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MBB class of 2016 offer day open thread

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June 15th, 2014 at 8:48 AM
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MBB class of 2016 offer day open thread

Not expecting any Hellos today, but you never know.  Seems like out of the likely offerees, Towns could be a possibility today.

Umhoops has a breakdown of likely and possible offers going out today.

http://www.umhoops.com/2014/06/13/expect-class-2016-offer-day/

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June 15th, 2014 at 8:57 AM
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How will we find out about

How will we find out about the offers? Do we just have to watch twitter and wait for kids to tweet that they were offered?

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June 15th, 2014 at 9:09 AM
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You'll probably just have to

You'll probably just have to wait about 6 to 8 weeks until the news trickles out. The info definitely won't be posted in this here open thread or in other dedicated threads.

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June 15th, 2014 at 9:14 AM
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watch for the

Pony Express guy carrying the block M banner

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June 15th, 2014 at 10:27 AM
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Man where were you guys hours

Man where were you guys hours ago. I've been staring at the skies looking for smoke signals all morning.

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June 15th, 2014 at 11:37 AM
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Thornton

Has a sky writer on standby.

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:17 PM
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If they go morse code...

I'm ready!!

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:06 PM
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Or wait 5-6 hours and see the

Or wait 5-6 hours and see the reported offers in this thread.

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June 15th, 2014 at 10:08 PM
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Haha guys. I was just

Haha guys. I was just wondering if UM would be issuing an official list or something or if we just had to wait to hear from individual people.

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June 15th, 2014 at 9:11 AM
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I would say

Tweets of recruits or guys like Sam Webb, and I'm sure Umhoops will.have updates. I'm sure they will get posted here, as well, by any of the vast mgoblogger community.

 

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June 15th, 2014 at 10:04 AM
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Possible offers.....

Thornton, Towns, Leaf, Teske, Battle, Murray, Winston, Goodin. Some others to watch: Guy, Gordon, Moyer, & Benson.

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June 15th, 2014 at 10:06 AM
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I have a feeling UM will

I have a feeling UM will relieve 1 commit from a 2016 player in the next 3 days. Just a feeling/hope.

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June 15th, 2014 at 10:06 AM
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Receive not relieve.

Receive not relieve.

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June 15th, 2014 at 10:39 AM
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Sam Webb's take

On Friday's recruiting roundup (podcast; skip to 11:02), Sam Webb gave an off-the-top-of-his-head rundown of who he thinks will get offers: Derryck Thornton Jr., Cassius Winston, Jamal Murray, T.J. Leaf, and Tyus Battle.

He also mentioned Caleb Swanigan, the 6-8 five-star center out of Fort Wayne. Although it was reported that Swanigan is reclassifying to 2015, that may not have actually happened yet. So Sam believes that Beilein & Co. have still been treating him like a 2016 and that they'll now offer him.

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June 15th, 2014 at 11:37 AM
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6'8" center? That's our specialty. We've gotta get

6'8" center? That's our specialty. We've gotta get this guy.

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June 15th, 2014 at 12:00 PM
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He is already listed as 2015

He is already listed as 2015 on all the recruiting sites.

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June 15th, 2014 at 1:18 PM
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Doesn't matter

If he hasn't submitted the paperwork necessary for the reclassification to be official, then Beilein is still going to consider him a 2016.

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June 15th, 2014 at 1:01 PM
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Hmm, no Seth Towns?

Hmm, no Seth Towns?

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June 15th, 2014 at 1:26 PM
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That surprised me, too.

As I said, this was an off-the-top-of-the-head kind of thing, so it's possible Sam just forgot to mention Towns. He nearly forgot about Tyus Battle.

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June 15th, 2014 at 11:52 AM
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Towns likely pulls the

Towns likely pulls the trigger first. I would LOVE Thornton though.



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June 15th, 2014 at 11:57 AM
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Any word

On Austin Davis? 6'10 center...playing for Michigan Mustangs this summer. Inside and outside threat....

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June 15th, 2014 at 2:04 PM
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...

Te coaches will keep in touch with him, but I don't think anything will happen with him unless he displays a lot of improvement this summer on the athleticism/quickness/motor part of his game. He's got good touch for a big man, but from his tape looks easily gassed and quite flat-footed. He's young though so that could very well improve as he gets stronger.

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June 15th, 2014 at 2:24 PM
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Thornton Jr. offered

No surprise.  The anticipation is on which other point guards, if any, are offered.  I suspect they hold out for a couple weeks before offering others.

http://www.umhoops.com/2014/06/15/michigan-offers-five-star-guard-derryc...

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June 15th, 2014 at 2:36 PM
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Winston has also been offered

http://forum.umhoops.com/discussion/868/offer-day#latest

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:14 PM
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More—

Derryck Thornton Jr and Jon Teske get Mich offers. Tj leaf to get a call from beilein at 6 Pacific

— Chris Balas (@Balas_Wolverine) June 15, 2014

 

2016 five-star guard Tyus Battle tells me that he has gotten the call and #Michigan has offered

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) June 15, 2014

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:16 PM
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I think that's the first time

I think that's the first time I've heard of Jon Teske

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:27 PM
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I'm with you

6-11 center from Medina, Ohio, unranked, with an offer from Dayton and Ohio State and interest from Indiana and Purdue. Here's a bit of video:

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:31 PM
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Gob's not on board.

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:29 PM
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June 15th, 2014 at 4:01 PM
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That video

appears to be just about the only video of him playing available on the internet.

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June 15th, 2014 at 9:20 PM
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Man you've been missing out

Soothing voice, easy-listening music, relevant info to make you the smartest person in the room. Check it out for yourself...



http://www.tesh.com/radio



Wait...what's that you say? We're talking about John Teske the basketball recruit? I see. Well then. Carry on.

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:38 PM
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Cassius Winston has been

Cassius Winston has been offered. 5 star from U-D Jesuit.

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:44 PM
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Seth Towns has been

Seth Towns has been offerred. 

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:53 PM
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Current complete Offer list from various sources

Derryck Thornton Jr. (Rivals confirmation, Scout confirmation and reaction)

Tyus Battle (247 confirmation)

Jon Teske (Rivals confirmation)

Cassius Winston (Scout confirmation)

Seth Towns (confirmed via his twitter)

TJ Leaf (expected to happen 6pm Pacific, 9pm Eastern)

Very impressive list of offers.  The staff looks like they are interested in getting at least 4 if not 5 committments in the class.  PG (Thornton, Winston), SG (Battle), Wings (Leaf, Towns), and Big (Teske).  Could see another complete class a la 2012 that can play on the floor all at once.

EDIT: The only other prospect I think I personally really want them to offer is SG Jamal Murray.  Quentin Goodin is another PG prospect who may be in line for an offer down the line in the summer.

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June 15th, 2014 at 3:59 PM
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Not sure

that I'm too wild about the Teske offer.  Although it probably means he's due to blow up now.  Isn't that how things work when Beilein extends an offer?

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:03 PM
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Beilein uber alles. 

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:17 PM
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I know little of Teske

But he seems to be another case of "big man who suffered injury and is recovering"

Recently added an OSU offer.  Considering he's an Ohio native, that may just mean they are making the local effort, but I think it's a worthwhile offer.  We're not in on any high profile big targets like we are with guards and wings.  Good chance that Doyle, Wilson, and possibly Donnal are still around to play the 5 that season, so no need for immediate impact.

http://www.umhoops.com/2014/06/15/ohio-big-man-jon-teske-adds-michigan-offer/

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:16 PM
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"I know little of Teske"

and that's kind of my point here, nobody does.  Why rush him an offer?

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:31 PM
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Beilein probably does

If Beilein offered him this early, then he knows Teske and his ability pretty well. If he's about to blow up, wouldn't you want to be one of the first guys to offer?

If Ohio State has already offered, and Purdue and Indiana are showing interest, then clearly the competition knows who he is. Who cares if the services and fans don't know who he is? Maybe the kid won't be that good, but the fact that the services don't know who he is doesn't really mean anything at this point in the process.

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:32 PM
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It's a good thing Beilein

It's a good thing Beilein knows him and is the one who actually extends the offers rather than those of is who have never seen any of these guys play live.

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:42 PM
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I say that

meaning that I have seen very very little game film about him.  I have definitely heard his name on pay sites and on UMHoops.com repeatedly.  I've gotten the impression that the staff want another big in 2015/2016, but they aren't looking for someone as blue chip as McGary ended up being.  I would be happy with a legit 6-10, possible 6-11 big man who seems to have better length than either Donnal or Doyle.

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:47 PM
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I get that

and it very well may turn out just fine.  I just don't get the hurry to offer him on the first day.  With two years before the class gets on campus, why not try and work on someone like Omari Spellman or Caleb Swanigan, both of which should have higher ceilings.

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:58 PM
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They may have higher ceilings

I have gotten the impression with this coaching staff that their message of players who are "Breaking down the doors to play at Michigan" is more truth than coachspeak.  They may really feel that Teske is a much more likely commit than Swanigan and Spellman.  Therefore, if he commits, it gives them more time in the 2016 class to work on their other prospects.  Not saying that I agree with that process on every level, but just indicating what I believe to be the possible reasoning.

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June 15th, 2014 at 6:04 PM
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Fair enough

I have no problem being wrong here (which is so far off nobody's going to remember either way), but I don't get why people can't even fathom questioning something Beilein does.  I don't think I expressed any vitriol over the move, just said I wasn't wild about it.  Beilein's been wrong before and I'm just saying I think Teske might be more Vogrich/Brundidge than Caris LeVert.  Having blind faith in something is generally a bad idea.  (Last part of this isn't directed specifically at you, DingoBlue)

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June 15th, 2014 at 6:11 PM
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No worries Chippewa

I definitely recognize the issue with blind faith in this case.  Brundidge was a miss, and I definitely have some issue with John Beilein's plans at end of half and end of game situations (no fouling @ Wisconsin 2013 with fouls to give rings a bell).  I actually was not expecting Teske to get an offer, but his was the name that most pops up for big men in 2016 that Michigan has shown interest in.  I think they definitely could have waited on the offer, but I'm certainly intrigued by the possibility of him committing and its implications.

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June 15th, 2014 at 6:37 PM
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MGoChippewa, this is not a

MGoChippewa, this is not a specific attack on you, but you hit on one of my irritations. There is a big difference between one expert questioning the actions of another expert (I.e. Bill Self or Coach K questioning Beilein) vs. someone who has never coached at a high level questioning Beilein.
If you are a DI or even DIII coach, congrat's, good luck on your upcoming season, and thank you for your insight.
And yes, I am an expert on questioning other people's actions.

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:51 PM
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I don't know, he looks fluid,

I don't know, he looks fluid, and there aren't too many prospects out there at 6'11 (or a legit 6'10, more likely).  I really like the way he gathers the ball after the two blocks in his video and he's already looking up to break.  If the coaches want him after seeing him at camp, I'm on board.

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:17 PM
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He looks fluid

and we can make this determination in 36 seconds?

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:31 PM
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I like how you're not knowing much

must mean the coaches don't either.

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:42 PM
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I like how you

assumed that I don't think the coaches know what they're doing.  I said "I" am not wild about the offer, which I immediately followed with the qualifier that these types of recruits tend to blow up when Beilien gets in on them.  Reading is a wonderful thing, please try it.

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June 15th, 2014 at 6:11 PM
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I can read just fine, thank you.

I know little of Teske" and that's kind of my point here, nobody does. Why rush him an offer?

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June 15th, 2014 at 6:46 PM
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Nothing in that statement

suggests the coaches don't know what they're doing.  Please try again.  Questioning something is far from making a statement.

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June 15th, 2014 at 7:29 PM
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Questioning the coaches is one thing.

Questioning them based on your own lack of knowledge is something you should expect to get called out on. Nice that you can't respond to such criticism without making an insult. You don't think they know plenty about Teske after just working with him at their camp?

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June 15th, 2014 at 7:41 PM
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If you feel

insulted by anything I've said, I apologize, but I think you've taken any disrespect towards you too seriously.  We're arguing over a 16 year old basketball player of varying importance.  I feel no need to get upset over that kind of thing.  Any tone you've sensed from me is just a mirror of what you've said to me.

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June 15th, 2014 at 6:58 PM
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I can copy and paste too

Although it probably means he's due to blow up now. Isn't that how things work when Beilein extends an offer?

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June 15th, 2014 at 5:36 PM
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Yep

Yep

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June 15th, 2014 at 7:03 PM
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According to this 247 Sports story

Link

Teske is a great defensive player and he admits he needs to get in the weight room and work on his strength. If only we had a good strength and condiioning program. /s

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:03 PM
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Swanigan,Murray and Goodin.

Swanigan,Murray and Goodin. Josh Langford needs to come to visit ASAP. 

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:29 PM
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All worthy of offers

Right here right now I would be surprised if Swanigan committed to us over MSU by a lot, considering his teammate Davis has committed in the 2015 class to the Spartans (they could have a really scary frontcourt in 2016-17 if that were the case).  Not optimistic the interest in langford is mutual enough to get my hopes up at this point.  The other prospects have at least visited.

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:36 PM
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The offer should still go

The offer should still go out. Langford wants to come in the fall. He has been injured but the interest is real. 

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:42 PM
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If a prospect has not visited yet

then no offer.  It's a pretty clear aspect of Beilein's policy. In some ways, I agree with that aspect of it from a strategy perspective.  Saying you will come visit is different than visiting.  It shows you already have expressed interest and the staff knows their time isn't wasted when there may be other high profile prospects who have more interest.

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:48 PM
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Which is why I said "Josh

Which is why I said "Josh Langford needs to come to visit ASAP. "

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:54 PM
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No complaints from me

If he wants to visit, lets get him in here ASAP and start pressuring him to commit.  I just don't want to be hoping he will visit for a couple months to find out he has changd his plans later.

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:05 PM
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Murray has yet to visit, I believe.

He's planning one soon and I expect he'll get an offer while he's here.

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:09 PM
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He visited for the IU game

He visited for the IU game and banner raising. Just needs the academic portion. 

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June 15th, 2014 at 7:18 PM
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Sam Webb said that according

Sam Webb said that according his site's research, Michigan is the only school that Murray has visited—just an additional data point.

Also worth noting are upcoming visits from the offerees. Cassius Winston will visit Michigan next weekend; not sure of others as the source below is a premium article.

2016 G Cassius Winston will visit #Michigan next weekend. Probably won't be the only offered prospect there (VIP): http://t.co/Lxu3LkY5Oh

— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) June 15, 2014

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June 15th, 2014 at 4:00 PM
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Teske is perfect. A 4 year

Teske is perfect. A 4 year bigman who can develop behind Donnal/Doyle/Wilson 2-3 years.

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June 15th, 2014 at 7:24 PM
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2 years

This is Michigan hoops man, we'll be lucky if we get two years out of him. NBA machine.

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June 15th, 2014 at 7:39 PM
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He is a bigman. We usually

He is a bigman. We usually get 4 years out of them.

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June 15th, 2014 at 10:51 PM
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Unless they're Mitch McGary.

Unless they're Mitch McGary.

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June 16th, 2014 at 11:59 AM
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Too soon

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June 16th, 2014 at 12:06 PM
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Who was forced out. 

Who was forced out. 

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June 15th, 2014 at 6:17 PM
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Reports coming in

That top 50 PG prospect Quentin Goodin has also been offered.  3 PG offers in one day is a clear message (to me) they are A) not expecting Jalen Brunson to commit and B) they want an early PG commit to build the 2016 class around.

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June 15th, 2014 at 9:16 PM
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Kentucky will offer Thornton

Kentucky will offer Thornton on his visit in the next week or two. Thornton's father says "I love Cal"; says Calipari's been recruiting Thornton since 8th grade. Battle is visiting Kentucky (and Louisville) this week.

Michigan, Oklahoma Offer Thornton; Kentucky Will Offer http://t.co/rz3gPTaJ6n @DerryckThornton

— Adam Zagoria (@AdamZagoria) June 16, 2014

 

Tyus Battle is at Louisville Today/Monday & Kentucky Monday/Tues. Cal also called him today http://t.co/uJrW4Ux6ET

— Adam Zagoria (@AdamZagoria) June 16, 2014

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