MBB Hello: Ibi Watson

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A little out of the blue, but I'll gladly take a SG from Pickerington:

I'm extremely blessed and excited to announce that I'm officially committing to the University of Michigan!! #GoBlue #MichTape

— Ibi Watson (@ibi_watson_2) July 28, 2015

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Stringer Bell

July 28th, 2015 at 3:27 PM ^

So I take it that Bridges spot is now taken?  Great.  Hope this kid pans out and makes the most of his time at Michigan, but it doesn't make sense why we only get these under-the-radar types, especially at wing where Beilein's track record of development is impeccable.  

Stringer Bell

July 28th, 2015 at 4:05 PM ^

He has an offer, no?  That would imply that he has stepped foot on campus.  Also, he couldn't stop talking about Beilein and co.'s player development, turning lowly rated recruits into NBA players, blah blah blah.  I know, it's all recruit speak, but given his ties to the state, his talent level, and our need for a big time wing after Battle royally f'ed us over, I was hoping the coaches would make Bridges a priority.  Though based on what I read, Michigan wasn't contacting him nearly as much as MSU and UK have been, which disappoints me (supposedly Thornton cooled on us for the exact same reason).

Mr Miggle

July 28th, 2015 at 5:06 PM ^

considered a longshot. Remember that his spot was taken by Battle for awhile. If they felt better about their chances, probably they hold off on offering Watson. The problem is that their plan B guys aren't going to wait forever. They decided not to offer Cumberland and he comitted to Cinci. They just just went through the eval period and didn't offer Watson until it was over. He was planning to commit soon too.

It is disappointing to miss out on him. We're picking up solid prospects, but not obvious game changers. That being said, you can never be certain how the roster will shake out. There's always the possibility of unexpected attrition. I don't think Michigan is completely done recruiting Bridges. He can still schedule an OV, even if there isn't room for him at the time.

Stringer Bell

July 28th, 2015 at 5:34 PM ^

Yeah, I guess I just don't understand why we're missing out on all of our plan A's.  I think it's shy recruiting, personally.  I know the coaches work tirelessly to evaluate players but I'd like to see them work just as tirelessly to sell Michigan to the great talents, which I'm just not sure has been the case.  Michigan basketball got so close to the pinnacle, and since then we've been moving farther and farther away.  It's frustrating, because I think we should be elite.

BigBlue02

July 28th, 2015 at 7:43 PM ^

This is just fucking ridiculous and an insult to our coaches. So your gut feeling is that when it comes to really talented basketball players, our coaches just lose their passion for Michigan, but for the under-the-radar guys they sell the shit out of Michigan? I was wrong, that's not ridiculous, it's downright stupid. See my post below. Just because we have missed on some plan A guys doesn't mean we are any farther away from the final four than we were a couple years ago. We are just as talented, if not more talented, than when we went to the championship game. Teske and Davis are both top 100 big men to go along with this kid, who will be a 4 star when everything is said and done. How is that moving farther away?

Stringer Bell

July 28th, 2015 at 8:06 PM ^

You must've been living under a rock last season.  Or did you just forget that we missed the postseason altogether?  How about the fact that we were 11-7 before Caris and Walton went down, including losses to powerhouses NJIT and Eastern Michigan?

They don't need to sell the shit out of Michigan to the under-the-radar guys, because Michigan is their best offer.  When you're talking about guys with a who's who of offers, yeah, you need to sell them on why Michigan is better for them than everyone else.  I thought that didn't require explanation, but apparently I was mistaken.

If you honestly think that this year's roster is more talented than the team that went to the championship game, then I dunno what to tell you.  Maybe you should stop calling other people stupid though if you really think that.

BigBlue02

July 29th, 2015 at 12:44 AM ^

If we are going by star rankings (which is what I assume you were talking about when you said beilein can't get top tier guys), then yes, they are just as talented. Two guys that were borderline 5 star talent (Robinson-McGary and Irvin-Chatman), 1 guy that is a superstar who was underrated by the services (Burke and Caris) and another two top 100 guys (Stauskas-Hardaway and Wilson-Euro guy whose name I can never remember). Also you have Walton, another top 50 player as a starter next year. So that is your starting 5 that is pretty much the exact same star ranking. Add in all the true freshmen forced to start due to injury now becoming sophomores and your team is just as talented. It isn't rocket science. I didn't even mention Donnal, who was also a fringe top 100 guy. One could argue based on rankings, this team is better. And last year we almost had a .500 record in the B10 without our two best players. Everyone knows that not only do beilein teams get better as the season goes on, but so do true freshmen. Can you imagine what Wisconsin would have looked like without Kaminski and Hayes? How about MSU without Dawson and Trice? I bet they wouldn't have been .500 in the B10 either. I know they were 11-7 with both Walton and Caris. We also had freshmen and sophomores all over the lineup learning new roles (Irvin finding himself, Caris and Walton learning how to carry the team, etc...) But please, keep telling us how the coaching staff doesn't care about Michigan enough when they talk to highly ranked recruits

BigBlue02

July 28th, 2015 at 6:27 PM ^

Only get under-the-radar types? Huh? Our starting 5 going into next season could be as highly ranked as the one that went to the final four. Especially at the wing? Huh? You mean like under-the-radar near 5 star wings Irvin and Chatman? How many top 50 players do you want on the team? I swear some people think we are Kentucky or Duke and then get pissed when we don't have 5 star talent coming off the bench. Our starting lineup next year could include 3 top 50 four star guard/wings (Walton, Irvin, Chatman) and two top 100ish big men (Wilson, the euro 3 point shooting big man, who could be top 50 if he were actually ranked). This doesn't include MAAR, Dawkins, Caris, and Doyle, or in other words, 3 freshman starters and a possible lottery pick that weren't as highly rated as all the other 4 and 5 star guys on the team.

Stringer Bell

July 28th, 2015 at 8:02 PM ^

Trey Burke was a composite 4 star, Tim Hardaway 3 star, McGary 4 star, GR3 5 star, Stauskas 4 star.

Compared with: Walton 4 star, Levert 2 star/unranked, Dawkins 2 star/unranked, Irvin 4 star, Doyle 3 star.  I don't see the similarities there.

But ignoring the stars, I'm talking about coveted players.  Not guys that are wanted by a few mid majors.  How many top 50 players?  I dunno, I'd like the number of top 50 players to exceed the number of unrated players though.  I don't want 5 stars up the wazoo, but I do want to hit on the occasional Plan A recruit, not miss and then keep going down the list until you get to the guy that was being recruited by MAC schools.

Avon Barksdale

July 28th, 2015 at 9:52 PM ^

What site are you going off of? LeVert and Dawkins were both 3 stars. LeVert is also an All-American candidate so I think it's safe to say you can put him on Hardaway's level..... You also missed the poster's point where Kam Chatman was a top 50 guy along with a foreigner who wasn't scouted by the sites.

Depth wise, this year's team is equal to that 2012-13 team. The difference is this team needs Derrick Walton, not to be Trey Burke, but to be healthy and productive all season. Something like 14/7/5 would be great.

Stringer Bell

July 28th, 2015 at 10:16 PM ^

Eh, the depth of this year's team relies heaviliy on guys like Chatman, Donnal, Wilson, and Wagner stepping up.  If 2 or 3 of those guys become contributors then yeah this team will have a ton of depth.  But the starting 5's aren't comparable.  

I didn't miss his point about Chatman.  That makes 3 top 50 players on this team.  Some guys like Dawkins and MAAR have shown flashes of being much better than their rankings, but a big time program like Michigan doesn't have 3 top 50 players total by choice.  That's the result of having to go down the wishlist frequently.

BigBlue02

July 29th, 2015 at 1:32 AM ^

First off, 3 top 50 and a bunch of players outperforming their rankings is exactly what got us to the championship game and won the B10 by 3 games. I still haven't figured out why that seems to be a problem for you. Second, last year's team was one of the youngest in the country even before their two veterans were injured and this year's team will also be one of the youngest. Even if we hit on a top guy or two, we need guys to stay for 4 years in order to be good year in year out. We don't reload like Kentucky or duke so you might as well get used to it. We will continue to have a down year when we have 5 early entrants to the NBA in a two year span. I'm guessing beilein didn't plan on starting 3 true freshmen for most of last year

BlueIsland

July 28th, 2015 at 6:37 PM ^

Sad to say (or happy depends on the way you look at it) but the Nike deal is really going to open up things in-state for Michigan recruiting. The majority of  The Family kids weren't willing to possibly ruin that relationship with Nike by signing with an Adidas school.

The funny thing is though, Norm from the Michigan Mustangs (Adidas) is hell bent on sending his kids to Tom Izzo, breaking ranks. The Adidas grassroots organization managment went to crap once Sonny V went to Reebok.

93Grad

July 28th, 2015 at 3:40 PM ^

which is obviuously not a bad thing.  It is still pretty irksome, however, the way the Battle thing played out.  I think we need more top end talent if we are ever going to reach another final four beyond this year. 

Lanknows

July 28th, 2015 at 3:42 PM ^

Love the potential Walton-Winston-Watson backcourt rotation in 2016-17!  Errr, I mean Walton-Winston-Watson-Abdur-Rhakim rotation.

Watson looks like a good player. Fits the Stuaskas/LeVert/Hardaway mold of versatility.  Shame about Battle, but with how good these coaches are with player development Watson could easily end up being the better player in the end.

If they can land Winston, this should be a highly rated class with several big-time talents and excellent program fits.  '16 has the potential to be the best class since 2012...but a lot rides on Cassius.