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January 29th, 2013 at 11:15 AM
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MBB as many as 6 NBA players

This is quite remarkable...  18 months ago, many M fans were calling for Beilein's head... before you scoff at that statement, go look back. It is true. 

Now, the remarkable part is that 18 months later, we're ranked #1, and Beilein may have as many as SIX  NBA players on the roster.

Burke

Robinson  

Hardaway

McGary

Stauskas  .....    don't scoff at this one... he is a true freshman that is showing some elite skills... if he has an above-average trajectory in his overall game the remaining three years, then he should/will make it.

Horford    .....   he is still not fully matured...still looks like a kid... the metamorphosis may come this offseason....    it is in his genes with his father and brother in the NBA, so Im putting this at 50/50     

Beilein is showing astounding talent evaluation, especially now with the uptick in the program, which bodes incredibly well for incomers like Zak Irvin and Derrick Walton.

Hoooooo---wweeeeeeee........ is the future bright for mens' basketball.

 

 

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January 29th, 2013 at 11:22 AM | I'd be more surprised at this (Score:5 Normal)
State Street
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I'd be more surprised at this point if Stauskas didn't make it as a professional.  Anyone who can shoot 50% from 3 or better can probably carve out a role in the league, and that's not even touching upon the other skills he's flashed at times.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:24 AM | If JJ Reddick can make it, (Score:3 Normal)
solo dolo
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If JJ Reddick can make it, Stauskas definitely should be able to.

"I think Hoke has changed the tide on the rivalry. Hell people in Ohio are starting to believe him. Never in a million years I would have thought that. Selling Michigan jerseys is a good start."

January 29th, 2013 at 1:55 PM | JJ Reddick is a 10X the (Score:2 Normal)
SotoWolverine
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JJ Reddick is a 10X the player that Stauskas is. Don't get me wrong, Stauskas is a great player and I do think he will play in the NBA. But JJ is a better shooter, had better handles, more of a leader and just a winner. The guy was the all time leading scorer in the ACC and is the all time leading scorer in a season and a career at Duke. 

Stauskas is has been great for us and I love that he is on our team. But let's ease up on the expectiations. 

January 29th, 2013 at 2:34 PM | JJ made a huge leap in his (Score:1)
gutnedawg
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JJ made a huge leap in his college career. His third year was much better than his first two. I think Stauskas can do it but there's one thing that JJ had that Stauskas doesn't and that's free throws.

/°>

 

January 29th, 2013 at 3:07 PM | More of a leader and just a winner (Score:3 Normal)
KJ
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So you're saying he's grittier?

 

Also, Stauskas is a freshman, so he's not expected to be a leader on a team with older, more established players. And he's got a 19-1 record thus far.

"I'm here with my friend, the zombie, Johnathon. Michigan is in the Final Four for the first time in 20 years, what do you think?"

"I like turtles."

January 29th, 2013 at 3:54 PM | "Stauskas is a freshman" Thus (Score:2)
highestman
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"Stauskas is a freshman"

Thus making the comparison to the all time ACC leading scorrer all the more rediculous. I love Stauskas, but you can't just start comparing him to someone like Reddick after 20 collegiate games.

January 29th, 2013 at 7:42 PM | You really can't compare (Score:2)
WolvinLA2
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You really can't compare them.  Stauskas is way better.  And far less of a pussy.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:37 AM | After all, Stauskas is more (Score:5 Normal)
South Bend Wolverine
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After all, Stauskas is more than just a shooter. :p

Now with 100% less South Bend, 100% more Washington DC.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:42 AM | In fact, he may be more than (Score:4 Normal)
1484
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In fact, he may be more than just a shooter, but he is more than just more than just a shooter as well.

Hail.

January 29th, 2013 at 12:24 PM | Hold on a second... (Score:2 Normal)
Yo_Blue
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You can't reference Stauskus without mentioning that he is more than just a shooter.

Should we point instead of fist pump during the Victors?

January 29th, 2013 at 1:01 PM | Am I to understand that (Score:3 Normal)
Lionsfan
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Am I to understand that everybody thinks Stauskas can only shoot? Guys, he's more than just a shooter

If you're doing nothing, how do you know when you're finished?

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January 29th, 2013 at 11:24 AM | Steve Nash paved the way for (Score:1)
pessiMICHtic
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Steve Nash paved the way for Canadians...why not Stauskas too?

3-3-5 til the day I die y'all

January 29th, 2013 at 12:10 PM | Wait, what? (Score:5 Normal)
pkatz
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If Nash already paved the way for Canadiens, then Stauskas would have to re-pave it.  I mean, you can't pave twice, that's just silly...

January 29th, 2013 at 1:23 PM | Tell MDOT that (Score:5 Normal)
TwoFitty
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Tell MDOT that

HAIL

January 29th, 2013 at 2:56 PM | bazinga! (Score:2)
pkatz
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bazinga!

January 29th, 2013 at 3:56 PM | He might just be clearing the (Score:2)
nikj
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He might just be clearing the snow off of the road for other Canadians.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:32 AM | I remember after the 1-6 (Score:4 Normal)
ReadYourGuard
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I remember after the 1-6 conference start a couple years ago, someone made a post about "Time for Beilein to go?"



I don't think anybody should be faulted for thinking that. Who in their right mind would have guessed we'd achieve a 19-1 start?



Amazing what Coach B has been able to build.



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January 29th, 2013 at 12:11 PM | Former Skeptic > Current Convert (Score:2 Underrated)
chatster
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Having been among those who was a skeptic a couple of years ago about whether John Beilein's system could work at Michigan, and having had further doubts after watching the Wolverines lose two games in Atlantic City, NJ in a Thanksgiving weekend tournament with Syracuse, Georgia Tech and UTEP in 2010, I'm ready to admit now that I was among the many who were wrong , , , and as The Beatles sang:

 

January 29th, 2013 at 11:34 AM | I think Bielfeldt (Score:1 Normal)
wresler120
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I think Bielfeldt has more of a chance than Horford does. Horford is a good player, but I don't think NBA caliber, and he can't stay healthy. I have been very impressed with Bielfeldt in limited minutes, and he has plenty of time to improve.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:51 AM | You have a sample size of (Score:5 Normal)
Bodogblog
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You have a sample size of just over zero on which to base this conclusion

January 29th, 2013 at 12:09 PM | Having both a father, and a (Score:0 Normal)
January 29th, 2013 at 12:17 PM | i like Max, but no way does (Score:2)
Elmer
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i like Max, but no way does he have a better chance than Horford.  Max is a 6'7 power forward with limited athletic ability. 

Horford is 6'10, he has the bloodlines and continues to substantially improve each year.

January 29th, 2013 at 12:42 PM | Who would he guard? How would (Score:2)
bacon1431
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Who would he guard? How would he score? He's not a Jason Maxiell type that has crazy athleticism. Unless he becomes a phenomenal shooter or develops an amazing post game, he will not get a sniff b/c of his limited physical attributes.

That said, I've loved him when he's got on the floor. He will be a contributor throughout his career.

For a' that, an' a' that, 
Our toils obscure an' a' that, 
The rank is but the guinea's stamp, 
The man's the gowd for a' that. 
January 29th, 2013 at 1:45 PM | I disagree (Score:1)
rainingmaize
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I like Bielfeldt as well, however he's too small for the NBA. He's only 6'7"

EDIT: not fast enough on the draw, beaten to the punch

January 29th, 2013 at 11:36 AM | People are very high on McGary (Score:2)
Space Coyote
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Don't get me wrong, he's been a solid player for Michigan so far. But he's also more developed physically than your average freshman and hasn't shown that he is a sure-fire NBA player. He's a solid hustle player, and does a lot of things well, but still really needs to develop many of the finer parts of his game.

He's not physically gifted enough to simply be a raw athlete that NBA teams crave, and he really needs to work on shooting, post offense, and post defense. He's probably not growing much more.  In my opinion right now he's looking like a very solid college player with a chance at the NBA.

Again, he may be an NBA prospect in the future, but at this point I'm a bit confused why so many are just assuming he is. Stauskas has just as good if not better shot than McGary IMO.

4/23/13 - Denard Robinson's NFL Future, Part II

January 29th, 2013 at 11:38 AM | You just said a guy that had (Score:2)
State Street
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You just said a guy that had never seen the inside of a weightroom until moving into West Quad is "more developed physically than your average freshman."

I'm confused.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:47 AM | He's already 19, soon to be 20 (Score:2)
Space Coyote
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He probably isn't growing taller. He's grown into his body (aka he's matured physically, so there won't be that jump where suddenly he becomes comfortable with the way his limbs move). He may get stronger, but his trajectory will not be like most freshman. He's much closer to peaking physically than most at this stage in their college career.

Also, the finer things he needs to work on are some of the more difficult things to develop. I'm sure he'll get better at all of them, but there is a solid chance it isn't enough to become an NBA player. I think he will be a pro player, but the odds are just as high that he will be a Euro pro than an NBA pro at this point.

4/23/13 - Denard Robinson's NFL Future, Part II

January 29th, 2013 at 12:05 PM | 20 soon to be 21 (Score:2)
feanor
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20 soon to be 21, he was born in 1992.  I completely agree with you with regards to McGary's NBA chances, if he has to stay for 4 years he will be 24 before he plays an NBA game.

January 29th, 2013 at 12:52 PM | How is that possible?  (Score:1)
coastal blue
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How is that possible? 

January 29th, 2013 at 12:54 PM | You said it yourself: (Score:1)
redhousewolverine
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You said it yourself: prospect. Yes he is a year older than all his classmates but as another poster mentioned he has never stepped foot in a weight room and it shows. He plays hard but isn't in great shape. He has the athletic potential and size to be an NBA player and that is more of what the NBA is looking for in the draft than anything else. He isn't crazy athletically gifted but he shows good vision, good passing skills (when not trying to reverse court when he is triple-teamed), and is a good defender. He needs a mother year or two to polish his game for sure and he might not get there but that's why he is a prospect. Only Robinson, Burke, and hardaway are the surefire NBA players. Even stauskas needs to develop, particularly his defensive game. Byrd was lighting it up-luckily with some of those shots-but there are far better players in the NBA that stauskas is going I have to guard. I think he will get there, but prospect is the key term. Plus, there is probably a latent desire by all Michigan fans for mcgary to live up to that 2 ranking that he feel from.

"The unexamined life is not worth living." Socrates.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:37 AM | Tell us something we don't know... (Score:0 Trolling)
January 29th, 2013 at 12:00 PM | And Spike. (Score:2 Normal)
allintime23
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And Spike.

All in for some manball.

January 29th, 2013 at 12:12 PM | And Eso. (Score:3 Normal)
State Street
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And Eso.

January 29th, 2013 at 12:53 PM | He might carve out a role as (Score:4 Normal)
DeuceInTheDeuce
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He might carve out a role as a trebuchet

January 29th, 2013 at 12:13 PM | And Bartelstein...! (Score:4 Normal)
pkatz
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but as an NBA agent, of course

January 29th, 2013 at 1:20 PM | That's racist. (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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That's racist.

January 29th, 2013 at 2:58 PM | HA! (Score:2)
pkatz
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good memory, WolvinLA!

January 29th, 2013 at 11:40 AM | This thread (Score:3 Insightful)
ThWard
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Is definitely not getting too far ahead of itself.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:43 AM | Your Horford odds are a bit crazy (Score:3 Normal)
Space Coyote
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It's nice to see Horford start to become a solid player, but he is the third big on a college team. Maybe something amazing happens and he becomes a great player, but he's had over two years with this level of coaching, most likely he won't become an NBA level talent.

He might, I'm not giving certainty that he won't, but putting the odds at 50/50 is crazy. I would say it's a very outside chance he gets drafted or sticks in the NBA (whatever your criteria is for becoming an NBA player). I think it's much more likely that he becomes a solid big man that comes off the bench for Michigan and maybe starts toward the end of his senior year then goes to play in Europe (where his skill set should give him a solid career over there).

4/23/13 - Denard Robinson's NFL Future, Part II

January 29th, 2013 at 12:06 PM | You're probably right... (Score:0 Normal)
January 29th, 2013 at 12:53 PM | Luke Zeller is now playing in (Score:1)
coastal blue
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Luke Zeller is now playing in the NBA. 

Go take a look at his college stats. 

January 29th, 2013 at 1:09 PM | Current Production Doesn't Necessarily Reflect NBA Potential (Score:1)
Mat
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College and NBA production are very loosely correlated.  I'd argue Horford has a better chance of making it than McGary, and LaVert has a better chance of making it than Stauskas. 

January 29th, 2013 at 3:25 PM | Don't forget (Score:1)
ashea
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Don't forget that Horford was ahead of Morgan last year before the injuries.  Right now I'd say he's an injury risk but has NBA potential if he gets his body right.

January 29th, 2013 at 11:56 AM | Swap Levert for Horford and (Score:1 Normal)
ChasingRabbits
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Swap LeVert for Horford and you might be onto something.

 

 

Go Blue!

January 29th, 2013 at 12:02 PM | You'd think, right?  Yet I (Score:-1 Flamebait)
January 29th, 2013 at 12:40 PM | It's probably because you're (Score:1 Flamebait)
Nosce Te Ipsum
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It's probably because you're using ellipses like crazy. It's annoying. Hence the negging.

Omnia mutantur nos et mutamur in illis.

January 29th, 2013 at 1:32 PM | It was the hoooo wwwweeeeee (Score:1)
ken725
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It was the hoooo wwwweeeeee at the end of his post that pushed it over the top.

Greetings from Bolivia.

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January 29th, 2013 at 1:25 PM | Seriously - get these (Score:5 Normal)
WolvinLA2
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Seriously - get these non-alumni out of here, right? I mean, I went to Michigan so I can post here, but my brother who didn't - he has no business being a fan! And my dad too! And my cousins who aren't even old enough to go to college! None of them are real fans like me!!!

Or maybe people are negging you for being a little bit of an asshole.

January 29th, 2013 at 1:52 PM | For me it was the (Score:3 Normal)
UMgradMSUdad
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For me it was the statement

"before you scoff at that statement, go look back. It is true."  It sounded like a statement a kid being bullied on the playground would make, like maybe you think you're addressing "assholes on mgoblog." You would have been better off just leaving that out, or in its place, providing a link to a post 18 months ago. 

January 29th, 2013 at 7:35 PM | Yes (Score:2)
Mr Miggle
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I looked for a link that may have been hidden in the op. I should have known better. 

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