indiana.
*rankings as of this week. Duke lost, so these will change.
"Looking at this team before the season, did ANYONE expect them to be as good as a ranked team? No."
This sentence is why I am frustrated. I would have thought in year four of any coach at an institution like Michigan, fans would have expected a ranked team.
In the 2005-2006 season Michigan was ranked 20th. This was the first time they had been ranked since 8 years before that. Clearly this is an elite program and its totally Beilein's fault that we can't expect to be ranked.
I guess I forgot the sarcasm tag on this one...
That's right we haven't beaten anybody. Our best win is Clemson or PSU who we struggled to beat at home. IU is one of the worst teams in the Big Ten and they kicked our a**. I know the team is young, but that isn't necessarily a deterrent in hoops.
It was interesting when they were talking about JB working with Morgan on the 17 foot jumper. I have two issues with this- when he's on the floor he's generally our only post threat so lets move him away from the basket (0 rebounds the first ten minutes) and maybe JB should spend time working with the guys launching the threes we shoot a ton of them and make very few.
shot, everybody heads back down court to play defense and no one goes to the boards
Killing Michigan off the dribble in their man to man.
but man to man is predicated on help, too. If the help isn't there (see #4 weave thru 3 guys and slam it with no one around him), it's going to be tough.
Have to have more length to play the 1-3-1 well. Michigan doesn't have it.
some guys look disinterested
I'm so depressed... ugh.
try whiskey or beer that may help.
First there is a blatant travel on the "power hop" then the next possesion the guy takes 2 steps. Call an effing travel!
Has turned into watching GB-ATL, flicking to this.
P.S. Matty Ice just threw a godawful pick 6 to end the 1st half
thought they would never call it
If you are at this game, its your Fandom Endurance III badge, basketball edition.
Dave Brandon saying he fully supported the direction the program was going and looked forward to where beilein would take the program in the future, right?
Glick Field House + Oosterbaan + 2 outdoor practice fields > having to practice in the shit-hole that is Crisler. How do you recruit to that when MSU is just down the road repping a very nice practice facility? Hopefully the new player develpment center helps this out. I say give him a few years with the new facilities and then evaluate him.
I would love to see an actual fast break run the right way with players filling appropriate lanes and going to the rim instead of hanging back for three pointers. When you are down 20, 2 points work just as well as 3. Arghhhh!!!!!!!
Guys, it's okay to take a shot inside the arc.
3 shots in the possession, all three's, all clankers with open space to the hoop.
But, 2 offensive rebounds and lots of gritty play.
If nothing else, this game is unfolding very similarly to the game here two years ago, in which we rallied and won in OT.
Time for Tim Hardaway to take ova
is the one that sounds nervous.... all the giddy laughing like a school girl has been replaced with nervous announcing.
That's what happens when you don't settle for 3's!
I turned on the tv and we are catching up. Not moving from this couch
is much better in transition, not in the half court. I think with this group they should run a ton more than they do. They have the legs and athleticism.
it's time to complete the end of the WVU coaches. Our B ball team isn't cutting it. Let's give him the ax like RR and be done with it. Time for another coaching search DB
I like to overreact too! ANGAR!
Can we retire "ANGAR"? It's annoying.
I guess that's true. I'll do my best to phase it out of my vocabulary, but it is a good substitute for "derp" every once in a while...
Our hoops team really isn't getting it done. It's disappointing. We need to see how the rest of the year shakes out before drawing conclusions, however.
you're wrong. Beilein is a good coach. I don't know why they don't run a few more sets on offense.
Or rebounding, etc. When you're streaky it is tough to watch sometimes.
with yet another night to forget
Best year was his Fr year. Just needs to be a spot up in the corner or wing. He can shoot off screens but he is a spot up shooter.
No, he's easily having his best season this year. Unfortunately, he's been in a slump over the past week or so.
On stats, it's nearly a push. I basing my comment more on expectations than data. He is up a point on avg but down in assist -turnover ration (lowest of the three yrs). He is up in FG% from 2 and 3, so that is good.
I just thought he'd provide a bit more than he has.
but whatever, just keep neggin me .... loving it.
Now I see why a lot of opposing schools hate us. We really are that arrogant. So many people think our bball team should be the shit and gets pissed when we don't win, but not many people are willing to look into why we aren't winning. I know I may be preaching to the choir a bit here since a lot of people here are willing to be logical, but I just need to vent.
Our basketball facilities blow hard. Like a lot, but not many people are willing to acknowledge this. Most people just bitch about Beilein not getting it done and just assume that our BBall has good facilites because we are Michigan and have the best everything...Before the player development center was being built, our facilites couldn't hold a candle to MSU's. So how the hell is Beilein supposed to recruit in-state when MSU's facilities are 10x nicer?
I need a drink.
This is a big part of it. Talked a while ago to a girl that was being recruited by MSU (not for basketball), and they took her on a tour of everything and she said it's just absurd how nice everything is.
It's really unfortunate how neglected our bball facilities have been, but it just wasn't a focus there for a while. Once the player development center is done and we get some much needed improvements to Crisler I think it will be a lot easier to bring in some top talent.
And let's not forget AGAIN that this team is insanely young, and there are a couple of great players coming in again next year.
I dont think anyone expects us to compete with MSU right now. However, we shouldn't be one of the worst teams in the big ten in year 4 under JB.
By that last Big Ten title in 1986.
like forever ago
I don't think Beilein should be fired, but if people need to vent about today, let them vent. This is a bad, bad performance - the worst of the season.
NCAA hopes lost, NIT hopes fading, I just hope we can pull off some big wins and go for it all next year, these guys just need more experiance, in two years we could be really good, even without Zack and Stu.
Right, because the season is over and there's no way they could, you know, play well... It's not like they competed down to the wire with three undefeated teams or anything. We might as well board up Crisler until next year.
Everyone is frustrated. But do you really think this team will win more than 6 big ten games?
I don't know, but the instantaneous ditching of the entire season because of one game really grinds my gears. It happens every single time we lose, and while things aren't looking great for an NCAA tourney bid right now there are all kinds of people who have already decided that the team sucks and we should fire Beilein.
I get it. I haven't really liked the Beilein hire from the get-go, but I understand people that would like to see him have more time, and he does deserve at least 5 years. I think the overriding feeling of people that follow basketball more than catching an occasional game here and there, is that we have been in this rut, save the 08-09 season for quite a while, and we don't seem to be climbing out of it. It's frustrating, people overreact.
We legitimately aren't going to finish better than 6-9th in the conference. The B1G is really good this year, and we are young. Why we're young is another question, but it is what it is.
Its not like 4 of their 7 losses have come against top 10 teams or anything.
I haven't watched a Michigan basketball game after Jan.15 in 10-15 years.Why bother, this program will never be any good.
The Fab Five was young and talented, but also had coaching. We are young and talented,but the coaching is not there. We play to the competition we are playing. That is what is not acceptable
Did you just compare our current team to the Fab 5?
Ok. That's because Belein hasn't exactly locked down top talent. I'm obviously not saying he should be capable of brining in talent like the fab five, but he's missed out on some talented players, which is huge in basketball.
Fab Five = 4 of the 5 played in the NBA
This Five = one may play professionally if he develops a consistent jumper
Steve Fisher's main job was to make sure their shorts weren't too baggy.
Steve Fisher is a very good coach. (One would think that his having SDSU ranked in the top 10 would have made that obvious.) His teams were always very strong defensively, especially in the post.
Can I take his record of 11-18 in 04-05 and say it's obvious he's not a good coach?
I didn't say he wasn't a good coach. I said his main job was to keep their shorts up.
One would think that, wouldn't they?
The Fab Five couldn't win at Assembly Hall either:
The team's performance tonight was disappointing, but Michigan almost never wins at Indiana. I think they have two wins there in the last 20 years.
but this IU team ain't anything like those IU teams. And Assembly Hall--with the refs in IU's, er Bobby's back pockets--isn't Assembly Hall anymore--that place would now be called the Kohl Center--where UW gets the exaggerated home court advantage.
We are who we are--we'll compete in a few games we probably shouldn't--and we'll look dreadful at times against teams we should beat. And we won't really have any true idea of where we are as a program when the season ends. But it looks like Beilein has a pretty long leash.
He's not cutting it. Yes we are young, but come on he is not the answer
It's tough to know what the answer is when there's been no question asked.
Strangely enough, Saturday nights channel my inner Plato.
you just fathomed the interconnectedness of everything
as RR. What has he done to think this is ever going to be a good program?Or even average? How 'bout the coach from San Diego State? I hear he's pretty good.
Normally I would neg you for this but it's tough to overreact in the immediate aftermath of that level of suck. I expect you to take it back some time this week.
Is anyone else concerned with the attitude that Morris is showing? I feel like he never looks at Beilein when he is coaching him and is playing pretty chippy tonight. I can't tell if he is just an emotional guy or what but I definitely do not want another situation where our best player has an attitude problem and is always at ends with the coach.
Don't mind it at all, furthermore I believe some of our other players need to show some more emotion out there. Plus they were losing and he was upset by that.
I appreciate that Morris' play in Big Ten play has been more forced and that he may be trying to establish his bona fides with the elite guards. But why focus on him and let the other players skate? Douglas can't hit anything including free throws. And some of what Morris is doing and overdoing can probably be attributed to the inability of the others to do what they were doing against lesser competition.
I'm starting to feel as if the Morris is Manny all over again--hustling on the court but often in the doghouse. Could it be that Beilein has trouble coaching his city players or at least his "stars"? I hope it's just a coincidence. Don't see Smotrycz sitting when he isn't being aggressive--which is most of the time. I just don't see Izzo having similar problems with players like Manny and Morris.
Have you noticed we never score double digits by midway through the first half. Our talent is better than that. I sick of being a laughing stock of the Big Ten in Bball. We can do better
We scored 12 within the first couple minutes of the game against OSU.
Not even a game against the worst in the Big Ten. Enough is enough.
1st half: 15 points
2nd half: 46 points
Think of how many times we have tripled our first half scoring in the 2nd.
Big Ten basketball is absolutely awful.
Losing two close games in a row to highly ranked teams and then have a let down in the next game, especially when you have a young team on the road, is not unheard of.
But to lose to a bad Indiana team the way we did is very disconcerting.
IU made it look easy and dominated us in every phase of the game.
Our lack of o&d rebounding is troubling. Add to that, this offense of dribble around until there's 10 seconds left on the shot clock and then force a bad three (that usually misses and generally doesn't get rebounded) is eerily reminiscent of our bad Amaker teams.
Here's the remaining schedule:
|Tue, Jan 18||at Northwestern|
|Sat, Jan 22||Minnesota|
|Thu, Jan 27||at (24) Michigan State|
|Sun, Jan 30||Iowa|
|Thu, Feb 3||at (2) Ohio State|
|Sun, Feb 6||at Penn State|
|Wed, Feb 9||Northwestern|
|Sat, Feb 12||Indiana|
|Wed, Feb 16||at (16) Illinois|
|Sat, Feb 19||at Iowa|
|Wed, Feb 23||(20) Wisconsin|
|Sat, Feb 26||at Minnesota|
|Sat, Mar 5||(24) Michigan State|
Things are not looking good with seven more road games plus Wisconsin and MSU at home.
I'll admit things could change but the uninspired way we played tonight and the strength of our remaining opponents does not have me feeling very confident at the moment.
I would just like to see improvement in o/d rebounding and some semblence of an offense that doesn't have to force bad shots at the end of the shot clock.
But, I think that might be just wishful thinking. Finishing anywhere from 6-9 in the big ten is possible. We really needed to get a win on the road here.
we'll be on the lower end of that 6-9 place finish.
...has played two lousy games in a row so far this year. Next game is NU...will be tough, but winnable with the kind of effort shown against Kansas and OSU.
After two performances against Kansas and OSU that made me think something could be with this team they go out and do this......A loss is one thing, but to lose like this is unacceptable.