massblue

January 12th, 2017 at 1:21 PM ^

Please be specific.  From what hear, he is managing the department very well.  Internal communication is much better, people know their responsibilities and he has increased resources available to the coaches (e.g., higher salary for assistants, improved facilities, etc).

 

What are your examples of incompetency?

George Pickett

January 11th, 2017 at 11:03 PM ^

Really nothing to say.  The team is bad, and there is no reason to think it will improve this year or the next.

Wolverine Devotee

January 11th, 2017 at 11:04 PM ^

Do you guys realize that Beilein didn't name captains?

2 seniors, no captains. When both last year were captains.




Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

George Pickett

January 11th, 2017 at 11:17 PM ^

Both Irvin and Walton are still captains.

"But after the game, U-M coach John Beilein didn’t mince words about his senior co-captains Zak Irvin and Derrick Walton Jr."

 

Wolverine Devotee

January 11th, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^

Tonight was a must-win. Illinois is terrible.

Nebraska is hot right now. Lost to Northwestern last game, but still beat two of the three teams we've lost to.

Then we have AT Wisconsin, a building we've won exactly twice in all-time. Then this same Illinois team at home, and then a stretch where face MSU twice, Indiana twice and then Wisconsin again before going on the road to The Barn to face Minnesota who already has a win over the best team in the league.

Which one of those games sound winnable? Maybe Illinois and/or Nebraska at home if we get our shit partially together.

I thought we escaped the darkness with Basketball, friends. I was wrong. That home game against sparty is gonna bring back very bad memories unless we start winning now so we can get our people in Crisler.

MichiganMAN47

January 11th, 2017 at 11:40 PM ^

Take a chill pill. The season is not over yet- there is A LOT of basketball yet to be played. It looks bleak, I agree, but Beilein teams tend to get better as the year goes on. This team is slumping but I'm not willing to write them off yet. We have said this many times during his tenure and the team usually turns it around.

If your doomsday predictions come true, you'll likely have your wish with regards to Beilein... it's as if some of you actively root for him to fail so you can stomp on his grave and say "see I was right."

Wolverine Devotee

January 12th, 2017 at 12:00 AM ^

Me?! Look up my threads from last year where I took beating after beating defending him because we had tons of injuries.

I'll always love and be thankful for Beilein gave us, regardless of what happens. I never saw us win anything but an NIT until that B1G title in 2011-12.

I said before the season that if we had a bad year with everyone healthy and with seniors, then I'd be mad.

We've dug out of holes before. The last and only time I was sure I wanted him fired was in 2010-11. 1-6 start to B1G play and Stu Douglass hits a shot on 1/27/2011 to change the course of the program.

It can happen. The problem is is that that team had great leaders and two future NBA players on it.




Sent from MGoBlog HD for iPhone & iPad

westwardwolverine

January 11th, 2017 at 11:18 PM ^

Obviously need to see how the season plays out, but if MIchigan ends up missing the tournament (seems like a certainty at this point) then yeah, Beilein has got to go. 

Three straight years of mediocrity (and two out of three tournaments missed) seems like a fair shake. The recruiting and development just hasn't continued since the Stauskas year. 

LJ

January 11th, 2017 at 11:22 PM ^

I think JB deserves next year at least, but even I -- a pretty staunch JB defender -- recognize that things look pretty bleak right now.

ColeIsCorky

January 11th, 2017 at 11:30 PM ^

I am just wondering where the team that blew up that first tournament and "looked like a top 10 team (according to ESPN at the time)" has been. They shot great and played really good Defense. Defense has been getting worse throughout the year, and the shots aren't really coming either. This season baffles me. Major regression.

FWIW, I'm not saying I agreed with the early assessment as far as being a top 10 team, but man those games were fun to watch. Looked completely different than what the team looks like now.

funkywolve

January 11th, 2017 at 11:42 PM ^

A lot of people look back at the RR era and say the game at Illinois where UM couldn't score from first and goal at the 1 in the beginning of the second half was the beginning of the end for RR. Are we going to look back at this game as the beginning of the end for JB? Even Ace is now starting to question how long JB might be at UM.

BlueRibbon

January 12th, 2017 at 12:56 AM ^

It looks so hard for our guards to beat anyone off the dribble, and so easy for anyone to beat our guards off the dribble... I just don't understand basketball stuff I guess.

Baffin

January 12th, 2017 at 10:48 AM ^

Recruiting has been a disaster. It's not just the inability to "close" on elite prospects (although that has obviously been a problem: see Battle, Langford, Winston, Brunson, Brown, Thornton, Huerter, etc.) but also passing on GETTABLE guys (3 star or low 4-star) who have the athleticism that the program needs. Four good examples come to mind:

1. Jamal Cain. In-state player, long, athletic forward with a relentless motor. Held an offer but JB soon passed on him. Much higher upside than other wings in the fold. Ended up at Marquette.

2. Quentin Goodin. 6-4 PG from Kentucky with extreme athleticism and strength. JB held out for Winston, who didn't end up here. I like X, but Goodin was perhaps the most underrated player in the class. Having a quiet freshman season at Xavier behind their loaded backcourt.

3. Nojel Eastern. 6-6 PG from Illinois who wanted to come to Michigan but had his offer pulled and ended up at Purdue, I think. Apparently JB wants to roll the dice on three sub-6-foot PGs with average-at-best athleticism and handles.

4. Donnie Tillman. Extremely strong in-state forward who by all accounts is a great student. Still scratching my head why JB wasn't interested considering the other players he has jumped at offering/signing.