Well that was a quick change.
MBB: UM vs. Penn State Open Thread.
Trey Burke Y U NO have respect for PSU ankles?
Just logged on to say WOW Trey Burke that was a pretty sick move! Also shows the unselfishness letting Hardaway get the jam!
I'm not sure I like Burke giving up that dunk to Timmay... doesn't he know he needs the points for player of the year?
Why cant we start the game like this?
I blame Beilein. He's such a kind, thoughtful guy with the utmost respect for the kids on the opposing team, he wants to at least give them a half of competitive basketball.
Hey yo, glad to see we finally woke the frack up!
TREY BURKE IS A BAD, BAD MAN
Blow it open, boys.
Refs bail PSU player out.
da fuq. Was that really a foul?
That dunk would have counted.
we don't get fouls called for us and get ticky tacky fouls called against us, constantly
I thought the announcer said Burke's vertical jump was 4 inches, not that he improved it 4 inches, hahaha.
I like that spurt, but man it's been a while since we saw a full 40 minutes of annihilation. Every game's been a grind since early January.
Double team doesn't seem to be doing much but giving them open 3s.
At this point, why don't we just stop doing it? Why can't we let them just take a contested lay-up as opposed to the open 3s?
That is such bad defensive rotation. Damn it.
i hate it when the other team hits 3 pointers
byproduct of getting wide open looks,that's on us
STOP DOUBLE TEAMING THE BALL HANDLER. IT DOESNT WORK. EVER.
They're not doing it correctly. That's the problem.
(FTR: Since someone has a personal vendetta against me or something, I didn't neg you.).
I know, and until McGary learns to do it, he shouldn't be hedging. It's killing us.
Agreed. I think I remember in the IU game us going to zone when McGary came in.
I would assume the game plan for now is to keep trying to get McGary better - trial by fire. However, come MSU and IU, I wouldn't be surprised to see them abandon it for a 2-3 when MM comes in.
I hope he can get better though, because going to a zone against those teams is a gamble.
"What does Michigan need to do to get to that 1 line"
Probably be up by more than 6 at 8-18 (0-14) Penn State. It's a start.
Can't seem to deliver the knockout blow. Letting them right back into the game.
McGary is hedging too late which is causing the on-ball defender to have to chase longer, leading to more help and late rotations.
If he gets out a half second earlier, I think many of our problems are solved.
Both are chasing the ball to the other side of the court. This is the worse I've seen them execute the hedge
"Michigan, Indiana! What do they need to get that 1 line??!?!?!??"
Argle bargle. Sad thing is that I fully expect PSU to cut it to 4 off this timeout
Terrible this half. Bad angles and late.
McGary just can't hedge the damn ball. Ugh
Agree Gonzaga would have a ton more losses of they were in the Big ten.
oh so THAT'S what it looks like when our 3's go in
Big shots right there!
God, McGary is just too slow right now.
Horford looked much better on that hedge. I'll live with them taking contested long twos.
Definitely a foul on Stauskas and/or Horford there, but ah well.
He's crying blood
Penn State just pulled a Michigan. Leaving a guy open for the 3. But I'll take it.
HEY LETS REVIEW EVERY FUCKING ELBOW
No kidding. This is a joke
It's nitpicking, but Horford should dunk that. Don't throw it up and leave it to chance.
I see too many misses or blocks when they could just go strong and dunk it.
That actually looks like an offensive foul on the guy who is bleeding...
Edit: On replay, meh. It's marginal. A blocking foul at worst.
Played in tens of thousands of games.
I call bullshit.
Shhhh, don't give away the practice of "blading" in pro wrestling!
Wow it wasnt a flagrant? No way, never wouldve guessed!
reponding well to being benched vs Illinois for most of 2nd half,playing well tonite
Hitting his elbow with your face.
WAS THAT NOT A FOUL
LOL, what was mitch doing there?
Wow, 3-5 of us under the hoop and the one Penn State player gets the rebound. That gets old on the very first time.
Jesus, it took a weird bounce that went straight to the baseline. We can't get every rebound. They've missed some crazy shots with weird bounces. It's alright.
I know we won't get every rebound, in fact, rebounding is a huge weakness on this team. Did I ever say it wasn't alright? No. I understand we will miss some, but thank you kindly for pointing it out. Also, I stopped going by Jesus awhile ago.
Lots of rebounds for Nik tonight. I like it
getting rest? reinjured ankle?
You can hear them?!
So... breathing on a Nittany Lion is a foul.
gets hammered and no call and again we get called for a ballerina foul
That was one of those "no ball" blocks you so often see
Why can I hear individual Penn State fans yelling on my TV? It's annoying.
Will be a rich man next year...
Morgan our only big who goes up strong
Man, I've read a million comments from earlier in the year about how soft Morgan goes up and can't finish.
Did I just hear a fan say "don't take that shit ref!"?
and no foul, hmm ok ref
He better not get himself T'd up complaining that call.
Why don't we get home calls at Crisler like everyone else gets? Beilein too tame and quiet
This has been my biggest criticism of coach B. Wish he got in the face of the refs a bit more, not to the level of izzo, but more than he currently does.
These refs are so bad
Why is it that any contact in the lane is automatically a block or charge? Refs need to understand that it is possible to just not blow the whistle when someone drives.
Michigan just can't win by more than the Kenpom. They refuse to.
Ugh... yeah JMo, you were late. Glad to see someone attempt to take a charge though.
He just jumped into hardaway.
don't do that shit
That should not be a shooting foul. There was zero attempt to shoot the ball.
Agreed. If I was a ref and saw that I wouldn't call anything. I'd explain to the shooter that he in no way tried to make an offensive play/shot in what he did and the defender even went around him. Jumping into somebody who is over/around you without putting effort into a shot should be a no-call.
i thought it had to be a "shooting motion" he was facing sideways? what a joke
Jeez, put this game away. PSU is gonna claw back within 6 soon.
The NCAA needs to get rid of guys jumping forward into a man in the air on a 3 like the NBA did. It's a bush league move, almost cost IU the MSU game.
Can we just put these guys away please
Boy, GRIII can't buy a call inside.
Holy hops Gr3
These fouls are laughable. The fix is in.
BUT FILTHY PUT BACK BY GRIII
GR360 eats your zone for breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
It's annoying watching Michigan not blow this team out yet comforted in knowing that they'll still win by a decent enough margin (knock on wood).
awful decision trey
It's hard to play defense when the refs won't let you touch anyone.
Start to pull away.
We are not. That doesn't seem right
my thefirstrow.eu stream just went to the St. John's game, can I commit a felony?
The first row only provided me with one link and the VIPbox was being laggy for me, but it works great now.
road games are frustrating. these calls are hard to deal with
No, our defense is hard to deal with. We're going to score a good amount ut allowing Penn St. to get to 70+ is not good.
Still just gloating and lazy defense after every made basket - SEE
Would love to see this officiating crew call these fouls against OSU
Summation of reffing last 4 possessions...
1. Morgan block call - Good
2. Robinson no call - Bad
3. White guy "shooting" a 3 - Bad
Hey, that's .333, that ain't bad.
Can we please get one stop?
HOLY SHIT LETS CALL EVRYTHING A FOUL
Ref = atrocious
You will be called for a foul on first contact. Feel free to mug people in blue
Penn State's going to set a season record for free throws.
And, of course hit 86% of them, because, hey, they're playing us.
These refs are calling an incredible number of fouls on us. Stop with the ticky tac calls
Wow, really? Terrible call, again.
This type of officiating just ruins games.
Me of the Ohio game from last years tournament. We make everyone look great!
They wouldn't get bailed out by the refs and we could get this damn game over quickly.
are quick with the whistle for Penn St.
That's a bit of an understatement.
15-point lead and then go into possum mode. It's now 7.
Has PSU out scored anyone by 8 points over any stretch this year? They are so weak and we cannot put them away.
This game seems to be a counterargument to the idea that "home cooking" comes from officials letting the home crowd influence them. There is no crowd at this game and still PSU is getting a favorable whistle.
Stauskas is only a couple rebounds from a double-double.
Players can drive without a charge or foul committed, perhaps someone should pull them aside and inform them?
Right - lets get one freeking stop. Christ - well go no where in the state and creen st games with this effort on defense. Take one charge, block one shot
Hometown officiating is annoying
Is there any reason why the refs are letting contact go uncalled when PSU is on defense, while constantly blowing the whistle on U of M when we do the exact same thing the Lions had done on the other end?
Home court officiating my friend
We're going to give up 80!!
Of course Marshall crushes another 3. We make everyone look awesome.
Guys. There are fouls being committed. This isn't a home-cooking thing. It's the fact that this Michigan team is mediocre at defense and it shows.
It's not an either/or thing. We're playing bad defense but also getting nickel-and-dimed on a lot of touch fouls.
Is this a joke. Every team is cash
finally we get a call. These fans are complete idiots.
Just go away
This game is really dumb
First to 90 wins
Penn State is about to drop 80 on us. Embarassing.
PSU is 0-14
our 3-point defense is ridiculous, in a bad sense
OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE
At least the bad officiating has a statistical basis. You have the most fouly team in the league versus the least and suddenly they flip?
Yeah, but Michigan is not going inside at all, so we're not even giving the refs a chance to keep it even.
By making two-thirds of your twos. Keep plugging.
and is it just me or does Stauskas make terrible, weak, telegraphed passes?
Shit we stink
Thing is, that 3 wasn't really uncontested or anything.
Nik Stauskus I swear to God...
Stauskas with ANOTHER turnover.
Penn State sucks. Stop letting them be in this game. We just blew a double digit lead to Penn State
Not playing it well.
Just my simple observation.
FUCKING fuck fuck!!!!
15 point lead down to 3.
5th TO tonight. Man, he is hurting us as much as he is helping.
Seriously, do we make it out of the first round of the tournament? I don't think we beat Purdue next week, that's for sure.
Didn't we just have a double digit lead? What the hell is gong on?
For a different outcome for the upcoming MSU and Indy games. Theres no way the team out there now can beat those teams and Stauskas switches to "moron" mode in tight games.
Our defense is garbage. Seriously, if we don't make some improvements in the next few weeks I don't see us making it past the 1st weekend in the NCAAs.
Oh that's right, it's our bigs that we send to line. Lovely.
Morgan was held.
No way this team beats MSU. They will get embarrassed again.
was not Stauskas' fault as much as it was GrIII and Hardaway standing around during that pick and roll right next to eachother... and a bad pass
I hate the 'bull-sh*t' chant. Even when Michigan does it. You sound like idiot 100% of the time
Games like these are why I fear we will exit the tournament early.
Good lord this defense isn't working.
I swear to fucking god.
We are tied with Penn State
What the hell is going on
Just fucking terrible. HOW DO YOU LEAVE HIM WIDE OPEN!
What a pathetic effort from this team tonight. Absolutely pathetic.
Games like these are why I fear we will exit the tournament early.
Lets try Caris in the starting lineup. Why not???
This fucking team...
wow, Stauskas has hit some threes tonight, which is an encouraging sign - hoping his shooting will get back on track....
... but he has had some very terrible passes. I've seen some aggressive defense and fouls by him, which is good, but some poor defensive plays as well.
That TO plus weak defensive swipe was poor-poor.
This is garbage
Well, if it's any consolation Penn State has been playing their best bball lately. I use the term best as loosely as one can fathom.
The officials have taken over. We're done.
Are we planning on guarding the perimeter? How many unconstested threes do they have to make before we stop with the pointless double-teams?
FUCK THIS PIECE OF SHIT REFS
15 point lead. 15 point lead. 15 point lead. 15 point lead.
this is unbelievable
Coach B puts an emphasis on defense.
because I might kill someone in anger
God we stink. Even if we luck out a win we won't beat anyone good.
What the fuck?
I hate help defense just stick on your man. And that guy slid under burke not a charge.
If we had better man D we wouldn't need to help as much, they aren't two different styles of defense
upset alert upset alert
The refs aren't allowing open three's
No charge there?
THIS REFS ARE GODDAMN RETARDED
At least they have shiny shoes. Remember it's about them not the basketball game.
The refs want another upset.
What a shit blocking foul call. Geez
better get it together fast
that charge call on burke was SO BAD
How was that called a charge? What the actual fuck?
Penn State about to go on a 25-8 run. I'm speechless.
I HATE big ten refs
what was that call even?
Come on Morgan. Pathetic attempt at a charge.
Wow, I think we will eek out a win, but jesus Indiana and Michigan State are going to murder us. When was the last time we played well? It must have been at least a month ago.
not out of control. Bad call. But hey, no worries.
What the fucking fuck?!
At least be consistent on both ends refs. This is straight garbage.
STOP FUCKING LEAVING JERMAINE MARSHALL WIDE OPEN AT THE TOP OF THE KEY GODDAMMIT
Hey look, another foul on us. Surprise.
This has been an awful last 10 minutes.
PSU getting some senior night gifts; ridiculous calls down the stretch.
The refs have taken this over.
should just end it and give it to Penn State so all their hard work will come to fruition. Jesus swearword Christ.
Lose. Fuck is this team bad right now
Where has Mitch been throughout this stretch? We need his energy. Morgan has had some nice minutes out there tonight, but the way this game is going and his inability to move his feet while hedging, he is a walking foul/ 2 free throws.
is severely overrated by this blog. His defense is terrible and he gets lost on switches constantly. Offensively he's a good shooter, but at this point he really is just a shooter because he can't finish in traffic. His passing is a high variance experience.
Penn State can get to the line at will by just barreling into the lane. This is unf'n believeable
Will foul out first?
Fuck these refs. Seriously, fuck them.
Rushing the floor in about 5 minutes. We just cant get it together...
How do they have 74, seriously? Ridiculous.
Is such a joke. I'm done with this shit this year.
I'm sorry, this IS NOT a #1 seed in the NCAA tourney! There is no excuse for this soft ass play! Blame the refs, blame the bus driver, blame the camera guy in the rafters.....but this is a player problem! No defense coverage and Trey trying to play playground ball is not going to cut it.
WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKCKKKKKK
The defensive rotations are atrocious. Actually, they're prettty non-existant. Other than Morgan and only sometimes Lavert, the defense is terrible. I love Stauskas but his shot isn't falling anymore and his defense is horrendous. Burke also doesn't bring as much intensity on defense as you'd like to see. It's not wonder we got pounded by MSU without Morgan.
Marshall - mediocre player who is an All American versus us.
here we go...3 after 3 after 3 for no reason
3 flinging begin
What does not kill you makes you stronger ...
You MUST remember not the let it kill you
Fuck the refs.
It's not the ref's fault that Michigan can't play defense and they are playing with zero composure on offense. If Michigan was doing what they should be doing, this game wouldn't be anywhere close enough for the refs to be a factor.
HOW THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THAT A FOUL?
Wow. This is scary.
I'm not even sure what's happening right now besides the fact our defense is so atrociously bad that it defies description. I'm not sure if you know your NCAA history, but high seeds with shit defenses traditionally don't do well.
Our perimeter players can't stay in front of their men on defense. It's pick-and-roll, followed by a kick to a wide open shooter. Or a wing pass, followed by a blow-by and then either a foul or kick for another open 3.
This team doesn't deserve to win this game.
Refs have been bad, but come on, they haven't coughed up that 15 point lead.
The refs have handed PSU at least 10 points this half.
Why take such shitty shots?
An open three from a good shooter has a better effective fg percentage than anything that isn't a layup, I'm not going to criticize that
Playing badly, but this is an epic screwjob by these refs.
I don't think you an blame the Refs for this.
about to die.
Get in the god-damned paint
I'm so done.
"When you're team is losing stick with them. Keep believing."
- Bo Schembechler
Bullshit bullshit bullshit
I hate blaming refs but these refs are trying to make us lose
No our horrid defense is. There's no rotations at all.
Stop bitching about refs, this team plays straight up garbage defense and its time to acknowledge we aren't winning anything this year. Yeah we can and probably will win this game but we aren't going to win the big ten regular season or tourny title and will get bounced by the first good frontcourt we see in the ncaa tourny. It sucks because we should be better than this and there is no reason our defense should be this bad.
Eh, fuck your high road bullshit. This has been a railroading since we got up big.
It isn't high road bullshit, the refs weren't good but we gave up 82 points to the worst team in the big ten, thats embarrasing and I don't give a fuck what the refs did. This loss is embarassing and is highlighting the fact that this team just doesn't have what it tkaes for whaterver reason to play the defense necessary to really win anything of note this year.
in about 6 minutes. Play like you give a crap
Put in McGary...we need someone to get them goin
It's over - game set seasom
Even if we win, I don't want to watch this game anymore
someone tell me why we don't use our athleticism and run these scrubs off the fucking floor?
Can we stop with the panicked threes and the free throw bricks?
I really don't know why we cannot get over this Penn State team. We look like garbage tonight.
dispense with excuses about youth and Morgan's injury.
Where is the energy? We control our destiny and yet play with apathy.
Youth isn't a factor? This is totally the sign of youth. We still don't understand how hard you have to compete in every game.
4th seed in tournament
I almost don't want a 1 seed. I could seee this team being the first 1 to lose to a 16, and I don't want that stink on the program.
A little extreme but it seems we won't have to worry about that
and do our thing. When we get panicked, we start chucking 3's...which is what we're doing right now. Just chill a bit and the points will fall...oh and stop leaving Penn State's 3-point shooters wide open
have ruined this game
False. Michigan's piss poor defense has ruined this game. If Michigan was playing halfway decent defense this game wouldn't be close enough for the refs to ruin it.
You do realize that you can still win the B1G, right?
P.S. enough of the shitty substitutions.
what a melt down
Wow, we should probably drop to 15-20 for this. This is inexcusable.
I just turned it on. WHAT THE FU**??
Save yourself. Turn it back off.
MAKE-UP CALL? Seriously they're making "touching" a foul in this game...
These refs have called 34 fouls and counting. 34!
Belien is really not coaching well this game. This is a massive dissapointment. Turnovers are unacceptable and we are committing a ton of them. If I'm a Michigan opponent.....I simply apply ball pressure everywhere after watching this tape. If your up 15 you do not lose that type of lead against Penn State.
Attack the rim and draw fouls.
Not the time to start missing FTs
I'm going to summarize the last 400 comments: our defense is bad and the refs literally couldn't be jobbing us more if they were trying to.
Get the damn loose ball UGH
and GR3 can't hold onto it.
Shouldn't that be a jump ball?
It was....posession arrow to PSU
Hold on to the fucking ball!!!
Just no defense. Win or lose giving up 8- to Penn State is completely inexcusible
I had to turn off the game and come to this site. I couldn't take the refs any longer. I had already scared my family out of the room. Enough. Let me know how much we lose by please.
which would be a humiliating loss to put it lightly