MBB recruiting updates. 5/4/14
Let's not pretend that losing Grandstaff doesn't matter. That's MSU level stuff. We'll be ok regardless though and we still lead for Brunson.
We don't know if it matters yet. Depends on who we get to commit.
It's not like anytime a 4 star commits elsewhere it matters more than some other aspect of recruiting, that's how things go. Obviously the staff wanted him to visit and likely would have offered, but OSU beat us to the punch.
That said, OSU landed Jae-Sean Tate and Keita Bates-Diop after we offered both. Then we got Kameron Chatman who is ahead of both in the 247 composite. Not saying they aren't also great players, but wanted to point it out.
Let's see where the Wolverines are come signing day. More importantly, let's see what these kids do on the floor.
Also keep in mind...player development. This staff knocks that aspect out of the park. I'll take a 3 star or 4 star kid with our coaching over a more highly rated 4 star or 5 star with other staffs.
Until you run into kentucky and give up a 60% oreb rate because at a certain point undersized 4's and 5's probably will catch up to you. I'd take an entire class of 3 star wings and pgs to develop under beilein and jordan if it meant just one actually elite center. Mcgary would count if he had played even an entier seasons worth of games, but he didn't.
You have to remember though, that that's as good as it gets. Nobody really matches up well physically with Kentucky, as they take about seven of the top ten high-school players in the nation every year. And we still were an extremely low-percentage shot away from beating them and setting up a rematch with the buzzcuts in the Final Four.
I'll take 4 star or 5 star kids against other staffs before I would take 3 to 4's... That is what the worried fan is thinking. Then we'll complain when they are gone after their first year. Fans never happy
that you totally do in your third sentence what you said not to in the first.
I'm not sure it's a huge deal. Most of the kids our coaches offer or come close to offering will choose another school, so although it "matters" it's not a big deal each time one does.
Where did you hear we lead for Brunson? Not dismissing that, but I didn't hear that.
I'd be thrilled with getting say Ahmad, McQuaid, and either Coleman or Brunson... How likely is it that we get a trifecta like this?
I'll go Ahmad- OSU Brunson - Vill or UCONN McQuaid- SMU Coleman-UM
Really want Ollie to go pro
Brunson to Villanova has picked up steam.
What do you know?
Matt McQuaid, a top 100 wing, just informed Scout that he has committed to SMU.
the 2015 recruiting has baffled me for awhile. This should be the year that our on court success lead to greater recruiting success and we just aren't seeing it yet.
For better or worse this staff seems to have put all of their eggs in the Jalens basket. They slow played Eric Davis, Granstaff and others, and it could come back to bite them. Wing players should be lining up to play for this staff, but we have no commits, few visists and even fewer offers.
Some people will probably say its still very early for 2015, but not in hoops recruiting. Look at how many of the top 2015 kids have already committed.
I love this staff and the job they have done, I guess I am just greedy now and want them to take it to the next level on and off the floor.
Regarding Ahmad, I did find some decent highlights on YouTube of 2014 vintage (there are a fair number of 2013 videos as well). See below for what I thought to be one of the more interesting ones:
the title of that video is "Flyin' to the Hoop" and then proceeds to be 1:10 of him making lay-ups and maybe :10 of him dunking.
Hey OP-you definitely win the "most late night threads created" award. I can always count on you for something new after the board has gone to bed.
I'm a night shift vampire. My apologies.
Nothing to apologize for, always nice to wake up to some fresh threads on here.
Getting both Coleman and Brunson would make me a very happy camper.
Ahmad got offered by OSU, so it'll be tough to get him.
Grandstaff will be their Deibler but Diop will likely be their 4 man. They also had a PF transfer so their might be a log jam at the 4 spot their. I think we have a good shot. I personally am putting a lot of hope in 1 if not 2 of the Jalens!
Although, Lee (the grad PF transfer from Temple) will be gone by the time Ahmad arrives on campus, you may be right (the other transfer, Thompson, at 6'11 will most likely play the 5). OSU will have the following battling for playing time in 2015-16:
At the 3: Tate, Bates-Diop, Mitchell, Loving, depending on line-up- Grandstaff
At the 4: Bates-Diop, Mitchell, Loving, Bell, possibly Ahmad
That is a lot of young talent battling for that 3-4 stretch position. Could definitely play a role in Ahmad's recruitment.
Who are the centers that we're recruiting over the next couple of classes?
Lol no seriously though. ..we are having a bear of a time at this position. I cannot really name a realistic prospect at that position for us. Zimmerman and Stone are going to be really tough to even remain in the running for. All the prospects that I'm hearing about are wings and points. An occasional PF like Ahmad. I think with Donnal and Doyle we should be good for a while...unless of course Beilein happens to Donnal and he becomes Pau Gasol.
I read on an Arizona site that Zimmerman trimmed his list and Michigan wasn't in the teams that made the cut.
but yea, I am more concered about center recruting than anything else. This team needs an elite shot blocker/rebounder to compete at the highest level. Just look at this year's team in the tourney without Mitch vs last year's team with Mitch. Both runs were great, but Mitch put this team over the top in 2013.
why would an elite big want to come to Michigan? I can see why Jon didn't want to just set picks all day and never get a post look. there were a couple times every game where he would get really good position and no one would ever look at him.
I don't think Jon is all that good but would be improved with more consistent touches somewhere else.
I guess you could label McGary but he basically was just his own creator on his hustle. He still basically just set picks and rolled. He still never got post touches really.
I wish we could tap into some of those raw straight from Africa type players that develop a lot. UCONN always gets those guys and Louisville and Syracuse. I know our admissions won't really have it though.
In a perfect world, we would have Andre Drum on as a Beilien 5
did you watch the final 4 syracuse game? also, if a player has skills on offense, beilein will see it and utilize it.
I agree, and not just against Syracuse. He showed his complete game against Kansas. Post-ups, putbacks, transition, and off the dribble. All against one of the top centers in the country. If you have top level talent you will be used. I don't see how anyone could think otherwise. In watching basketball I don't see all of these back to the basket centers getting tons of post- ups. Most NBA scouts see versatility as an asset. Guys that can play pick n' roll, pick n' pop, run the floor, make the right pass are in high demand. All things part of Beilein's system. Somehow versatility has turned into a bad word for Michigan center recruiting. I guess I don't get it.
Yes, I can't believe Beilein didn't run more of the offense through Morgan given the terrible options available (Nik, Caris, GRIII, Walton, etc.). This is a classic case of using what you have. Yes, Morgan and Horford didn't get a ton of touches. Why would we have them initiate the offense when much better options are available? As others indicate, if McGary was playing (or Zimmerman, Stone, etc.) there would definitely be more touches for a big.
You sound like Matta trying to negatively recruit against UM by distorting the facts.
Coleman is a must get. Need a star 2 guard to replace Levert
It's an hour and 30 minutes long, but it's a fresh look at the incoming big man. Doyle is #32 on team Florida.
Thanks for posting.